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Incy posted:You say that but there is the flying boring blob and the not heavy support myrmidons there so maybe he was being sarcastic? Imagine being this wrong.
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Awesome! Thanks for all the tips. I'm really taken with the model line, it's pretty dang great. I'll order the army list book and start having a tinker with different lists. I didn't realise the hoplites were useful outside of Titan protection, but having a look at their rules they seem great, which is awesome, because their models are very cool.
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Don’t forget Peltasts, they’re ridiculous in Zone Mortalis.
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Peltasts seem generally broken in 7E because of their stacking shields and whatever. They'll shoot you to gently caress but won't be shot back. Thallax > ursurax and non-heavy Myrmidons have spindly nerd arms
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I am just astounded that the vultarax is considered good and not the worst model in an otherwise great range. It is just so boring and characterless, particularly when compared to the other cortex models.
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Apr 12, 2018 08:56
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Incy posted:I am just astounded that the vultarax is considered good and not the worst model in an otherwise great range. It is just so boring and characterless, particularly when compared to the other cortex models. It's a giant bumblebee, fluttering about awkwardly and bumping into things. If one of those things is a vehicle the bumblebee goes "boop! lol!" and the vehicle disappears. It owns in looks and performance.
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Incy posted:I am just astounded that the vultarax is considered good and not the worst model in an otherwise great range. It is just so boring and characterless, particularly when compared to the other cortex models. You’re boring and characterless. You don’t even have an avatar 
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Apr 12, 2018 10:49
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Speaking of boring and characterless: I'm trucking on with this Tactical Squad 
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Incy posted:I am just astounded that the vultarax is considered good and not the worst model in an otherwise great range. It is just so boring and characterless, particularly when compared to the other cortex models. It is kind of a dumb shape but for me at least 50% of its appeal is because it's a retroactively designed pre-corruption version of this; 
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TTerrible posted:It is kind of a dumb shape but for me at least 50% of its appeal is because it's a retroactively designed pre-corruption version of this; And FW has said one of their projects for a future book is making a pre-corruption version of the Brass Scorpion.
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Apr 12, 2018 15:06
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Apr 12, 2018 15:07
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Pre-heresy versions of Dark Mechanicum stuff is fun and good, I like the archaeological-feel of it. Even better if it becomes AdMech "Relic" vehicles in 40k.
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Cythereal posted:And FW has said one of their projects for a future book is making a pre-corruption version of the Brass Scorpion. that'll be interesting, I guess. There isn't a ton of extra chaos stuff going on in the Brass Scorpion to begin with, so I'm not sure where they can go with it. Though I liked the idea of Chaos having its own new stuff in 40k coming out of daemon forges instead of it all just being corrupted 30k poo poo. What's the point of fluff talking about how the dark mechanicus are free to do all kinds of forbidden poo poo if you're just going to retcon all their new stuff to be evil versions of old poo poo?
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TheChirurgeon posted:There isn't a ton of extra chaos stuff going on in the Brass Scorpion to begin with, so I'm not sure where they can go with it. Have you seen the model close up?  TheChirurgeon posted:Though I liked the idea of Chaos having its own new stuff in 40k coming out of daemon forges instead of it all just being corrupted 30k poo poo. What's the point of fluff talking about how the dark mechanicus are free to do all kinds of forbidden poo poo if you're just going to retcon all their new stuff to be evil versions of old poo poo? It's very unlikely the're going to do this for all the dumb gi joe dinosaur poo poo in 40k. Heldrakes are warp mutated hellblades/helltalons so that's already done.
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Endman posted:Speaking of boring and characterless: Very nice...
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TheChirurgeon posted:Though I liked the idea of Chaos having its own new stuff in 40k coming out of daemon forges instead of it all just being corrupted 30k poo poo. What's the point of fluff talking about how the dark mechanicus are free to do all kinds of forbidden poo poo if you're just going to retcon all their new stuff to be evil versions of old poo poo? I always assumed  ?
