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Calaveron posted:Like, for what purpose? How is a plant going to defend itself against somebody wanting to step on them? It ain't escaping and it ain't fighting back. It seems like an awful evolutionary adaptation There are some plants (I wanna say corn) whose pheromone is very similar to the pheromone wasps release when killed. It attracts wasps to come gently caress up whoever stepped on a wasp/corn stalk.
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Though it backfires sometimes. Case in point; garlic. When the bulb is damaged it creates allicin, which deters bugs and birds from eating it. It’s also what makes it so delicious to humans. I believe peppers and capsaicin have a similar history. The younger a pepper is the hotter it is as a measure to keep animals from eating it and spreading the seeds before the pepper has matured and the seeds are ready to sprout. Vvvv it actually can be, animals that die panicked release adrenaline into the blood stream that sours the meat. Macdeo Lurjtux has a new favorite as of 18:59 on Apr 16, 2018 |
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Super Grocery Kart posted:Some plants can produce bitter/poisonous compounds under stress that may help deter being eaten. It doesn’t have the capability to tell the difference between being eaten and stepped on though, just a general sense that it’s in danger which triggers the dispersal of the warning pheromones. Alternatively, dying in terror is an evolutionary advantage
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Apr 16, 2018 18:56
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:
Mother Nature is petty as gently caress
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Though it backfires sometimes. Case in point; garlic. When the bulb is damaged it creates allicin, which deters bugs and birds from eating it. It’s also what makes it so delicious to humans. And now we farm it in massive quantities. Being delicious to humans - A survival trait
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:
Citation needed, as anecdotally this is not true. A friend of mine was killing a couple of pigs and killed the first one correctly with a single gun shot. The second he missed and shot half its jaw off and then had to chase it round for about half an hour before he could shoot it again and kill it. Despite being quite distraught about his gently caress up, he took advantage of the situation and tested this theory that stressed animals produce worse tasting meat. This was done by tracking the meat from each while butchering. Then when it came to cooking doing a double blind taste test and no one who tested could tell the difference between the two animal's meat.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Though it backfires sometimes. Case in point; garlic. When the bulb is damaged it creates allicin, which deters bugs and birds from eating it. It’s also what makes it so delicious to humans. Peppers are actually hot to defer mammals from eating them, since our digestive system fucks up the seeds. Birds can't taste the heat.
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i'd imagine that a side benefit is that if you eat a lot of peppers the seeds won't spend long enough in your digestive system to be significantly damaged and then when they're, uh, dispersed, they're automatically fertilized
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That's what you do for fun? Chase animals and brutally torture / murder them what the gently caress, that sounded like something from a diary of a serial killer.
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ledge posted:Citation needed, as anecdotally this is not true. Oh, I hate it when that happens.
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Turtlicious posted:That's what you do for fun? Chase animals and brutally torture / murder them what the gently caress, that sounded like something from a diary of a serial killer. I don't think he mentioned it being fun or on purpose
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Apr 16, 2018 21:31
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He said they were killing pigs?
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Turtlicious posted:He said they were killing pigs? People on farms butcher their own animals, yes.
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Apr 16, 2018 21:40
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Also could have been feral pigs, and all feral pigs deserve to die.
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Do not engage with Turtlicious.
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Randaconda posted:Peppers are actually hot to defer mammals from eating them, since our digestive system fucks up the seeds. Birds can't taste the heat. Yeah, you can even feed chickens on steady diet of peppers and then they lay eggs with spicy yolks.
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Randaconda posted:Peppers are actually hot to defer mammals from eating them, since our digestive system fucks up the seeds. Birds can't taste the heat. My Dad used to have a parrot, it loved to eat tiny dried nuclear chillies.
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Dewgy posted:People on farms butcher their own animals, yes. Generally not with firearms
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Because a bullet to the brain is somehow more barbaric than cutting its throat? Don't be dense.You can accidentally make a mistake no matter which normally humane method you use, it wasn't intentional.
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Cutting the throat isn't about humane(ness?), it's to exsanguinate, the first step in butchering the animal for meat. Randaconda posted:Peppers are actually hot to defer mammals from eating them, since our digestive system fucks up the seeds. Birds can't taste the heat. Also why I'm 90% sure most Spanish speakers call Sparrows 'Chileros'. Always getting into pepper gardens. 
