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I don't know why they couldn't have just cleaned up the rules for Regeneration instead of getting rid of it entirely.
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ShadeofBlue posted:Eh whatever. Indestructible is a better ability than regenerate, so making it cost more makes sense. I doubt more thought went into it than that. It’s purely a limited card, and a bad one at that so who cares what the activated ability costs anyway? a wall isnt gonna be regenerating twice a turn
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Apr 15, 2018 03:59
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AnEdgelord posted:I don't know why they couldn't have just cleaned up the rules for Regeneration instead of getting rid of it entirely. regeneration has a lot of clauses that make it hard to clean up without changing in some way, and they don't like functional errata, which I think is a good thing tbh
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Apr 15, 2018 04:01
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So I'm 5-2 at Hartford today playing for day 2. My opponent is at 4. I play a human to trigger my champion to 4/4. He cracks his fetch and starts looking through his deck shocked that he doesn't have any Mountains left to get and not have to shock himself. So he calls a judge and says he had 3 mountains on his decklist but only 2 in his actual deck, the third mountain was a Stomping Grounds instead. After like 15 mins the, the judges let him walk over to the draft tables, grab a mountain and put in his deck instead of the Stomping Grounds and lets him fetch it to bolt my Champion. He was dead on board at 1, he won the game cause he only had to go to 3. WTF.
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Apr 15, 2018 04:21
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mcmagic posted:So I'm 5-2 at Hartford today playing for day 2. My opponent is at 4. I play a human to trigger my champion to 4/4. He cracks his fetch and starts looking through his deck shocked that he doesn't have any Mountains left to get and not have to shock himself. So he calls a judge and says he had 3 mountains on his decklist but only 2 in his actual deck, the third mountain was a Stomping Grounds instead. After like 15 mins the, the judges let him walk over to the draft tables, grab a mountain and put in his deck instead of the Stomping Grounds and lets him fetch it to bolt my Champion. He was dead on board at 1, he won the game cause he only had to go to 3. WTF. Correct and owned.
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Apr 15, 2018 04:23
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AnEdgelord posted:I don't know why they couldn't have just cleaned up the rules for Regeneration instead of getting rid of it entirely. Wizards, understandably, doesn't like to change cards so they that they actually work differently than what it says on the card / how they worked when first printed. There's plenty of old cards that are a goddamn mess but aren't gonna be fixed because functional errata is a no-no.
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Apr 15, 2018 04:24
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Toshimo posted:Correct and owned. Yeah they really showed me for filling out my decklist correctly... (I've gotten game losses for deck list registration errors before. I'm sure everyone who plays competitive magic has.)
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Apr 15, 2018 04:27
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Entropic posted:Wizards, understandably, doesn't like to change cards so they that they actually work differently than what it says on the card / how they worked when first printed. "target creature or player" I support them finally making the sensible choice on this but man is it going to be confusing explaining to newer players that that phrase could mean two different things depending on when the card was printed
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Apr 15, 2018 04:27
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Entropic posted:Wizards, understandably, doesn't like to change cards so they that they actually work differently than what it says on the card / how they worked when first printed. *cough*Impulse*cough*
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Apr 15, 2018 04:28
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TVsVeryOwn posted:*cough*Impulse*cough* What the heck was the story with that card anyway? Why did it get changed?
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Apr 15, 2018 04:29
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Toshimo posted:Correct and owned. I'm not so sure it's correct. From the IPG about deck problems: quote:If an error resulted in more copies of a main deck card being played than were registered and this was discovered after the game had begun, the penalty is a Game Loss. Presumably, the opponent has been benefitting from the improved mana consistency of playing with one more stomping grounds than they registered. So it should have been a game loss and then they can fix their deck for the next game.
