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panascope posted:Yeah I love the British tourists in Inferno. What's with the "Tourists in Inferno" thing? I've seen it elsewhere but I have no idea what it refers to. 
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Apr 12, 2018 01:04
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Schadenboner posted:What's with the "Tourists in Inferno" thing? I've seen it elsewhere but I have no idea what it refers to. Forge World used someone’s holiday pictures for the pyramids of Tzica in the background art and failed to completely photoshop everyone out, there is a guy standing around in shorts. Also they reference weapons that don’t exist and accidentally printed beta rules for one unit. The book has a lot of issues..
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Apr 12, 2018 01:17
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Schadenboner posted:What's with the "Tourists in Inferno" thing? I've seen it elsewhere but I have no idea what it refers to. Forgeworld wanted to include the most alien thing imaginable so they included some people who actually want to visit England in some of the pictures in Inferno. E: Huh, I guess I remembered that wrong Pendent fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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Apr 12, 2018 01:17
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Schadenboner posted:What's with the "Tourists in Inferno" thing? I've seen it elsewhere but I have no idea what it refers to.  Pages 44 & 45 have tourists lol
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Apr 12, 2018 01:18
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Apr 12, 2018 01:19
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Was it at least photos from someone in the company's vacation, or did they really go the distance for their bespoke artisanal miniatures and google Pyramids
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Apr 12, 2018 01:22
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Inferno is a trash fire of a book.
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Apr 12, 2018 01:23
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BULBASAUR posted:Two Beans my dude, cum play 30k. Enjoy having the most broken legion army. Make people shake with rage whenever you whisper 'space wolves are bad' At least fluffwise Space Wolves are pretty clearly the closest legion on the loyalist side to being Bad Guys in 30k
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Apr 12, 2018 01:33
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Neurolimal posted:At least fluffwise Space Wolves are pretty clearly the closest legion on the loyalist side to being Bad Guys in 30k I think you'll find that all of the loyalists are the bad guys 
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Apr 12, 2018 01:35
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So, uh, holy poo poo, T'au Sept is better than I was giving it credit for. Preparing to get charged, and doing so in such a way that you can loving murder the first thing that tries is really satisfying, and worked much better than getting 18" rapid fire range.
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Apr 12, 2018 01:37
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TTerrible posted:People always focus on the cost of the books when the armies start at 2500pts and one of the units isn't useable until games of 13k pts 
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Apr 12, 2018 01:38
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Strobe posted:So, uh, holy poo poo, T'au Sept is better than I was giving it credit for. Preparing to get charged, and doing so in such a way that you can loving murder the first thing that tries is really satisfying, and worked much better than getting 18" rapid fire range. To be fair even before the codex Tau in 8th edition were all about demanding a virgin sacrifice before charges, they just happen to have other stuff going on as well now
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Apr 12, 2018 01:40
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Neurolimal posted:To be fair even before the codex Tau in 8th edition were all about demanding a virgin sacrifice before charges, they just happen to have other stuff going on as well now I managed to get three Pathfinder squads into mutually supporting overwatch range while still being in Rapid Fire. Turns out, 18 Rail Rifle shots hitting on 5s was enough to wipe out a 6-model AdMech Breacher team to a bot in one go. The two extra wounds from Pulse Carbines were just gravy.
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Apr 12, 2018 01:41
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PierreTheMime posted:Hmm, an interesting thought. Syncs up well with Kraken, I suppose I could use them as additional protection for my Malanthrope core. What am I missing about Malanthropes? They didn't seem too special on my first glance through the codex, so I assume there's something I missed.
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Apr 12, 2018 01:47
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Apr 12, 2018 01:51
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bird food bathtub posted:What am I missing about Malanthropes? They didn't seem too special on my first glance through the codex, so I assume there's something I missed. They’re nigh-unkillable unit buff machines that act as a Synapse source for your back line. Every unit within 3” becomes -1 to hit which really explodes your defense when your three units of 20-30 Termagants, Exocrines, and other less mobile units all gather ‘round. They’re not the best value for their price and are worth fuckall in combat but they make your army last a ton longer.
