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Has anyone else had notifications completely stop working after updating? I'd been having intermittent problems with GCal's notifications for a while, but after this latest update my alarm just...didn't go off,and I don't have any notifications, sound or otherwise, from other apps.
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Notifications have been a bit odd over the past month or so on my Pixel 2 XL. My wife's as well.
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Apr 12, 2018 16:03
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Internet Explorer posted:Notifications have been a bit odd over the past month or so on my Pixel 2 XL. My wife's a well. Same, it's sporadic and random and weird.
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Apr 12, 2018 16:09
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Google Calendar notifications just suddenly not firing is an issue that's been around for years. I've had it happen on my Pixel 2 and on my last device.
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Apr 12, 2018 16:28
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SRL researchers Karsten Nohl and Jakob Lell spent two years analyzing Android devices, checking to see if the phones actually had installed the security patches that the software said it had. The pair found that many devices had what they call a “patch gap,” where the phone’s software would claim it was up to date with security patches but was, in reality, missing up to a dozen of the patches. The missed patches aren’t just an isolated incident, either. According to Wired, SRL tested firmware from 1,200 phones from companies like Google, Samsung, HTC, Motorola, LTE, and TCL for every Android patch released last year. They found that even major flagships from Samsung and Sony occasionally missed a patch. Obviously, this is bad. Whether it’s intentional or not, customers aren’t just being left vulnerable to hacks by not having the latest security updates. They’re also being lulled into a false sense of security by thinking that they are fully protected, which could lead to far more disastrous results down the line. To help with that, SRL is releasing a tool called SnoopSnitch on the Play Store that can analyze your phone’s firmware for installed or missing Android security patches to see if you’re really safe, but it really shouldn’t have had to come to this in the first place. To be clear, not all phone manufacturers are equal when it comes to missing security patches. On average, phones from Google, Samsung, and Sony only tended to miss the occasional patch. But companies like ZTE and TCL performed far worse, with devices that claimed to have installed an average of four or more security patches than they actually did. For Google’s part, the company commented to Wired, “We’ve launched investigations into each instance and each OEM to bring their certified devices into compliance,” and said it would be further investigating the issue. Google also tried to explain some of SRL’s findings with manufacturers skipping patches for features that they may have just removed entirely from the device or that some of the phones lacked Google’s official Android security certification in the first place. But it’s clear there’s still more work to be done. After all, if Android device manufacturers can’t manage to update their phones, the least they could do is be honest about that fact.
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Blue Train posted:SRL researchers Karsten Nohl and Jakob Lell spent two years analyzing Android devices, checking to see if the phones actually had installed the security patches that the software said it had. The pair found that many devices had what they call a “patch gap,” where the phone’s software would claim it was up to date with security patches but was, in reality, missing up to a dozen of the patches. The app they released is broken. 
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Apr 12, 2018 17:03
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There was a whole thing about this with LineageOS as well, and how if you installed it on an obsolete device to continue getting security patches, you might not be getting what you think you're getting. Some of the patches come at the kernel level, some are at the Android framework level, and they're separate source trees. The "patch level" date comes out of the framework tree, so if they don't also patch the kernel according to the issues noted in the security bulletin, the patch level date is essentially a lie. Lineage has a tracker to show what of their supported devices were missing patches. Evidently for LineageOS' case, the onus is on the device tree maintainer to patch the kernel and report that the individual CVEs are addressed. If you're an OEM shipping Android devices that's obviously also your own job to deal with. I wonder if this is similar with these vendors, that they're not properly applying kernel patches for each given security bulletin. I haven't read all the security bulletins, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were entirely comprised of kernel patches, so just blindly rebuilding might result in bumping the date with no real patches applied.
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Apr 12, 2018 17:33
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All the available Moto G5+ phones on Amazon come with their stupid "exclusive" spyware. I'm seeing how this is a particularly bad time to have a phone fail.
