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Ultima66 posted:Real talk if I get banned for flask macro I get banned and stop playing the game. I don't feel comfortable playing without it and I want to make videos once in a while so I'm not interested in changing anything. Tbh it shouldn't even be a bannable offense and everyone on that sub knows it but lol reddit gonna reddit.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:35
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MMF Freeway posted:Tbh it shouldn't even be a bannable offense and everyone on that sub knows it but lol reddit gonna reddit. I'd pay to have them make "auto-injecting" on low life/mana into a rollable prefix on flasks. Instead I gotta be a potion outlaw.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:11
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What is your flask macro? I'm asking for a friend.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:13
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I really wish they allowed flask macros or built something like that into the game. I can't play Pathfinder builds because I can feel an RSI coming from constantly pressing the 1-5 keys. nightwisher posted:Here's my PoB for my magma orb inquisitor. I'm also NerfMeChrisNerfMeHard in the guild. Thanks for the writeup. This is really helpful! I have an Indigon and a Zerphi's and trying to figure out what to do with both.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:16
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Attorney at Funk posted:What is your flask macro? I'm asking for a friend. I have a fancy mouse with a side button grid and just map my flasks to the side buttons on my mouse. The reason it was getting hit in the video is because I tapped the button with my thumb while moving the mouse because I also have my push to talk for recording on my mouse.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:20
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How is that a flask macro at all?
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Apr 10, 2018 19:21
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Attorney at Funk posted:What is your flask macro? I'm asking for a friend. I'm still using the one built into PoeHud since that's the only auto-flask-chug that works anymore. I'm supposed to mention that it can get you banned (there was a PoeHud banwave a while back) but it's been fine for two leagues and I can only play the game one-handed are this point from my RSI.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:23
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Mr. Despair posted:How is that a flask macro at all? It isn't, lol Edit: you could say he got zizzed on
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Apr 10, 2018 19:23
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Mr. Despair posted:How is that a flask macro at all? Because I have more than 1 flask bound to a single mouse button and GGG says that's illegal.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:24
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Oh gotcha, I thought you just had 5+ buttons that you were using.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:26
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Ultima66 posted:Because I have more than 1 flask bound to a single mouse button and GGG says that's illegal. Oh, yeah it's Axiom for you then
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Apr 10, 2018 19:26
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Cinara posted:+2 Minion Gems does almost nothing for Raise Spectres. Assuming you are at least gem level 19 already, their max level is 100 and so will be determined by the zone level they were raised in, so more levels on the gem will just be a couple % damage boost each level. All other summons(Skeletons, Zombies, Golems, ect) are determined by the level of the gem, so a helm with +levels will make a large difference. I had an amazing run of luck last night. After going the first month of the league with basically no drops of value, in the span of five or six yellow maps I found two exalts, a Kaom's Heart, and a Poet's Pen. The RNG is a fickle mistress. I'm not really sure what to do with my newfound wealth. A 6L Vis Mortis is about 6ex, but I don't know that one extra support slot is worth it. I might just bankroll a new character.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:26
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Mr. Despair posted:Oh gotcha, I thought you just had 5+ buttons that you were using. No you see, if there's a mini number pad and he mashed his fat thumb and hits them all that's fine, if a single button achieves the same result that's a lifetime ban. Now they need to release a series of keyboards where one of the keys is 5 tiny keys grouped together. Wait, I got it, one of those separate wireless numberpads for Excel, and strap it to a Rock Band kick pedal so you can stomp and drink all the potions with your foot.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:33
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Yeah, I agree, pressing keys is too hard.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:39
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WhiteHowler posted:Thanks, good to know. I've moved my Raise Spectre to the Vis Mortis and will run either zombies or animate guardian in the +2 minion gem helm. I was able to snag an uncorrupted 6L Vis for only 4.5 ex the other night so keep an eye out for a good deal!
