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asio posted:two people engaged in criminal activity is "organised crime" doesn't mean old mate with a property next to the national forest and connections in town is rolling in billions of black market dollars No but what if for example there are many old mates with connections across the country? Would they feasibly be able to generate a billion between them?
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Wrageowrapper posted:As someone who has never taken drugs this may seem a little naive but how does one take medicinal marijuana? If its smoked isn't that a little counter-productive to ones health? If its legalised would the AMA be able to dictate how its consumed? Cause it seems they may have some issues with smoking. Wikipedia posted:Smoking is the means of administration of cannabis for many consumers, and the most common method of medical cannabis consumption in the US as of 2013. It is difficult to predict the pharmacological response to cannabis because concentration of cannabinoids varies widely as there are different ways of preparing cannabis for consumption (smoked, applied as oils, eaten, infused into other foods, or drunk) and a lack of production controls. The potential for adverse effects from smoke inhalation makes smoking a less viable option than oral preparations.
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Apr 17, 2018 01:51
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Dimebag posted:No but what if for example there are many old mates with connections across the country? Would they feasibly be able to generate a billion between them? Probably not if they’re competing with a regulated nationwide industry
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Apr 17, 2018 01:54
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asio posted:Government monopoly on one of the only industries that reliably keeps people off the streets bad. i'm reeling from the heat of this take
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Apr 17, 2018 01:54
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Wrageowrapper posted:As someone who has never taken drugs this may seem a little naive but how does one take medicinal marijuana? If its smoked isn't that a little counter-productive to ones health? If its legalised would the AMA be able to dictate how its consumed? Cause it seems they may have some issues with smoking. Stop being such a loving bore and smoke some weed dude
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Apr 17, 2018 01:56
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Won't someone think of the unemployable stoners who are that way because they're always stoned.
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Apr 17, 2018 01:57
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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:Probably not if they’re competing with a regulated nationwide industry I mean black market tobacco is allegedly worth $1.6 Billion per year, so yes? Via SMH
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Apr 17, 2018 01:57
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Dimebag posted:I mean black market tobacco is allegedly worth $1.6 Billion per year, so yes? That figure includes all tobacco imported into the country illegally including packets of tailors smuggled in and resold so that’s a pretty disingenuous number in this context my dude And yet tobacco companies still survive and make a gently caress tonne of money in spite of it
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Apr 17, 2018 02:06
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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:I keep hearing this as a reason decriminalisation and legalisation are mutually exclusive but we let people brew and drink their own beer and yet somehow alcohol taxes are still collected Yes but it will be easier to put the taxation into the new thing as a federally regulated thing than like liquor which is state regulated and had a big mix of old legalisation. Dimebag posted:You tax the gently caress out of the initial seed purchase and any specialised or hydrophobic equipment? Wouldn't be as much revenue as selling through chemists but it would be better than the nothing they get now. It would be but why miss out on the opportunity to cash in on taxing bassed on quantity sold as well. Hell we could work in some home made processing and get in on the medicinal market to help prop up the economy. Taxing the seeds is a good idea but it will be easy to avoid once you car people legally growing their own. Also taxing equipment is a bit too broad because other enterprise may want that kind of equipment.
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Apr 17, 2018 02:20
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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:That figure includes all tobacco imported into the country illegally including packets of tailors smuggled in and resold so that’s a pretty disingenuous number in this context my dude That's a fair point, however in the article is talks about seizures of locally grown tobacco with ~$20 Million street value so while it may not be a cool billion it's still quite a chunk of lost tax revenue. That figure is only what has been found as well so not taking into account what else could be out there. Like I said in an earlier post, if there is such a large part of the pot supply chain that is reliant on growing to stay off the streets why not use the coop business model to ensure those people are not put out on the street.
