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Arquinsiel posted:Finally caught up on Warmaster. That's an abrupt ending even for Abnett He`s a wily ol` fucker for sure.
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Apr 14, 2018 00:42
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The trouble is that the pacing for Warmaster is pitch perfect. It just ends two thirds of the way through the story. But those two thirds that make up the whole book are excellent.
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Apr 14, 2018 01:33
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Yeah, that's it exactly. It seems like he skipped the normal "and now Gaunt saves the day" part of the story and the book just ended. Of course now I'm doing the IRL equivalent of  until the next one comes out so job done.
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Apr 14, 2018 01:59
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I just finished Know No Fear and really liked it. I hadn't read anything from Black Library but was fine just knowing the basic timeline of the horus heresy and major players. Now I really want to paint up some mark iii and mark iv armor ultramarines and word bearers. I'm reading the first Eisenhorn book next but will probably want to continue with Horus Heresy afterwards.
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Apr 16, 2018 23:47
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Yeah I really liked Warmaster, though some of the twists were a bit cliche. When is the next Pariah book coming?
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Apr 17, 2018 00:43
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Immanentized posted:Anybody listen to any of the agents of the throne audio dramas? Are they well produced? Yeah, I've listened to both - quite good. I preferred the first, but they're both decent listens. The characters are fun, and there's some good Inquisitorial shenanigans.
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Apr 17, 2018 01:05
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Demiurge4 posted:Yeah I really liked Warmaster, though some of the twists were a bit cliche. More importantly, when are they reprinting Pariah for those of us that missed the first print run? I’m kind of surprised it didn’t get a reprint when Magos came out.
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Apr 17, 2018 02:13
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Booyah- posted:I just finished Know No Fear and really liked it. I hadn't read anything from Black Library but was fine just knowing the basic timeline of the horus heresy and major players. Now I really want to paint up some mark iii and mark iv armor ultramarines and word bearers. If you liked Know No Fear, for the Heresy the books you want next are The First Heretic and Betrayer. One takes place before KNF, the other after, and together those three are the Word Bearers books (with Betrayer doing double duty as the main World Eaters book). The other Heresy books I'd recommend: Horus Rising - first book in the series and start of a trilogy centered on the Luna Wolves. Legion - the Alpha Legion book, I don't like it but lots of folks do so YMMV. Prospero Burns - the Space Wolves book, recommended even if you don't like the Wolves in 40k, they're quite different here. Also Eaters of the Dead in space. A Thousand Sons - the Thousand Sons book, and companion to Prospero Burns. Generally considered worse, but I liked it. Also has the only LGBT character of note to date in the Heresy novels that I've read. Mechanicum - the AdMech book, also has some Necron stuff if that's your gig. Scars - the White Scars book, and a solid entry from a new author.
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Apr 17, 2018 02:51
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Wait, what Necron stuff was in Mechanicum?
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Apr 17, 2018 04:14
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Cythereal posted:If you liked Know No Fear, for the Heresy the books you want next are The First Heretic and Betrayer. One takes place before KNF, the other after, and together those three are the Word Bearers books (with Betrayer doing double duty as the main World Eaters book). Awesome, thanks for this! I'll check out Mechanicum and The First Heretic. Can I read just Horus Rising or do I really need to commit to the full trilogy that book starts?
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Apr 17, 2018 04:28
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Xenomrph posted:Wait, what Necron stuff was in Mechanicum?
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Apr 17, 2018 04:53
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There have been a few hints that some high level magos are actually Necrons pretending to be ex-humans.
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Apr 17, 2018 05:05
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Arquinsiel posted:There have been a few hints that some high level magos are actually Necrons pretending to be ex-humans. Whaaaaat I want to know more this has gone way over my head
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Apr 17, 2018 05:33
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Some of it's in the Games Day exclusive short story books from, IIRC, 2012 or 2013? I dunno where I put them so I can't check now. ETA: TL;DR version: some explorator dudes are investigating a tomb with skitarii, and they start getting horror movie killed one by one. Last explorator alive realises that one of the team was a Flayed One all along when it gloats while killing him, implying that the AdMech is fully infiltrated.
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Apr 17, 2018 05:40
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Booyah- posted:Awesome, thanks for this! I'll check out Mechanicum and The First Heretic. Can I read just Horus Rising or do I really need to commit to the full trilogy that book starts? You can just read Horus Rising - it's the Luna Wolves and Horus encountering daemons for the first time and seeing the roots of why Horus fell. The second book, False Gods, is about Horus' fall and is a boring lovely book. The third, Galaxy in Flames, is the first of many books depicting Istvaan.
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Apr 17, 2018 13:49
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Arquinsiel posted:Some of it's in the Games Day exclusive short story books from, IIRC, 2012 or 2013? I dunno where I put them so I can't check now. 2013 is pre Necron backstory reboot, isn’t it? I mean not that it makes a difference, I’m just curious.
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Apr 17, 2018 17:03
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Xenomrph posted:2013 is pre Necron backstory reboot, isn’t it? Yep. There's also a few other Necron references here and there in 40k, Loken in Horus Rising briefly tells a story about exploring what sure as hell sounds like a Necron tomb world, for example, and IIRC in the tabletop rules it's implied that Alpharius' spear is of Necron origin.