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Apr 12, 2018 01:57
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bird food bathtub posted:What am I missing about Malanthropes? They didn't seem too special on my first glance through the codex, so I assume there's something I missed. It's not in the codex, but the Forgeworld index. The one in the codex is the Maleceptor, who's claim to fame is killing 3 Custodes Shield Captains on Dawneagle Jetbikes on the top of turn one of game 1 of the Adepticon championship. The Custodes player sadquit the tournament and played Shadespire for the rest of the convention.
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Apr 12, 2018 02:11
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MasterSlowPoke posted:It's not in the codex, but the Forgeworld index. That's hilarious - but how did it pull that off?
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Apr 12, 2018 02:22
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MasterSlowPoke posted:It's not in the codex, but the Forgeworld index. Ah that's what I was thinking of, the Maleceptor. Trying to avoid ForgeWorld stuff. I don't even have a complete army from the codex itself yet. Read over the Maleceptor in the codex and yeah he looks like a pretty decent psyker but I wasn't super thrilled with him.
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Apr 12, 2018 02:41
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MasterSlowPoke posted:It's not in the codex, but the Forgeworld index. How on earth did they pull that off?
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Apr 12, 2018 02:50
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bird food bathtub posted:Ah that's what I was thinking of, the Maleceptor. Trying to avoid ForgeWorld stuff. I don't even have a complete army from the codex itself yet. Read over the Maleceptor in the codex and yeah he looks like a pretty decent psyker but I wasn't super thrilled with him. Naramyths ex roommate swears by the drat things. I've never had much luck with them.
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Apr 12, 2018 02:58
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Boon posted:That's hilarious - but how did it pull that off? Nid player double moved the Maleceptor into psychic range of all three Captains. He did his psychic bomb thing, dealing a single wound to each Captain, leaving them on 6 wounds each. The three Captains heroically intervened into the Maleceptor and flubbed all their rolls, barely hurting the Maleceptor. It countered with its 4 attacks, 2 into the warlord and 1 into each other Captain. All hit, all wounded, all failed saves, then rolled a six for damage against each Captain. .
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Apr 12, 2018 03:17
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Pendent posted:My experience is that the Bolt Rifle hits a sweet spot. That was my first impression. Artum posted:Just stick with rapid fire, if you want assault then go for carbine reivers since they're the same with extra abilities for cheaper and if you want a unit to camp objectives you'd be better served with a load of scouts. Nice, I really like the Reivers. I just gotta improve my face painting...
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Apr 12, 2018 03:20
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Nid player double moved the Maleceptor into psychic range of all three Captains. He did his psychic bomb thing, dealing a single wound to each Captain, leaving them on 6 wounds each. The three Captains heroically intervened into the Maleceptor and flubbed all their rolls, barely hurting the Maleceptor. It countered with its 4 attacks, 2 into the warlord and 1 into each other Captain. All hit, all wounded, all failed saves, then rolled a six for damage against each Captain. . All of this is the best thing.
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Apr 12, 2018 03:20
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TheBigAristotle posted:That was my first impression. I absolutely adore carbine Reivers in addition to my rapid fire Intercessors, for what it's worth. Deep striking Primaris are really good, as it turns out.
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Apr 12, 2018 03:24
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*Beep Boop here I am to murder you* One day build, prime & paint for my Adeptus Mechanicus Eversor Assassin.     Close up of the poison. Really happy with how it turned out.  
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Apr 12, 2018 03:26
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Nid player double moved the Maleceptor into psychic range of all three Captains. He did his psychic bomb thing, dealing a single wound to each Captain, leaving them on 6 wounds each. The three Captains heroically intervened into the Maleceptor and flubbed all their rolls, barely hurting the Maleceptor. It countered with its 4 attacks, 2 into the warlord and 1 into each other Captain. All hit, all wounded, all failed saves, then rolled a six for damage against each Captain. .  Holy poo poo. That's unlikely as all hell and it rules.