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Apr 17, 2018 02:20
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Can't wait for expensive Monsanto terminator gene weed
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bell jar posted:Stop being such a loving bore and smoke some weed dude As someone who works in multiple positions with 0 drug and alcohol tollerence policies even if I wanted to smoke I couldn't. I can't have a couple of beer on weekends that I'm on call which sucks in major events where what I really want is a beer after the day is done but you never know if someone is going to call you up after you think your done and go "Man if you're free poo poo hit the fan again" at which point you fell like a right cock if you go "Uuh I can't."
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Apr 17, 2018 02:41
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JBP posted:Can't wait for expensive Monsanto terminator gene weed Wish they'd terminate your posts m8
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Gridlocked posted:As someone who works in multiple positions with 0 drug and alcohol tollerence policies even if I wanted to smoke I couldn't. lol if you follow those. do you even get tested
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Anidav posted:
QLD LNP love jumping the gun on this poo poo, this is the third thing I’ve heard directly from LNP sources this year alone that blows up over a completely imaginary point wrt gender politics
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The Before Times posted:Q&A are doing a 'peoples panel' lol So they are going to get some self important fuckwits who don’t know poo poo about gently caress instead of the usual q&a in which
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Apr 17, 2018 03:24
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bell jar posted:lol if you follow those. do you even get tested I do, frequently. I'm also curious as to the impacts of weed on lung health when smoked. How carcinogenic is it I wonder. Weed brownies for all.
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Apr 17, 2018 03:26
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tithin posted:Wish they'd terminate your posts m8 My posts are free range and locally sourced from ethical farmers markets
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bell jar posted:lol if you follow those. do you even get tested Honestly I've only been tested once at work and once at the other thubf but a big part of it is about integrity. Like when you sign on part of the deal is you're declaring you have a BAC of 0 and no non-perscription drugs in your system. Also before starting ops you have to tell your superior if you're on prescription drugs incase they wish to reassign you. Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Apr 17, 2018 |
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JBP posted:My posts are free range and locally sourced from ethical farmers markets That explains why they keep turning up covered in poo poo.
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hooman posted:I do, frequently. It's not ideal, but it's also not smoking twenty darts a day. Smashing a few bongs a week is probably doing less damage than old carpeting.
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hooman posted:I do, frequently. Christ dude that sucks. Glad to work in a job where people don't really give a poo poo about what you do outside work. What do you do?? Gridlocked posted:Honestly I've only been tested once at work and once at the other thubf but a big part of it is about integrity. Like when you sign on part of the deal is you're declaring you have a BAC of 0 and no non-perscription drugs in your system. Also before starting ops you have to tell your superior if you're on prescription drugs incase they wish to reassign you.  This sounds awful, why would you need to disclose your medication to your superiors. What could you possibly be doing that's that important
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bell jar posted:Christ dude that sucks. Glad to work in a job where people don't really give a poo poo about what you do outside work. What do you do?? Emergency services operations. Yay know floods and cyclones. Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Apr 17, 2018 |
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JBP posted:It's not ideal, but it's also not smoking twenty darts a day. Smashing a few bongs a week is probably doing less damage than old carpeting. Thanks for the info, I hadn't seen any research on it and suspected it wasn't particularly harmful because I hadn't seen screaming about the harm of dope from people who hate fun. bell jar posted:Christ dude that sucks. Glad to work in a job where people don't really give a poo poo about what you do outside work. What do you do?? I'm an offshore project engineer. I get alcohol tested every time I get on a flight to site or walk onto a vessel and drug tested randomly in the office and offshore.
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hooman posted:I'm an offshore project engineer. I get alcohol tested every time I get on a flight to site or walk onto a vessel and drug tested randomly in the office and offshore. Gridlocked posted:Emergency services operations. Yay know floods and cyclones. Both of yall have my condolences, I do my best work stoned out of my gourd (allegedly)
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hooman posted:I do, frequently. many of the carcinogens in weed are water soluble so a bong makes it somewhat safer.
