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SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Why doesn't Xi just execute the rest of the rich people and collectivize the companies lol sound capitalist to me

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

Why doesn't Xi just execute the rest of the rich people and collectivize the companies lol sound capitalist to me

China has to reach late capitalism first so they need to make it exactly like usa complete with billionaires before having their revolution

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Typo posted:

China has to reach late capitalism first so they need to make it exactly like usa complete with billionaires before having their revolution

Aren't there billionaires there already? They need executing

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:

Aren't there billionaires there already? They need executing

No, you have to reach the BPF (billionaire production frontier) before doing so if you don't then it violates dialectic materialism since china isn't ready for communism yet

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Hmmm seems counterrevolutionary but sure

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

purchasing

power

parity

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

viral spiral posted:

Is this your way of pretending America is currently not on an irreversible decline because lol

yes and that also doesn't mean that china's rise is some unstoppable behemoth

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

https://www.afp.com/en/news/826/i-am-gay-protests-china-bans-homosexual-content-weibo-doc-1407pi2

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

so what?

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



yeah if you have gay people then they won't make kids and then you won't be able to sustain your

wait poo poo wrong country

uhh yeah that seems bad

i guess hating gay people really is socialism

also cracking down on 'violent video games' like grand theft auto. praise china

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015

SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:


also cracking down on 'violent video games' like grand theft auto. praise china

this but unironically

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



resar posted:

this but unironically

Who said it was ironic?

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


tired: lgbt rights, freedom of expression

wired: preserving family values social harmony

Metal Cat
Dec 25, 2017

Metal Cat has issued a correction as of 02:55 on Oct 24, 2021

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
tired: throwing your gay son out of the house

wired: killing yourself

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
how regulated are ride-sharing services in China?

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Yossarian-22 posted:

yes and that also doesn't mean that china's rise is some unstoppable behemoth

You know China just buys off America's neoliberal establishment right

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
Socialism with Chinese characteristics!


“CNBC” posted:

China to open auto market as trade tensions simmer

* China to remove cap on electric vehicle ventures this year
*Could benefit the likes of U.S. carmaker Tesla
* Symbolic shift from policy in place since 1994

* International carmakers say unlikely to scrap JVs
* China trade tensions growing with United States (Adds comments from German carmakers)
BEIJING/SHANGHAI, April 17 (Reuters) - China will scrap a limit on foreign ownership of automotive ventures by 2022 in a major policy shift to open up the world's biggest car market, even as trade tensions simmer between Washington and Beijing.
In a move welcomed by Germany's powerful car industry, China's state planner said on Tuesday it would remove foreign ownership caps for companies making fully electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles in 2018, for makers of commercial vehicles in 2020, and the wider car market by 2022.
China imposed ownership restrictions in 1994, limiting foreign carmakers to owning no more than a 50 percent share of any local venture. Forcing foreign carmakers to work with Chinese firms was designed to help domestic carmakers compete.
The latest policy move marks a new twist in a see-saw week for Chinese trade. The country slapped a temporary fee on U.S. sorghum on Tuesday after the United States banned American companies from selling parts to Chinese phone maker ZTE Corp on Monday.
Germany's BMW, which has a big stake in trade relations between Beijing and Washington as the biggest exporter of vehicles from the United States to China, welcomed the decision.
”We believe a more free and flexible business environment will benefit both Chinese and foreign companies in China and the Chinese economy. BMW will continue pursuing mutual benefit and win-win solutions with the local partners," the carmaker said.
BMW added it remained committed to expanding a joint venture with China's BBA and was still discussing how to structure a new partnership for its Mini brand with China's Great Wall Motors.
Analysts said the main beneficiaries, at least in the short term, would be manufacturers focused on new-energy vehicles, including U.S. electric carmaker Tesla, which has been seeking to set up its own plant in Shanghai.
Tesla chief Elon Musk said last month that China's tough auto rules for foreign businesses created an uneven playing field as scores of local and international companies compete for a slice of China's fast-growing market for "green" cars.
Tesla was not immediately available to comment on Tuesday.
The looser rules are likely to raise pressure on domestic carmakers, potentially hitting the likes of Warren Buffett-backed BYD Co.
Traditional automakers will need to wait longer for any direct impact and could face more risks than opportunities in ditching their joint venture structures, said James Chao, Asia-Pacific chief at consultancy IHS Markit.
"Foreign companies may already be in a box (in China)," said Chao, adding the joint venture structure was now so ingrained that many might not want to change it.
"While getting a bigger share could be advantageous in terms of boosting profits, they may actually be already too dependent on their Chinese partners to sever those ties."
A spokesman for Germany's Volkswagen said: "We will carefully analyse whether this opens up new opportunities for Volkswagen and its brands."
Daimler, parent company of Mercedes-Benz, said it was happy with its current business set-up in China, adding it was watching regulatory developments with interest.
JOINT VENTURES
A senior General Motors (GM) executive said last week the U.S. carmaker, even without ownership caps, would not cut ties with local partner SAIC Motor Corp. The source, who asked to remain anonymous because of the sensitivity of the matter, added GM would not be as successful in China on its own.
GM also said last week its growth in China was "a result of working with our trusted joint venture partners".
Japan's Nissan Motor Co said in a statement it would "monitor how any specific policies develop and will plan accordingly".
Honda Motor Co said its China business had grown on the back of strong local tie-ups. "At the moment we have no plans to change our capital relationship," a spokesman said.
China will also scrap limits on foreign ownership in the shipbuilding and aircraft industries in 2018, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) said.
Airbus and Boeing did not immediately respond to Reuters' requests for comment.
The highly symbolic moves in autos come after President Xi Jinping said last week China would scrap ownership limits "as soon as possible", exciting global auto brands even as Beijing and Washington spar over trade tariffs.
China, which said the easing of autos rules was unrelated to that dispute, is keen to portray itself as open for business. Its ties with the world's largest economy, though, are becoming increasingly fraught.
The United States has banned American companies from selling parts to telecoms equipment maker ZTE Corp for seven years, creating a new fissure in Sino-U.S. ties.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