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Apr 12, 2018 03:27
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Had a really fun game against a fluffy Imperial Fists list, gorgeously painted. Didn't have my camera with me and my phone is poo poo so didn't get any shots. I got stomped. Was rolling my crimson fists list I'm still working on, had pedro, lt, primaris lt, 2x5 intercessors, sniper scouts, 2x5 hellblasters, 5 vanguard, 5 sternguard, 5 intercessors, LC devastators, LC razorback, vindicator, contemptor He had 2 batt detachments. Lysander, Techmarine, Lt, Captain, 2 devastator squads (2x LC 2x HB), 4 tac marine squads (5 man with heavy bolter), 2 scout squads, 4 predators (autocannons and HBs), 5 cataphractii He got first turn, and there wasn't enough LOS blocking terrain so he used killshot and deleted my contemptor and vindicator at the start, and also shot up a lot of my primaris dudes with the autocannons. Killshot + storm of fire is so good, between the 3 killshot predators there was 18 heavy bolter shots wounding tanks on 4s for 2 damage a pop and 6s to wound were AP-2. The captain took the chapter master stratagem so lots of rerolls for the preds too. I dropped the inceptors and vanguard downfield and killed most of the devastators with assault bolter fire, vanguard failed their charge. He charged the scouts in to try to tie my dudes up but didn't realize pedro gave everyone +1A so 5 man primaris squads were getting 16 attacks rerolling misses. I killed one predator and dropped the second to 2 wounds with my return fire, but the predators hammered me every turn and I just didn't bring enough AT to deal with them. Massed autocannon and HB fire wiped out my inceptors pretty quick. Also I hadn't played with my primaris in 5 months and forgot the hellblasters had a 30 inch range, whoops. Would've probably killed the second predator if I had overcharged into it but thought it was out of range. He blew up the razorback turn 2, the sternguard and Lt inside piled out of it and they hosed up a pretty good amount of tac marines between them, Lt had fist of vengeance and sternguard sgt had a power fist and they went to town. His cataphractii and lysander dropped in the middle, cataphractii passed a charge on the vanguard and killed them but then Pedro and my primaris LT charged in and killed the squad, then went after Lysander next turn but he passed most of his stormshield saves and over the next round and a half killed pedro and the lt with 1 wound left. He ended up tabling me turn 4, it was a fun game but my crimson fists list can't handle a gunline it looks like. My crimson fists is an okay generalist list. My idea being that (once I finish the list by adding another dread and aggressors, dropping the vindicator and sternguard) I can either push up with primaris dudes and pedro to punch things, or hang back with pedro rerolling my guns if I need to. It's fun for a casual game but will get rolled by armies that specialize in one or the other. chutche2 fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Apr 12, 2018 |
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Apr 12, 2018 03:28
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So I played a game against an AdMech opponent yesterday night, and even though we only got to the bottom of Turn 2 it was pretty securely in my favor. That said, it did point out some serious weaknesses in my list. Namely, insufficient Markerlights, at 'only' 21 for a 2k list, and situated entirely on Pathfinders. Squishy. Both of my Broadsides died top of turn 1, so they didn't get to do a drat thing, and I think I can more efficiently use the points for at least one of them on a bunch of Markerlights. Pathfinders are far and away the highest priority targets for my opponents to shoot, so Markerlight Drones are next on the plate. Updated list: T'au Sept Battalion (+3 CP) HQ: Cadre Fireblade Ethereal w/Hover Drone Troops: 10x Fire Warriors 10x Fire Warriors 10x Fire Warriors Fast Attack: 10x Pathfinders w/3 Rail Rifles 10x Pathfinders w/3 Rail Rifles 10x Pathfinders w/3 Rail Rifles T'au Sept Battalion (+3 CP) HQ: Cadre Fireblade XV8 Commander w/Drone Controller and Stimulant Injector (Buffmander II: Son of Buffmander) Troops: 10x Fire Warriors 10x Fire Warriors 10x Fire Warriors Fast Attack: 4x Markerlight Drones 4x Markerlight Drones 4x Markerlight Drones T'au Sept Vanguard (+1 CP) HQ: Coldstar Commander w/4 Fusion Blasters Elites: 3x Stealth Suits w/1 Fusion Blaster Riptide w/Heavy Burst Cannon, Smart Missile Systems, ATS, and Velocity Tracker Ghostkeel w/Ion Raker, Burst Cannons, ATS, and Shield Generator Heavy Support: Broadside w/Heavy Rail Rifle and Smart Missile Systems - 2x Shield Drones With twenty-one drops I'm expecting to have to expect to take the second turn more often than not. I can potentially reduce the number of drops by condensing the ML Drones into one group of 12, but that'd leave them more vulnerable to massed fire. On the other hand, it'd also make it easier to keep them in drone controller range of the XV8, and they give me an emergency objective taking deep strike opportunity if my opponent misplays turn 1. That's probably not something to assume, but it might be something I can look for. What does the thread think? I'm leaning toward multiple units.