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Apr 12, 2018 17:54
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I've recently switched mobile networks and ported my old number, but in Settings it's still showing as the phone number the SIM originally came with. Is this anything I can amend myself? I've confirmed my number is correctly ported (by calling myself, naturally), and my data connection is in working order. I've also tried restarting my Pixel 2 a few times, but it's stubbornly stuck showing the old number in Settings.
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Apr 12, 2018 18:08
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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ThermoPhysical posted:The app they released is broken. Results on my G5+ were 1 missing and 11 inconclusive compared to claimed patch level (January, lol).
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Apr 12, 2018 18:10
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Nocturtle posted:All the available Moto G5+ phones on Amazon come with their stupid "exclusive" spyware. I'm seeing how this is a particularly bad time to have a phone fail. It's just a lockscreen ad and it uninstalls itself after a predetermined time period and it's a good deal but still don't buy a G5+ in April 2018
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FistEnergy posted:It's just a lockscreen ad and it uninstalls itself after a predetermined time period and it's a good deal but still don't buy a G5+ in April 2018 There was no lockscreen on mine, just a bunch of shovelware. Notably absent in the shovelware was FB, and all disabled with Package Disabler Pro, which isn't strictly necessary but it felt good to do
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Apr 12, 2018 20:27
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Average missing patches per device from each manufacturer 0 or 1 - Google, Samsung, and Sony 1 to 3 - Xiaomi, OnePlus, and Nokia 3 to 4 - HTC, Huawei, LG, and Motorola 4 or more - TCL and ZTE
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Apr 12, 2018 21:09
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Woot has certified refurb Pixel 2 (Verizon version so locked bootloader but otherwise working on all carriers) in all storage sizes and colors right now starting at $499. You can do a lot lot worse for $500.
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Apr 12, 2018 21:31
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bull3964 posted:Woot has certified refurb Pixel 2 (Verizon version so locked bootloader but otherwise working on all carriers) in all storage sizes and colors right now starting at $499. You lose the 2 year Google warranty in this situation, correct?
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Apr 12, 2018 21:38
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Maneki Neko posted:You lose the 2 year Google warranty in this situation, correct? Correct, you only have the 90 day Woot warranty.
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Apr 12, 2018 21:45
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I got a refurbished Pixel 1 from woot a month or so back for $325 and it had almost no signs of wear. I am concerned about the lack of warranty support but if something breaks I'll probably just fix it myself.
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Apr 12, 2018 22:14
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I got a galaxy s9+ last week because I wanted to spend money. After a few days of playing with it, I am struggling to find the $840 of benefit it has over my moto g4 plus. The screen is nice? The new battery is nice but that does not count. I rarely take photos so I don't care too much about the nice camera. I even prefer how moto's ambient display shows a clock timer and the full notifications where samsung's always on display just has a tiny icon. I'm seriously thinking of returning it. There is the pixel 2 xl. I think I'll miss the headphone jack, maybe.
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Opiumden34 posted:I got a galaxy s9+ last week because I wanted to spend money. After a few days of playing with it, I am struggling to find the $840 of benefit it has over my moto g4 plus. The screen is nice? The new battery is nice but that does not count. I rarely take photos so I don't care too much about the nice camera. I even prefer how moto's ambient display shows a clock timer and the full notifications where samsung's always on display just has a tiny icon. I'm seriously thinking of returning it. There is the pixel 2 xl. I think I'll miss the headphone jack, maybe. The difference between high end and mid range is literally just the screen and camera. So if you don't care about the screen and camera, then there are other phones that are higher value.
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https://mobilesyrup.com/2018/04/12/android-manufacturers-lie-security-updates/ So it turns out that some developers were lying about patch level. 