*in extremely Socialist voice* China is open for business!!

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

A Typical Goon posted:

Socialism with Chinese characteristics!

I don't thin this matters that much tbh, they might relaxed a bunch of formal rules but there's a zillion ways Chinese government can gently caress around with western companies in China to achieve pretty much the same result by a around about way, this is mostly a symbolic political concession to Trump so he can go back to his base and proclaim a victory

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

viral spiral posted:

You know China just buys off America's neoliberal establishment right

china's genius longterm strategy for global political hegemony.... to become the failing u.s. empire :sad:

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Yossarian-22 posted:

china's genius longterm strategy for global political hegemony.... to become the failing u.s. empire :sad:

it's only an empire if it follows the very specific requirements laid out in this Medium post from 1917

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


gradenko_2000 posted:

how regulated are ride-sharing services in China?

Lol what kind of pussy takes an uber in china

You either pay that guy with the tuk-tuk scooter thing his 5-10 kuai and you get to skip all the car traffic (maybe even arrive alive)

or for long distances you hire a crazy dude with a van that everybody seems to know

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

gradenko_2000 posted:

how regulated are ride-sharing services in China?

very. the government has a lot more restrictions on drivers and costs, and even during peak hours they can't jack up prices too high. the company is required to heavily subsidize drivers, though not as much as they were before. in major cities cabs are plentiful and dirt cheap though, so i don't really use didi

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

*in extremely Socialist voice* China is open for business!!

this is literally a trick to get foreign investment vultures to dump money into the economy

this article is about finance companies but it's true across the board

never thought i'd say "typo is right," but...typo is right

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

also re: the "gay content ban" on weibo, that was pretty quickly reversed and state media criticized weibo's carelessness

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/weibo-gay-ban-content-outcry-china-lgbt-social-media-a8308221.html

seems like it wasn't a request from the government, but a poorly conceived enforcement of weibo's policies and cyberspace law. if the government wanted the content gone they would have kept the "ban" going

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
They wanted the porn gone but the gay dick selfies to stay. Easy mistake could happen to anyone.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
i miss the USSR

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
posting to get my questionmark to see my most excellent posts about anime itt

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
wtf this isn't the tankey thread

i need a great quote about socialism in logh from one of the books

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
the tankie thread is extremely bad

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

actually its good.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

it seems like just a year or two ago you really had to believe some serious poo poo to be a tankie, now its just anyone who likes actually existing communism? why has this happened?

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
The holodomor was NOT a predictable, if unintended, consequence of ruthless and rapid industrialization. It was INTENTIONAL and it was AWESOME.

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

tankies are the original "um actually" guys but instead of pedantry it's poo poo that killed millions of people

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Zas posted:

it seems like just a year or two ago you really had to believe some serious poo poo to be a tankie, now its just anyone who likes actually existing communism? why has this happened?

There seems to be a never-ending shortage of idiots on this site who believe USSR fans (i.e "tankies") also like hyper-capitalist Putin and the Russian Federation; even questioning America's foreign policy in the Middle East is enough to elicit arbitrary usage of that silly word. Just browse the Syria or Russia threads.

On topic: And Democracy is overrated.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


viral spiral posted:

There seems to be a never-ending shortage of idiots on this site who believe USSR fans (i.e "tankies") also like hyper-capitalist Putin and the Russian Federation; even questioning America's foreign policy in the Middle East is enough to elicit arbitrary usage of that silly word. Just browse the Syria or Russia threads.

On topic: And Democracy is overrated.

except those freaks absolutely do exist all around the internet

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Yossarian-22 posted:

tankies are the original "um actually" guys but instead of pedantry it's poo poo that killed millions of people

Tankies are born when you go to a David Irving book and replace ocaust with odomor

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

viral spiral posted:

On topic: And Democracy is overrated.

bourgeois democracy dude, don't reveal the game

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

except those freaks absolutely do exist all around the internet

I have yet to come across these USSR/RF hybrids that you speak of.

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viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Karl Barks posted:

bourgeois democracy dude, don't reveal the game

Leftism with an executive Presidency is whats needed in this bureaucratic quagmire of a country.

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