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Apr 12, 2018 03:31
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Nid player double moved the Maleceptor into psychic range of all three Captains. He did his psychic bomb thing, dealing a single wound to each Captain, leaving them on 6 wounds each. The three Captains heroically intervened into the Maleceptor and flubbed all their rolls, barely hurting the Maleceptor. It countered with its 4 attacks, 2 into the warlord and 1 into each other Captain. All hit, all wounded, all failed saves, then rolled a six for damage against each Captain. . But a Maleceptor only has 3 attacks?
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Apr 12, 2018 03:42
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Nid player double moved the Maleceptor into psychic range of all three Captains. He did his psychic bomb thing, dealing a single wound to each Captain, leaving them on 6 wounds each. The three Captains heroically intervened into the Maleceptor and flubbed all their rolls, barely hurting the Maleceptor. It countered with its 4 attacks, 2 into the warlord and 1 into each other Captain. All hit, all wounded, all failed saves, then rolled a six for damage against each Captain. . I'm confused. I don't think you can target characters that intervene because you won't have declared them as a charge target? Unless he did just in case I guess? I never thought of that situation before.
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General Olloth posted:I'm confused. I don't think you can target characters that intervene because you won't have declared them as a charge target? Unless he did just in case I guess? I never thought of that situation before. You can HI into anything within 3" of a character as long as a charge happens anywhere else on the board. So presumably the Nid player did charges elsewhere but not with the Maleceptor and the Custodes guy HIed into it, thinking he'd get an easy kill. Since the Maleceptor didn't charge it can attack anything within 1" as normal - the restriction is only on units which charged in the previous Charge phase.
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Apr 12, 2018 07:18
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Zuul the Cat posted:*Beep Boop here I am to murder you* That rules
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Has anyone played around with the Forgeworld Imperial Knights? The Acheron seems good, but the rest all seem pretty meh (not that regular knights aren't  )
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Apr 12, 2018 07:26
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Do you guys have anywhere stateside that you prefer to get reasonably priced terrain from?
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Apr 12, 2018 07:35
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What kind ? Pegasus makes some cheap high quality stuffNeurolimal posted:At least fluffwise Space Wolves are pretty clearly the closest legion on the loyalist side to being Bad Guys in 30k Dark Angles
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You sure last I heard Space Wolves were considered to be pretty friendly.
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Apr 12, 2018 08:00
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They're so loyal that Malcador sent squads of them to watch over all the other legions. The only argument you could make against them really is the fact that they razed Prospero under the false assumption that it was an order from the Emperor that even fooled Valdor, the closest guy to him other than Malcador. So, no, they aren't pretty clearly the closest to Bad Guys of the loyalists.
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Hustlin Floh posted:They're so loyal that Malcador sent squads of them to watch over all the other legions. The only argument you could make against them really is the fact that they razed Prospero under the false assumption that it was an order from the Emperor that even fooled Valdor, the closest guy to him other than Malcador. So, no, they aren't pretty clearly the closest to Bad Guys of the loyalists. Plus all but one of those Marines are long dead by this point.
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