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Malcolm Turnbeug posted:QLD LNP love jumping the gun on this poo poo, this is the third thing I’ve heard directly from LNP sources this year alone that blows up over a completely imaginary point wrt gender politics Nobody tell them you can already put 'X' for gender on your passport, somebody will have a fit.
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bell jar posted:Both of yall have my condolences, I do my best work stoned out of my gourd (allegedly) I also don't get paid for it
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Laserface posted:many of the carcinogens in weed are water soluble so a bong makes it somewhat safer. Also greater availability of weed may mean that those who like to spin their weed with baccy to make it go further would no longer do so. That would be a happy side effect of legalisation.
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Dimebag posted:Also greater availability of weed may mean that those who like to spin their weed with baccy to make it go further would no longer do so. That would be a happy side effect of legalisation. vaporizing is more efficient than smoking also. you can run the same weed through a vape at varying temps to get more out of it, or cook edibles/make oils with the vaped stuff also.
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Laserface posted:vaporizing is more efficient than smoking also. you can run the same weed through a vape at varying temps to get more out of it, or cook edibles/make oils with the vaped stuff also. Yeah those Essential Oil Diffusers(for customs reasons) are pretty good.
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Anidav posted:
Aren't there legitimate medical instances where a baby may have both sets of sexual organs? Or for it to be difficult to determine their biological gender? I ask because I can see that coming up long before some super woke couple try to say their baby doesn't conform to your stereotypes, man.
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bell jar posted:Both of yall have my condolences, I do my best work stoned out of my gourd (allegedly) It honestly doesn't worry me, I've been doing it 8 years now, and I barely drink any more as it is. I drank enough for a lifetime in the first half of my 20's.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Aren't there legitimate medical instances where a baby may have both sets of sexual organs? Or for it to be difficult to determine their biological gender? I ask because I can see that coming up long before some super woke couple try to say their baby doesn't conform to your stereotypes, man. Intersex is a legitimate medical thing that would probably come up for a doctor at some point, yes.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Aren't there legitimate medical instances where a baby may have both sets of sexual organs? Or for it to be difficult to determine their biological gender? I ask because I can see that coming up long before some super woke couple try to say their baby doesn't conform to your stereotypes, man. Yep there are a multitude of intersex conditions which blur the lines of the biological sex binary. The 'you have to have M or F on the certificate!!!' mindset is what has caused scores of infants over the years to have unnecessary invasive procedures to align their body parts with the birth certificate. Lots of people have made it well into adulthood without knowing they are intersex, only to have it come up when they're trying to have kids.
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but the conservatives (and others like them) like to ignore it because it undermines their arguments that the bits you're born with should determine your role in life
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You can consume cannabis in an infinite number of ways. E.g. tincture (out of vegetable glycerine) is good on ice cream Or you can infuse coconut oil and use it in salad dressing Or buttered toast and vegemite for breakfast Etc etc My point about the drug syndicate boogeyman thing is that the policy is half good and half bad, and the bad half is based on validating the boogeyman cliche. Letting people grow their own cannabis is good. Fighting crime by turning the industry into a government monopoly is bad. People take drugs to escape. "Prevention" comes from living in an equitable society where people are valued. Removing independence in the cannabis industry does not help prevention. A government program funded by the cannabis industry to encourage people to not consume cannabis is some "be all you can be" straight-edge humanism nonsense. Specifically to JBP: your posting narrative is that you are wealthy, ok so your dealer is an international syndicate, seems legit. I'm talking more "middle australia"
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asio posted:Specifically to JBP: your posting narrative is that you are wealthy, ok so your dealer is an international syndicate, seems legit. I'm talking more "middle australia" I'm fuckin salt of the earth mate. It's not international, it's the local trade around Footscray which I access by virtue of having a local Macedonian partner. All her mates sell or buy from the same group and it's gangs that have the bulk buys. Remember the kid that was trying to horn in on the weed business in Clayton or whatever and get shot in the head?
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