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Apr 10, 2018 19:43
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I will keep using my 12345 AHK macro for as long as the game is designed around flasks that have 100% uptime and no strategy to when I use them. Also holy crap, HH has always been fun but Mirage Archer takes it to a whole new level. Nothing else can leverage the absurd levels of attack speed you get from HH like a Mirage Archer spraying arrows everywhere as you just run around. Cinara fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Apr 10, 2018 19:43
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Tape a popsicle stick across your number keys
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Apr 10, 2018 20:06
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Mr. Despair posted:Yeah, I agree, pressing keys is too hard. While this response might work for people talking about Pathfinder uptime, it's a pretty loving lovely response to someone with an RSI
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Apr 10, 2018 20:35
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pork never goes bad posted:While this response might work for people talking about Pathfinder uptime, it's a pretty loving lovely response to someone with an RSI I have massive RSI, and clicking flasks doesn't even register. Looting is probably the poo poo that hurts the most. Give me a currency vacuum if you want to combat RSI. Shift-attacking did hurt a lot, but numlock fixed that (and they are implementing an ingame function for it soonTM)
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Apr 10, 2018 21:12
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TheRat posted:I have massive RSI, and clicking flasks doesn't even register. Looting is probably the poo poo that hurts the most. Give me a currency vacuum if you want to combat RSI. Shift-attacking did hurt a lot, but numlock fixed that (and they are implementing an ingame function for it soonTM) I can't even hold down the mouse button for PPVD constantly, I switch hands and have Frenzy bound to the spacebar so I can rest my off-hand there. I wonder if VR gaze-tracking when it comes out could be accurate enough to control a mouse for games like this?
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Apr 10, 2018 21:20
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pork never goes bad posted:While this response might work for people talking about Pathfinder uptime, it's a pretty loving lovely response to someone with an RSI I liken it more to someone wanting to use an aimbot because moving the mouse hurts to much. There are streamers who do more drastic stuff to deal with their rsi (seafarion plays with a controller, for example) without resorting to macros and the like. Maybe I'm the terrible lovely rear end in a top hat here (beyond my general shittyness at least), but I feel like there are ways to deal with this that don't involve violating the ToS, and if you physically can't press some keys on a keyboard because you're RSI is just that bad, then maybe you shouldn't be playing a game that's so drat bad for your health.
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Apr 10, 2018 21:22
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Mr. Despair posted:I liken it more to someone wanting to use an aimbot because moving the mouse hurts to much. Auto flasks... maybe. But one button that hits 5 buttons? Come on.
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Apr 10, 2018 21:26
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Lol I do it acknowledging I might get banned and my opinion is that this argument isn't going to lead to GGG changing their policy whether or not they eventually change the policy so I don't really give a poo poo about actually arguing whether it's a good policy or not.
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Apr 10, 2018 21:35
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Cinara posted:Auto flasks... maybe. But one button that hits 5 buttons? Come on. Sure but the guy outright said he's using Poehud which has autoflask among other cheating stuff.
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Apr 10, 2018 22:16
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Bricked an Uber Atziri set because I was too busy trying to not get gibbed by reflect. DD doesn't do enough damage to quickly push her phases either. Oh well. I'll just nab credit from someone eventually.
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Apr 10, 2018 22:30
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Tape a popsicle stick across your number keys If they could prove it they would ban for this also. Not joking.
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Apr 10, 2018 22:37
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Would be nice if GGG was willing to work with people suffering from RSI and make their game more physically accessible. They should get in touch with HalfCo or something.
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Apr 10, 2018 22:40
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GGG's stance on macros that activate multiple flasks with 1 button is completely asinine and I just wish they'd support that functionality on the in-game keybindings menu.
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Apr 10, 2018 22:47
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Kild posted:Sure but the guy outright said he's using Poehud which has autoflask among other cheating stuff. These are two different people in this thread.
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Apr 10, 2018 23:07
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George posted:Would be nice if GGG was willing to work with people suffering from RSI and make their game more physically accessible. They should get in touch with HalfCo or something. GGG doesn't even bother to put in a colorblind mode. I wouldn't hold my breath about anything accessibility wise.
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Apr 10, 2018 23:20
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pork never goes bad posted:These are two different people in this thread. Please point them out because this is the only one I know about Zero VGS posted:I'm still using the one built into PoeHud since that's the only auto-flask-chug that works anymore. I'm supposed to mention that it can get you banned (there was a PoeHud banwave a while back) but it's been fine for two leagues and I can only play the game one-handed are this point from my RSI.