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Endman posted:Speaking of boring and characterless: This got lost in demonbot chat but these are cool. Darker blue is nice to see on UM.
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TheChirurgeon posted:that'll be interesting, I guess. There isn't a ton of extra chaos stuff going on in the Brass Scorpion to begin with, so I'm not sure where they can go with it. It's literally full of corpses though! But yes, I totally get what you're saying.
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TheChirurgeon posted:that'll be interesting, I guess. There isn't a ton of extra chaos stuff going on in the Brass Scorpion to begin with, so I'm not sure where they can go with it. We already got some insight into what the 30k Dark Mechanicum will be about. Daemon engines will start making their first appearances, but in a very "prototype" format. At that point the Dark Mechanicum doesn't know what a 'Khorn' or a 'Slaanesh' is, it's just a bunch of oogie boogies to catch and put into a reactor. So expect a lot of weird machines in the vein of the Arlatax: creations from one forge world or another that didn't necesserily catch on for various reasons, on top of early non-corrupted 40k machines.
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One design detail I love with 30k mechanicum are the canister shaped reactors on the back of things. In 40k they show up on daemon engines and the decimator, covered in runes and chains. That particular design must have been lost by the loyalists in 40k..
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TTerrible posted:Have you seen the model close up? Yeah. It's a very nice model, but aesthetically it's pretty clean, with some extra chainsaws and blades here and there. The Brass trim is appropriately chaos, but isn't exactly out of place on larger admech models, where similar motifs show up on knight armor. I'm not sure how they keep it a scorpion and have it be different enough to justify a whole new sculpt, but they may surprise me quote:It's very unlikely the're going to do this for all the dumb gi joe dinosaur poo poo in 40k. Given how obviously GW/FW have become a kind of ouroboros with regard to older material and concept art, it's more a matter of time than likelihood e: TTerrible posted:One design detail I love with 30k mechanicum are the canister shaped reactors on the back of things. In 40k they show up on daemon engines and the decimator, covered in runes and chains. That particular design must have been lost by the loyalists in 40k.. Yeah, that's cool as poo poo, especially on the Decimator. Though I think the Defiler might have been the first model to do something like that?
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Probably gonna have silly protodefilers and stuff. Maybe babby soulgrinders?
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JcDent posted:Probably gonna have silly protodefilers and stuff. Maybe babby soulgrinders? Scoria's abeyant is basically a proto-defiler.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Yeah. It's a very nice model, but aesthetically it's pretty clean, with some extra chainsaws and blades here and there. The Brass trim is appropriately chaos, but isn't exactly out of place on larger admech models, where similar motifs show up on knight armor. I'm not sure how they keep it a scorpion and have it be different enough to justify a whole new sculpt, but they may surprise me There are screaming faces and grasping hands coming out of its pulsating fibre bundle body It's an absolutely amazing model. TheChirurgeon posted:Given how obviously GW/FW have become a kind of ouroboros with regard to older material and concept art, it's more a matter of time than likelihood I think the dino bots ( i really can't remember the name of the unit) are safe as they're daemon by design rather than shoving some spooky in a reactor like Mango said. Hellbrutes too are a new thing in the 40k fluff. I think they're safe. We'll see, I hope FW shoot off into the early dark mechanicum stuff waay before they even think about that. TheChirurgeon posted:Yeah, that's cool as poo poo, especially on the Decimator. Though I think the Defiler might have been the first model to do something like that? I can't remember if there is one on the defiler or not. The first time I noticed it was on the Decimator and then it started popping up on everything in 30k like the Myrmidons.