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Apr 15, 2018 04:34
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mcmagic posted:So I'm 5-2 at Hartford today playing for day 2. My opponent is at 4. I play a human to trigger my champion to 4/4. He cracks his fetch and starts looking through his deck shocked that he doesn't have any Mountains left to get and not have to shock himself. So he calls a judge and says he had 3 mountains on his decklist but only 2 in his actual deck, the third mountain was a Stomping Grounds instead. After like 15 mins the, the judges let him walk over to the draft tables, grab a mountain and put in his deck instead of the Stomping Grounds and lets him fetch it to bolt my Champion. He was dead on board at 1, he won the game cause he only had to go to 3. WTF. holy poo poo
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Apr 15, 2018 04:37
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Castaway Jace seems real bad so I'm disappointed I opened 2 of him in mtg arena.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:00
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TheLawinator posted:Castaway Jace seems real bad so I'm disappointed I opened 2 of him in mtg arena. Not as bad as GW Huatli.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:03
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Entropic posted:Not as bad as GW Huatli. She is better than him and might see play in GW tokens.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:15
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Every time I've run up against GW Huatli in Arena I've ended up basically ignoring it and attacking the player instead because it was doing basically nothing. I admit it might do something if you cast it in a board state where you're already overhwhelmingly winning.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:23
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Regeneration causing creatures to become tapped makes sense, especially since they started printing Zombies that CPT which I assume is meant to represent them needing a turn to rise from their grave, and Regeneration is "I died, but I got better" and it makes sense that it would "exhaust" a creature.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:24
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mcmagic posted:So I'm 5-2 at Hartford today playing for day 2. My opponent is at 4. I play a human to trigger my champion to 4/4. He cracks his fetch and starts looking through his deck shocked that he doesn't have any Mountains left to get and not have to shock himself. So he calls a judge and says he had 3 mountains on his decklist but only 2 in his actual deck, the third mountain was a Stomping Grounds instead. After like 15 mins the, the judges let him walk over to the draft tables, grab a mountain and put in his deck instead of the Stomping Grounds and lets him fetch it to bolt my Champion. He was dead on board at 1, he won the game cause he only had to go to 3. WTF. I get why they changed that rule but that seems loving loose as hell.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:33
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mcmagic posted:So I'm 5-2 at Hartford today playing for day 2. My opponent is at 4. I play a human to trigger my champion to 4/4. He cracks his fetch and starts looking through his deck shocked that he doesn't have any Mountains left to get and not have to shock himself. So he calls a judge and says he had 3 mountains on his decklist but only 2 in his actual deck, the third mountain was a Stomping Grounds instead. After like 15 mins the, the judges let him walk over to the draft tables, grab a mountain and put in his deck instead of the Stomping Grounds and lets him fetch it to bolt my Champion. He was dead on board at 1, he won the game cause he only had to go to 3. WTF. I woulda appealed to a head judge for that, that seems sketchy as hell letting a player resolve a deck / decklist error in their favor in the middle of a search with no meaningful penalty.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:36
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Entropic posted:I woulda appealed to a head judge for that, that seems sketchy as hell letting a player resolve a deck / decklist error in their favor in the middle of a search with no meaningful penalty. I mean it does feel like special circumstance. This isn't someone finding that they left their sideboard during keep/mul. This isn't someone finding out they put the wrong card in their deck their first round. This isn't someone noticing they lost a card somehow. This fucker has been running an illegal deck for 7 rounds and then only finding it out when it benefits them. It could all be legit but smells stinky as gently caress.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:44
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I would understand that ruling if he had like a random Island instead of his third Mountain but in that specific case it seems like he should have to deal with it. Stomping Grounds is a Mountain. What would have happened if he had played Stomping Grounds? It sounds like he intentionally put it in his deck.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:45
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Was it the only stomping ground or one more than he should have had? I can't think of a deck that would 3 mountains and a stomping ground on purpose. Are burn running that as a variant these days? If so, having a second one in the deck is a benefit on the play as it ups the odds to being able to play Destructive Revelry on curve blowing up a vial. Although now that i think about it revelry in for just vial seems loose on its own. Sickening fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Apr 15, 2018 |
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Apr 15, 2018 05:50
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Entropic posted:Wizards, understandably, doesn't like to change cards so they that they actually work differently than what it says on the card / how they worked when first printed. One of the ones that got changed, that I find the most fun is Kormus bell. https://magiccards.info/un/en/257.html It went from: "Swamps have no color; they are not considered black cards." in alpha/beta/unlimited to "All Swamps are 1/1 black creatures that are still lands." in the most recent ocacle text.
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Apr 15, 2018 05:52
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Entropic posted:Wizards, understandably, doesn't like to change cards so they that they actually work differently than what it says on the card / how they worked when first printed. 
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Apr 15, 2018 05:54
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mcmagic posted:So I'm 5-2 at Hartford today playing for day 2. My opponent is at 4. I play a human to trigger my champion to 4/4. He cracks his fetch and starts looking through his deck shocked that he doesn't have any Mountains left to get and not have to shock himself. So he calls a judge and says he had 3 mountains on his decklist but only 2 in his actual deck, the third mountain was a Stomping Grounds instead. After like 15 mins the, the judges let him walk over to the draft tables, grab a mountain and put in his deck instead of the Stomping Grounds and lets him fetch it to bolt my Champion. He was dead on board at 1, he won the game cause he only had to go to 3. WTF. gently caress that, gently caress those judges, and gently caress the fact that this seems to be the new norm for competitive play.