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Rexxed posted:I got a refurbished Pixel 1 from woot a month or so back for $325 and it had almost no signs of wear. I am concerned about the lack of warranty support but if something breaks I'll probably just fix it myself. If it breaks just take it to the Google store
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SystemLogoff posted:https://mobilesyrup.com/2018/04/12/android-manufacturers-lie-security-updates/ We know 
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Does anyone else have the problem of their Pixel 2 (both non and XL versions) causing either their router to disconnect ALL wifi clients or making their router reboot entirely? Because I do... I thought my router was on the fritz, but I just figured out tonight it happens whenever my phone connects. It actually causes my router to completely reboot, sometimes 2-3 times in a row. Have verified it happens on my Asus RT-AC66U, a friends 68U, and another friends' Netgear 3200. And I am not alone: https://productforums.google.com/forum/?nomobile=true#!topic/phone-by-google/E7sQJOTnXNk;context-place=forum/phone-by-google So basically I can't use Wifi on my Pixel 2 at all, because it will kill any router it connects to.
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No issues with my onhub.
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stevewm posted:Does anyone else have the problem of their Pixel 2 (both non and XL versions) causing either their router to disconnect ALL wifi clients or making their router reboot entirely? I work in IT and have my pixel 2 XL connecting to all types of routers and APs and have never experienced this issue. There was a known problem with Google home and home minis that was causing a saturation of wireless which would cause similar issues to what you're describing but it has since been fixed.
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couldcareless posted:I work in IT and have my pixel 2 XL connecting to all types of routers and APs and have never experienced this issue. There was a known problem with Google home and home minis that was causing a saturation of wireless which would cause similar issues to what you're describing but it has since been fixed. Yeah, I know about that issue.. The Nexus Player was actually affected by that one too.. It would randomly flood the network with Bonjour/mDNS broadcasts. A Google Play services update fixed it. But this wifi thing seems to be a separate issue entirely based on the amount of reports I've found on the internet about it. Google's own product forums have a few threads about it, that linked one being the biggest. Mine got worse with the recently released April update.
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Apr 13, 2018 05:16
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Ah missed that post. Thank you.
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Is this issue about mobile data always active still relevant? I've had my Pixel 2XL for about two weeks now and I just plowed through my data warning while in a Skype call... Even though I was connected to WiFi at the time. Sure enough, that developer setting was active, so I turned it off.
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Jan posted:Is this issue about mobile data always active still relevant? I've had my Pixel 2XL for about two weeks now and I just plowed through my data warning while in a Skype call... Even though I was connected to WiFi at the time. Sure enough, that developer setting was active, so I turned it off. Holy poo poo. Pixel 2XL fresh off a factory reset and:  Last month I blew through my 10GB data cap and couldn't figure out why. This is loving it, thank you!!!
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CLAM DOWN posted:Holy poo poo. Pixel 2XL fresh off a factory reset and: That's just it, I don't know if this explains it. Even while that setting was active, I still pulled 30GB over WiFi to my paltry 2GB over data... So what determines when data was used for that 2 GB?
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CLAM DOWN posted:Holy poo poo. Pixel 2XL fresh off a factory reset and: I wouldn't assume that setting's for sure the issue. Mine's on and data usage has been 40 gb over wifi and 200 mb over cell network the past month. The Reddit thread about it from like 8 months ago has lots of counter-anecdotes. In any case, that's definitely not how it's supposed to be working, it's just keeping the modem active to enable fast handoff between wifi and cell, not to keep pulling data over cell despite being connected to wifi.
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Well poo poo. Something has to be weird with the setting though, I've never blown through my data cap before and my usage pattern was normal. I wish there was an easy way to diagnose.
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Apr 13, 2018 06:53
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Does nothing show up under Data Usage? I would expect you to be able to go to the Data Usage screen and see how much data your apps are using.
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Apr 13, 2018 08:19
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Yeah I've had that setting on for ever and my data usage is fine, you could even say it's nice 
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  xiaomi's gaming phone $477 with a snapdragon 845 + $30 controller doubt it has bands to work anywhere outside china, though
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Nokia 7 Plus seems to be trickling into german stores at 350 Euros, hope that's not a pricing error.
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If that's right, my wife is getting my P9. 350€ would be loving awesome but I still think it'll be around 450€.
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Yeah, pricing for the 7 plus just got announced in my neck of the woods and price conversion has it at about €343. I'm just about sure this will be my next phone since my 6P's battery life is getting pretty bad and I've been looking for a midrange equivalent to the Pixel 2 XL.
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