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Apr 17, 2018 18:49
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There's also the Callidus phase blades, which I think was the first time we saw "C'tan" in 40k.
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Apr 17, 2018 19:59
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Are the Callidus assassins the psychic blanks? I think they got tied into the Necron Pariahs, pre Necron reboot (where the Pariahs ceased to exist).
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Apr 17, 2018 20:02
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No, Culexus are the blanks. Callidus are the shapeshifters. And their phase blades are absolutely Necron tech. There's a story somewhere about a Callidus trying to assassinate a governor who actually turns out to be a C'Tan in disguise. Her phase blade is absorbed, and described as a "small piece returning home" While it's not been pointed out anywhere to the best of my knowledge, a Callidus Neural Shredder seems suspiciously like a more crude version of the weapon used by Necron Deathmarks, the Synaptic Disintigrator.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:14
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To be fair though, the Calidus also predates Necrons entirely, and back then the Cadian Gate was a literal gate that let you into the hollow planet Cadia which was full of C'tan gubbinz and AdMech eating monsters.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:18
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Oh sure. I do like that they kept the connections to the necrons after their revamp, and that they made them a bit more subtle. Like giving Deathmarks a more advanced and refined version of the Callidus pistol.
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Apr 17, 2018 20:26
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Groetgaffel posted:Oh sure. The Newcrons also got literal lightning guns in the form of tesla weapons. Shortly afterwards the AdMech got codices with their own lightning guns in the form of arc guns and galvanic guns... Then again, the AdMech in 30k are also toting around either reverse-engineered Dark Eldar weapons (and the Alpha Legion sure as hell are), or they discovered/recovered weapons that work on the same principle as dark lances. Cythereal fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Apr 17, 2018 |
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Apr 17, 2018 20:50
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Today I finished Battle for the Abyss. It was indeed badly written and felt pretty pointless overall. The only real entertainment I derived from it was the result of reading one particular line as if it was referring to a penis, although that perhaps says as much about me as it does about the book. I also finished Mechanicum, which wasn’t as bad but didn’t particularly rock my world either. The man’s prose always seems to get in the way for me, though to his credit he writes augmented beings like tech-priests fairly well – the more mundane/human characters all just felt kind of flat. Not the worst HH novel I’ve read so far, but certainly not the best either. Next up: Fallen Angels and A Thousand Sons!
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Apr 19, 2018 06:52
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MMAgCh posted:Next up: Fallen Angels and A Thousand Sons! Fallen Angel is maybe ok, but Thousand Sons is a great intro to Prospero Burns, and decent in its own right,
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Apr 19, 2018 07:17
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MMAgCh posted:Today I finished Battle for the Abyss. It was indeed badly written and felt pretty pointless overall. The only real entertainment I derived from it was the result of reading one particular line as if it was referring to a penis, although that perhaps says as much about me as it does about the book. Listen don't read all the books many are bad. Skip outcast dead at least for the love of god
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Apr 19, 2018 13:31
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Waroduce posted:Listen don't read all the books many are bad. Skip outcast dead at least for the love of god If they can read Abyss, they can read anything.
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Apr 19, 2018 13:36
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I've read through all the Horus Heresy books without any exception. Pretty sure I didn't get any drain bamage from it. Don't do it, it's not worth it. Maybe if you have an incredible tolerance for garbage and  the books, but probably not even then.
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Apr 19, 2018 13:42
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:If they can read Abyss, they can read anything. I definitely agree with this. Previous to Abyss, I had read Siege of Castellax and Commissar, so I felt like I could take a bad book in stride.
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Apr 19, 2018 15:28
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Well, if you ask me, Nemesis is worse.
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Apr 19, 2018 15:34
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I've read everything by Abnett and ADB now, help me find the next best author they have.
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Apr 20, 2018 06:18
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Bang3r posted:I've read everything by Abnett and ADB now, help me find the next best author they have. The dude who wrote scars Chris wright or something Also the of Mars series is real good. Also you should read eye of terror as a fun one off it feels like ancient warhammer. Or a dnd adventure in warhammer world. Do a shot of Chaos in a space cantina
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Apr 20, 2018 06:53
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Graham McNeil's Mechanicus books. His ultramarines stuff is meh, but he knows how to write robot men.
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Apr 20, 2018 08:09
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Groetgaffel posted:Well, if you ask me, Nemesis is worse. That's because it truly is.
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Apr 20, 2018 10:44
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What should I read after finishing eisenhorn, fifteen hours, and banblade?
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Apr 20, 2018 11:45
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Groetgaffel posted:Well, if you ask me, Nemesis is worse. Nemesis is at least conceptually great.
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Bang3r posted:I've read everything by Abnett and ADB now, help me find the next best author they have. The dude who writes the Caiaphas Cain books. He has a girl's name. Sandi something, I think.
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Libluini posted:The dude who writes the Caiaphas Cain books. He has a girl's name. Sandi something, I think. Sandy Mitchell, they're well made, if slightly repetitive. I'll defend it though. As it fits the style of a written memoir by a person who spent their life writing military reports.
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What was the book about an inquisitor on terra? I think people said it had more stuff about average life in the imperium like the Eisenhorn and Ravenor books
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