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Apr 10, 2018 23:28
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this is why you have your flask macro staggered a tiny bit
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Apr 10, 2018 23:29
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Kild posted:Please point them out because this is the only one I know about this conversation got started because ultima posted a video where he clearly flask macros
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Apr 10, 2018 23:30
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Mr. Despair posted:I liken it more to someone wanting to use an aimbot because moving the mouse hurts to much. I've made very elaborate Xbox profiles in Xpadder to play this game, let's just say it is not easy. Just to rub it in they have the Xbox One version and won't port the controls from that to PC (like I can understand some skills work different, but for Christ sakes at least let me use the analog stick to move instead of the janky mouse emulation I gotta do). I totally understand if you don't like me. I hate cheaters in games, but I justify my autoflasks by: a) I wouldn't play the game at all if I didn't resort to this stuff to make it ergo enough b) I don't really care if I'm banned c) I'm in no way competitive, you're not running up against me in some ladder and I've never played PvP. All I really do in the game is run other goons through my bonus maps all night since I'm such a nice guy. d) GGG has no dialog open with regards to accessibility at all, I searched their forums and it's multiyear-threads with no responses e) I support the game, and besides, GGG hired a (former?) PoE RMT guy which takes them down a few pegs from the moral high ground f) As we saw, there's some pretty brazen botting operations going on in the game and it doesn't seem like there's any heuristics to catch them, unless they do something dumb like make their profiles public So yeah I know I'm being kinda naughty but it is what it is. Awesome! posted:this conversation got started because ultima posted a video where he clearly flask macros Right, he is using one button to type multiple numbers at once, I'm like pot smoking and he's like jay walking on the ToS Illegality Scale.
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Apr 10, 2018 23:44
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Awesome! posted:this conversation got started because ultima posted a video where he clearly flask macros and where did I or the guy I originally quoted (well the guy who was quoted by the guy I quoted) talk about Ultima? lol
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Apr 10, 2018 23:46
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The PoE RMT guy was hired to dismantle the RMT markets as much as they can. I have no idea if they were successful or not, but that's the official answer.
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Apr 10, 2018 23:48
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Kild posted:and where did I or the guy I originally quoted (well the guy who was quoted by the guy I quoted) talk about Ultima? lol Cinara posted:Auto flasks... maybe. But one button that hits 5 buttons? Come on. you quoted and responded to this. cinara is talking about what ultima is doing with the "one button that hits 5 buttons" thing
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Apr 11, 2018 00:07
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also i really dont want to get dragged into whatever retarded argument you are having about it
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Apr 11, 2018 00:08
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Zero VGS posted:I've made very elaborate Xbox profiles in Xpadder to play this game, let's just say it is not easy. Just to rub it in they have the Xbox One version and won't port the controls from that to PC (like I can understand some skills work different, but for Christ sakes at least let me use the analog stick to move instead of the janky mouse emulation I gotta do). Why do you need Poe hud a known cheat program to use auto flasks? Use ahk , your mouse/keyboard software to do your flask macro and you’ll never get banned or looked upon as a dirty cheater.
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Apr 11, 2018 00:11
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I was just typing up a long forensic reply to Kild when I realized that this conversation is making me act like an rear end in a top hat. Or, perhaps, taking some more responsibility, I'm acting like an rear end in a top hat in this conversation. Sorry for the "pretty lovely" hyperbole, Mr D. Personally, I hate flask management so play builds that don't rely as much on them. It's a major reason why I never played Pathfinder. I just ordered a Razer mouse with side number pad so we'll see if that makes it better. I also dislike middle-mouse-clicking for skills and hope it helps with that. I don't know what I think about auto-flasks (probably that it isn't right but Zero VGS's reasons sound reasonable and idk how to draw lines here), but I don't think binding 3 buttons to one button should be a problem and am disappointed that it is. I am also disappointed in GGG's low attention paid to accessibility. But none of these feelings are really strong, and certainly not strong enough to justify being a jerk.
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Apr 11, 2018 00:12
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