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TTerrible posted:There are screaming faces and grasping hands coming out of its pulsating fibre bundle body I agree, but those don't read/register from a distance, and don't strike me as important enough design-wise that if you made a loyalist version without them you'd notice unless you got in real close. Compared to the blight drones that have big pulsating sacks of whatever hanging off of them with fleshy tails and corroded shells, making it visually obvious that there's a corruption of an older design going on. By contrast, the scorpion's chaos stuff is cool, and the model's very detailed, but if you cleaned it up the same way, the bits would feel like add-ons. quote:I think the dino bots ( i really can't remember the name of the unit) are safe as they're daemon by design rather than shoving some spooky in a reactor like Mango said. Hellbrutes too are a new thing in the 40k fluff. I think they're safe. We'll see, I hope FW shoot off into the early dark mechanicum stuff waay before they even think about that. There's a hatch on the back of the defiler that has a daemon face coming out of it, which is where the daemon is sealed into the machine, plus a hatch on the back legs section that has a similar plug where you can put on the chained hatch lid. So yeah, it's definitely got them. I'm just not sure if that was the first one. It was pretty early though, so it wouldn't surprise me if it was, I hope you're right about the daemon designs, and I hope we see more stuff to differentiate 40k chaos designs from 30k designs. Helbrutes are "safe" because they're already dreadnoughts, and Forgeworld decided to stop making its sweet 40k dreadnoughts like a bunch of stupid assholes. Ah well, at least I got mine while the gettin was good, unlike the Night Lords land raider doors *sigh*
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I thought Hellbrutes are just a retcon on CSM dreads, with GW pretending they were there all along.
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TTerrible posted:Hellbrutes too are a new thing in the 40k fluff. I think they're safe. We'll see, I hope FW shoot off into the early dark mechanicum stuff waay before they even think about that. I suspect the Word Bearers' tainted dreadnought is meant to be a nod to that.
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The Maro Lago is a lot different, seeing how it's one of the OG possessed fused with a shattered contemptor.
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Man I have one of those sitting around still waiting to get scrubbed and primed along with a bunch of Gal Vorbak. One day, word bearers, one day
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TheChirurgeon posted:I agree, but those don't read/register from a distance, and don't strike me as important enough design-wise that if you made a loyalist version without them you'd notice unless you got in real close. Compared to the blight drones that have big pulsating sacks of whatever hanging off of them with fleshy tails and corroded shells, making it visually obvious that there's a corruption of an older design going on. By contrast, the scorpion's chaos stuff is cool, and the model's very detailed, but if you cleaned it up the same way, the bits would feel like add-ons. They've just discontinued all the etched brass as well. They're such monumental idiot rear end in a top hat hell fuckers.
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TTerrible posted:Have you seen the model close up? TheChirurgeon posted:Yeah. It's a very nice model, but aesthetically it's pretty clean, with some extra chainsaws and blades here and there. The Brass trim is appropriately chaos, but isn't exactly out of place on larger admech models, where similar motifs show up on knight armor. I'm not sure how they keep it a scorpion and have it be different enough to justify a whole new sculpt, but they may surprise me So “no” then
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I finally found the loving sponson targetting sensors, never did find the cables though.   
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ijyt posted:I finally found the loving sponson targetting sensors, never did find the cables though. god drat that's one fine rear end sicaran
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quote:Come on down to template city where the dice are all hits and rules aren't lovely Tweak of a Hencoe quote. New thread title please.
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ijyt posted:I finally found the loving sponson targetting sensors, never did find the cables though. 
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TheChirurgeon posted:I hope you're right about the daemon designs, and I hope we see more stuff to differentiate 40k chaos designs from 30k designs. Helbrutes are "safe" because they're already dreadnoughts, and Forgeworld decided to stop making its sweet 40k dreadnoughts like a bunch of stupid assholes. Ah well, at least I got mine while the gettin was good, unlike the Night Lords land raider doors *sigh* Going by the killer bees example, I think we'll see some homage, but at the end of the day the designs do look really different. I agree with you though it will be cool to see distinct dark mech stuff that was developed after the heresy. Probably the dino robots and deflier. I am super pumped for a 30k brass scorpion. That'll be my capstone to my dark mech army.
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Have a toxic image
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please make the chad have 2 left hands tia
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:please make the chad have 2 left hands tia drat, you're right 
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 This is probably a wee bit overkill, but my tacticals should be able to moonlight as vets with most weapons. 
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