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A big flaming stink posted:how would you deal with artifacts that have creature, land, or enchantment supertypes? They would lose all their text but keep their types and p/t, so for instance Wurmcoil Engine would be a 6/6 Artifact Creature - Wurm that does nothing when it dies and Vault of Whispers would be an Artifact Land that doesn't tap for mana Like, Humility was printed 20 years ago. All these problems have already been encountered and solved in the rules, although sometimes the interactions are counterintuitive
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Balon posted:If it’s an enchantment it should be more along the lines of: Call it… mud moon.
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Apr 14, 2018 07:47
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Cactrot posted:Call it… mud moon.
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Apr 14, 2018 07:58
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Clue Moon
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THE BLACK NINJA posted:You fuckin mellineals are a joke. please make this dumb comment the thread title
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Apr 14, 2018 08:37
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Elyv posted:They would lose all their text but keep their types and p/t, so for instance Wurmcoil Engine would be a 6/6 Artifact Creature - Wurm that does nothing when it dies and Vault of Whispers would be an Artifact Land that doesn't tap for mana Oh, no, I wasn't being rhetorical, I was legitimately asking if there is some rules voodoo you can do to remove a supertype from a card.
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Apr 14, 2018 08:41
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Matsuri posted:please make this dumb comment the thread title Seconded
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Apr 14, 2018 08:47
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Matsuri posted:please make this dumb comment the thread title I’m cool with it.
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Apr 14, 2018 12:02
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A big flaming stink posted:Oh, no, I wasn't being rhetorical, I was legitimately asking if there is some rules voodoo you can do to remove a supertype from a card. There is but Creature and Artifact aren't Supertypes.
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Apr 14, 2018 12:18
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The word other exists. They can do something like: Artifacts gain "2, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card." and lose all other abilities.
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Apr 14, 2018 16:29
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It's been templated already: 
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Apr 14, 2018 16:42
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Silly vorthos question: but what does the mana cost for a planeswalker actually represent? Is like that like the cost of some interplanar phone call that makes them planeswalk in? The cost of opening a portal for them to step through?
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Apr 14, 2018 16:47
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Mana is the fantasy equivalent of Bitcoin. You’re just transferring some cash to them.
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Apr 14, 2018 16:49
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So many people don’t understand totem armor in 2018. Forgetting first strike happens so often too with the umbra.
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Apr 14, 2018 17:15
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oryx posted:Silly vorthos question: but what does the mana cost for a planeswalker actually represent? Is like that like the cost of some interplanar phone call that makes them planeswalk in? The cost of opening a portal for them to step through? I had a question along the same lines of "Why do the Planeswalkers in the story never summon anything?" but I think the concept that players and planeswalkers in the story are similar things is pretty gone from the game at this point
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Apr 14, 2018 17:17
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It’s pretty amazing how many people want to play jeskai control.
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Apr 14, 2018 17:22
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Sickening posted:It’s pretty amazing how many people want to play jeskai control. It has all the cool cards!
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Apr 14, 2018 17:30
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I had my Nezahal Primal Tide die to a Walk the Plank yesterday and that seems dumb  There should be a "water creatures" tribe group or something that can be excluded from spells like that!
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Apr 14, 2018 17:32
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This commentary is the worst I have ever heard.
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Apr 14, 2018 17:39
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vegetables posted:I had a question along the same lines of "Why do the Planeswalkers in the story never summon anything?" but I think the concept that players and planeswalkers in the story are similar things is pretty gone from the game at this point nissa summons things all the time!
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Apr 14, 2018 17:41
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Doesn't Jeskai Control have basically a free win vs humans though?
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mandatory lesbian posted:nissa summons things all the time! So does Liliana
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moush posted:Doesn't Jeskai Control have basically a free win vs humans though? i find it hard to believe any deck with control in the name has a free win against any aggro deck, but i'm sure it lines up very well
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Sickening posted:This commentary is the worst I have ever heard. the format has been shoved down our throat for the last 3 months, people are starting to get bored
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Retromancer posted:So does Liliana So does Elspeth and Sorin. Like...every walker that creates a token of something is shown to have used that ability at some point in the story.
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Apr 14, 2018 17:50
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80s James Hetfield posted:the format has been shoved down our throat for the last 3 months, people are starting to get bored Not only is that wrong but it also doesn’t make any sense.
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Apr 14, 2018 17:53
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Sickening posted:This commentary is the worst I have ever heard. Not sure what round you were talking about but I really like Melissa on commentary.
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Apr 14, 2018 17:56
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Buffis posted:I had my Nezahal Primal Tide die to a Walk the Plank yesterday and that seems dumb You do see groupings like that from time to time   that said, Nezahal specifically is an elder dinosaur so even if you were adding this silly grouping it would still get to swim the plank
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Apr 14, 2018 18:06
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Buffis posted:I had my Nezahal Primal Tide die to a Walk the Plank yesterday and that seems dumb It was a cedar plank, op
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Apr 14, 2018 18:11
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Tainen posted:Not sure what round you were talking about but I really like Melissa on commentary. Some people get real internet mad about ~females~ intruding in their serious cardboard wizard games.
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Apr 14, 2018 18:12
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I could see a move toward this kind of grouping being kick-started by the "historic" mechanic. Destroy all sea creatures (sea creatures are merfolk, fish, Leviathan, kraken, serpent, and octopus creatures)
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Apr 14, 2018 18:15
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pretty sure that's too narrow to get an entire keyword
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Apr 14, 2018 18:16
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Lack of Bear posted:I could see a move toward this kind of grouping being kick-started by the "historic" mechanic. Definitely not. You don't want to have the overhead associated with that for the player, as the value is minimal.
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Apr 14, 2018 18:16
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If they'd do anything like that it would be "creature keyword abilities" (first strike, vigilance, flying, trample, etc.) for cards like Odric, but that's also never going to happen.
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Apr 14, 2018 18:21
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Toshimo posted:Some people get real internet mad about ~females~ intruding in their serious cardboard wizard games. Shut the gently caress up. Melissa is fine, the previous round was a garbage fire and it had nothing to do with gender.
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Apr 14, 2018 18:25
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The Shortest Path posted:If they'd do anything like that it would be "creature keyword abilities" (first strike, vigilance, flying, trample, etc.) for cards like Odric, but that's also never going to happen. i think the main reason they won't do this (other then the fact that a bunch of people would try and do things like give Radiance to Odric or something) is that trying to specify creature abilities becomes hard when you think of something like hexproof, which can be on creatures and non-creatures
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mandatory lesbian posted:i think the main reason they won't do this (other then the fact that a bunch of people would try and do things like give Radiance to Odric or something) is that trying to specify creature abilities becomes hard when you think of something like hexproof, which can be on creatures and non-creatures I mean specifically a list of all keywords that show up on creatures, shorthanded into something specifically for cards like that. Stuff like hexproof and indestructible show up on other things too yeah but that doesn't really matter for cards like Odric. But I think that the potential problems from that outweigh the benefits, especially since those cards aren't printed very frequently, and most of them are mediocre at best and don't see much play.
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Eternal digital CCG already does this for “combat abilities” on creatures and it works pretty well. Granted, it’s easier to do batching when you have software that can handle a lot of the rules overhead.
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Archenteron posted:It was a cedar plank, op I appreciate this post.
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