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Who What Now posted:Generally not with firearms Works for horses. 
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Dewgy posted:Works for horses. They use guns at the glue factory?
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ledge posted:Citation needed, as anecdotally this is not true. I love that you are referencing a double blind test and still have the high standards to call it anecdotal.
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Who What Now posted:Generally not with firearms I know a lot of farmers who kill the animals with a rifle bullet to the head. They then use a tractor to pick it up by the hind legs then slice the throat open to allow for blood to flow out.
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Dewgy posted:Works for horses. Horses deserve it.
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Randaconda posted:Peppers are actually hot to defer mammals from eating them, since our digestive system fucks up the seeds. Birds can't taste the heat. The theory is that they also tend to be very brightly colored to attract things that want to eat them. Mammals go "wow, gently caress those things" while birds are all "gently caress YEAH LET ME BITE THAT!!" It's really interesting how different things affect different creatures. Caffeine is actually a chemical defense against bugs. It completely and totally wrecks their nervous system. To mammals it's a stimulant. Elfface posted:And now we farm it in massive quantities. Being delicious to humans - A survival trait Lions are endangered. There are over a billion cows. That also isn't limited to humans, actually. Some species of ant will farm aphids. They will take very, very good care of them and even make sure the aphids never have to walk themselves to another plant. Why? It's because aphids poop out sweet stuff that ants loving love. As long as there's ants there'll be aphids and the ants will made damned sure of that.
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ledge posted:Citation needed, as anecdotally this is not true. http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/x6909e/x6909e04.htm Citation provided.
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swickles posted:Yeah, you can even feed chickens on steady diet of peppers and then they lay eggs with spicy yolks. God I wish this was true.
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Crescent Wrench posted:I love that you are referencing a double blind test and still have the high standards to call it anecdotal. Yeah, although I do admire the scientific instinct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSE_meat
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its hilarious to see sheltered goons freaking out whenever someone who works outside of an office casually mentions a common part of rural life, like "killing animals"
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your friend a dog posted:its hilarious to see sheltered goons freaking out whenever someone who works outside of an office casually mentions a common part of rural life, like "killing animals" It just seems inhumane to kill animals when you could just buy meat from the grocery store...
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:It just seems inhumane to kill animals when you could just buy meat from the grocery store... i cant believe he shot them.... with a gun.... that was NOT in the ROE
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Milo and POTUS posted:God I wish this was true. https://www.newworlder.com/article/3959/dan-barber-feeds-his-chickens-red-peppers-to-make-red-eggs
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Crescent Wrench posted:I love that you are referencing a double blind test and still have the high standards to call it anecdotal. Well, it is just my friend's word, and though he's scientifically minded his methods may have been lacking. Also I don't think he wrote it up and it definitely hasn't been peer reviewed.
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canyoneer posted:http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/x6909e/x6909e04.htm That doesn't include any taste testing as far as I could see. Maybe he was tasting the meat soon enough after killing that the effects of stress weren't pronounced.
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Who What Now posted:Generally not with firearms Home kill of pigs and cattle is generally by firearm. I've raised pigs myself a few times, and by the time they are ready to kill and butcher, there's no loving way I'd attempt to slit their throats. Pigs are pretty strong. We have got in a homekill specialist who shoots them. This is into their skull at point blank range. Death is extremely quick and seems about as painfree a way to go as is possible. He then slits their throat so they can bleed out. Much nicer than going to a slaughterhouse, that's for sure.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Though it backfires sometimes. Case in point; garlic. When the bulb is damaged it creates allicin, which deters bugs and birds from eating it. It’s also what makes it so delicious to humans. Yeah mammals at least aren't meant to be eating that stuff at all, but humans are sadomasochistic lunatics who think that's great eatin'. Checkmate, nature.
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Ms Adequate posted:Yeah mammals at least aren't meant to be eating that stuff at all, but humans are sadomasochistic lunatics who think that's great eatin'. Checkmate, nature. Hell yea! 
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