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Apr 15, 2018 06:00
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Such a great picture showing the skillfulness of this cool cardgame for cool people.  ... I need to find the time to go to a Modern LGS event with my Hollow One deck again soon 
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Apr 15, 2018 06:03
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How long until Hollow One starts including Death's Shadows? 
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Apr 15, 2018 06:05
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The Shortest Path posted:How long until Hollow One starts including Death's Shadows? They used to run that last year, but I think it wasn't as good as the more recent lists. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/deck-evolutions-hollow-one-modern
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Apr 15, 2018 06:11
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mcmagic posted:So I'm 5-2 at Hartford today playing for day 2. My opponent is at 4. I play a human to trigger my champion to 4/4. He cracks his fetch and starts looking through his deck shocked that he doesn't have any Mountains left to get and not have to shock himself. So he calls a judge and says he had 3 mountains on his decklist but only 2 in his actual deck, the third mountain was a Stomping Grounds instead. After like 15 mins the, the judges let him walk over to the draft tables, grab a mountain and put in his deck instead of the Stomping Grounds and lets him fetch it to bolt my Champion. He was dead on board at 1, he won the game cause he only had to go to 3. WTF. I assume you appealed to the head judge because lol. Maybe if they had 59 cards in their deck, and the judges could see that the only inconsistency was a missing Mountain, and you could confirm that the opponent started the match with 60 cards (like if you watched them pile count it), maybe then I could see allowing a swap like that. Like if a card just fuckin' disappears or whatever. lol at playing with a different deck than your decklist and being allowed to change back to the decklist midgame though
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Apr 15, 2018 06:13
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https://wpn.wizards.com/en/document/magic-infraction-procedure-guide
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Apr 15, 2018 06:35
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Buffis posted:Such a great picture showing the skillfulness of this cool cardgame for cool people. So was the sequence "cycle Street Wraith, play Mire, crack for Blood Crypt, play Faithless Looting (ditching Bloodghast/Mountain), cycle Street Wrath, cycle Street Wraith, double Hollow One?"
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Apr 15, 2018 07:18
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Some Numbers posted:So was the sequence "cycle Street Wraith, play Mire, crack for Blood Crypt, play Faithless Looting (ditching Bloodghast/Mountain), cycle Street Wrath, cycle Street Wraith, double Hollow One?" Correct. But to be fair, it is the mirror.
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Apr 15, 2018 07:20
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It's an extremely WOTC thing to always err on the side of the dumbass who hosed up when putting his deck together.
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Apr 15, 2018 07:21
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Toshimo posted:Correct. But to be fair, it is the mirror. Oh wow, I didn't even look at that.
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Apr 15, 2018 07:26
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A "deck problem" violation, which is just a warning, has the additional remedy listed as "Remove any incorrect cards from the deck, including any sideboard cards that could not yet legally have been added. Locate any cards missing from the deck and shuffle them into the randomized portion of the deck. If the missing card(s) are with the sideboard and it isn’t the first game, choose the ones to be shuffled into the deck at random from all sideboard cards. If the error is discovered during opening hands, instruct the player to mulligan. Otherwise, do not replace discovered erroneous cards in hands or other sets (such as a group of cards being scried or drawn)." I would have appealed that for sure in that situation but it kinda reads like as long as he says "oh the listed deck is what I actually meant to play" then what happened is actually correct. Which.... seems like total bullshit right? To do it in the middle of the activation of a fetch that's crucial in that way, and then let him still resolve it seems crazy to me. Like, obviously he should have to fail to find right? Is calling a judge a state based action? lol
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Apr 15, 2018 07:42
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I would say that after 7 rounds, that's his deck now, amend the deck list and resolve the fetch.
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Apr 15, 2018 08:18
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the fact that the dude didnt even have the mountain on him leads me to believe the judge should have used some actual judgement and determined he'd been cheating for the past 7 rounds
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Apr 15, 2018 08:34
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mandatory lesbian posted:the fact that the dude didnt even have the mountain on him leads me to believe the judge should have used some actual judgement and determined he'd been cheating for the past 7 rounds
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Apr 15, 2018 08:40
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If i have a maindeck Eidolon of Rhetoric on my decklist and I play 7 rounds without playing against Storm, and then whoops I try to Chord for Eidolon in round 8 against Storm and oh wouldn't you know it this maindeck Tireless Tracker is actually supposed to be an Eidolon, and I call a judge, I would not expect to be continuing to play Magic.
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BrianBoitano posted:So I'm going to a prerelease next weekend. First mtg event I've gone to in a long time. Is there any way to "play" Dominaria cards online? The OP mentions Apprentice and Netdraft, which both seem quite outdated. Thoughts? I want to prep more than just slam-jammin momir casual because it's free and I have no other cards.
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