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By all means keep independence in the industry but slap on a good tax and ensure there is enough public advisory regarding the negative effects similar to alcohol and tobacco. Have regulation of sale and supply, and public use again similar to alcohol. I understand a number of people will be very opposed to this but  my two cents.
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I think asio might be a weed entrepreneur and doesn't want RDN loving up his gruelling four hour working week.
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Apr 17, 2018 05:08
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JBP posted:I'm fuckin salt of the earth mate. It's not international, it's the local trade around Footscray which I access by virtue of having a local Macedonian partner. All her mates sell or buy from the same group and it's gangs that have the bulk buys. I appreciate your attachment to your social class and apologise for offending you. It sounds like the problems of unregulated international trade are having an effect on your community's aspirations. Could a solution be found without turning cannabis into a government monopoly while still offering opportunities for people to escape poverty? I'm also sorry you live so far away from northern NSW.
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Apr 17, 2018 05:09
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JBP posted:I think asio might be a weed entrepreneur and doesn't want RDN loving up his gruelling four hour working week. Nope I want medicinal cannabis to be as freely available as possible. I'm trying to impart the lessons learned from the medicinal campaign into the recreational campaign
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Apr 17, 2018 05:11
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Gridlocked posted:By all means keep independence in the industry but slap on a good tax and ensure there is enough public advisory regarding the negative effects similar to alcohol and tobacco. Have regulation of sale and supply, and public use again similar to alcohol. I think you are pretty spot on, make it so the point of sale is somewhere that currently are set up to deal with large amounts of pharmaceuticals securely, chemists. This would given them something new to sell that isn't lovely wooden toys/rascist dolls. If it's more of an open market allow "farmers markets" or co-ops to be set up with regulation so local growers can still make money off their crop or allow them to sell into chemists directly. Given its new legislation make the minimum age 21 which would go some way to counter the developing brains should not be on drugs argument. Allow use of weed in licenced premises(not likely as the AHA would pitch a fit if they lose revenue on alcohol to weed unfortunately) in smoking areas, this way you could have a joint at a gig in the smoking area. Don't allow it on the street similar to the way tobacco smoking is going giving a small fine that's more of a nuisance than crippling like $75 or so. Use the public advisory board to develop a test for drug driving that is related to impairment rather than presence and take the money that's being flushed down the toilet each year on sniffer dogs, detective work and in the courts back into health and education. Then use all of the above to work out harm minimisation techniques for more powerful drugs. Maybe smash some capitalism along the way?
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Apr 17, 2018 05:31
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Remember the time that kid in Melbourne murdered a hobo and when interrogated by the cops told them he was hunting werewolves? That's right friends. He smoked weed.
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Apr 17, 2018 05:37
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Was it laced with bath salts?
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Apr 17, 2018 05:40
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amateur. he should have been drinking coloidal silver to protect him from the werewolves.
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Apr 17, 2018 05:56
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Dimebag posted:I think you are pretty spot on, make it so the point of sale is somewhere that currently are set up to deal with large amounts of pharmaceuticals securely, chemists. This would given them something new to sell that isn't lovely wooden toys/rascist dolls. If it's more of an open market allow "farmers markets" or co-ops to be set up with regulation so local growers can still make money off their crop or allow them to sell into chemists directly. But how will we bash kids with batons at music festivals!
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hooman posted:But how will we bash kids with batons at music festivals! What about drunken boomers at Vinyard based concerts?
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Apr 17, 2018 06:03
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JBP posted:Remember the time that kid in Melbourne murdered a hobo and when interrogated by the cops told them he was hunting werewolves? I was unaware smoking weed led to lycanthropy, had the Hobo bitten anyone? Dimebag posted:I think you are pretty spot on, make it so the point of sale is somewhere that currently are set up to deal with large amounts of pharmaceuticals securely, chemists. This would given them something new to sell that isn't lovely wooden toys/rascist dolls. If it's more of an open market allow "farmers markets" or co-ops to be set up with regulation so local growers can still make money off their crop or allow them to sell into chemists directly. We don't have smoking areas in WA, do other states actually still let smoker just smoke it up around all the normal people?
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Apr 17, 2018 06:14
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Dimebag posted:What about drunken boomers at Vinyard based concerts? They park cop cars on the freeway and book them all. Except they actually don't book anyone and just make it a 3 hour trip home. I recall after Springsteen they booked 6 people and the cops got on tv berating attendees even though the other 20,000 drank then drove responsibly lol.
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Konomex posted:We don't have smoking areas in WA, do other states actually still let smoker just smoke it up around all the normal people? I think here in NSW the pubs have to nominate an area, it's either food or smoking but most of the time they stick a few potted plants in the middle of the outdoor area and make sure the smoking area is furthest from the door.
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Apr 17, 2018 06:33
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Gorilla Salad posted:
This genuinely warms the cockles of my heart.
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Apr 17, 2018 06:39
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Shame it wasn't the CEO's house/car/face
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Apr 17, 2018 06:51
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Whitlam posted:This genuinely warms the cockles of my heart. I can only imagine the breathless sprint to condemn union thugs / crack down / smash all unions from the media if this happened in Australia when frankly, this seems like a pretty fair reaction.
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Apr 17, 2018 07:39
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Konomex posted:I was unaware smoking weed led to lycanthropy, had the Hobo bitten anyone? I've smoked weed AND bath salts, and never killed any hobos, Also some places do still have smoking areas, they're just far less common than some states.
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Apr 17, 2018 07:53
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Victoria I think has to choose between outdoor dining or smoking, so cafes in the area around work have to declare their allegiance to coffee smokers or brunchers and/or put up stupid clock signs saying when you can eat and when you can smoke.
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Apr 17, 2018 08:00
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asio posted:Because most growers are stoners who got into the business to offset personal use costs. All this "black market bikie" poo poo is ... poo poo. Cannabis is too bulky to be worthwhile for the cartoon criminal syndicate the media invented and the greens believe exist. Actual bikies sell meth. Do you have any evidence for any of this or are you just making poo poo up?
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Apr 17, 2018 08:00
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G-Spot Run posted:Victoria I think has to choose between outdoor dining or smoking, so cafes in the area around work have to declare their allegiance to coffee smokers or brunchers and/or put up stupid clock signs saying when you can eat and when you can smoke. In Vic you can't smoke anywhere that food is served. https://www2.health.vic.gov.au/public-health/tobacco-reform/smoke-free-areas/outdoor-dining
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Apr 17, 2018 08:02
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Periphery posted:Do you have any evidence for any of this or are you just making poo poo up? He's probably neighbours with Chris Hemsworth and doesn't have to entertain that it takes concerted criminal effort to supply contraband reliably to a population of 4m people.
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Apr 17, 2018 08:04
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Periphery posted:In Vic you can't smoke anywhere that food is served. https://www2.health.vic.gov.au/public-health/tobacco-reform/smoke-free-areas/outdoor-dining You can still use the clock system can't you? Or was that a perceived loophole?
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Apr 17, 2018 08:04
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Dimebag posted:I think you are pretty spot on, make it so the point of sale is somewhere that currently are set up to deal with large amounts of pharmaceuticals securely, chemists. This would given them something new to sell that isn't lovely wooden toys/rascist dolls. If it's more of an open market allow "farmers markets" or co-ops to be set up with regulation so local growers can still make money off their crop or allow them to sell into chemists directly. I'd actually go the American way and have shops specifically set up to sell and store. It would be easier for legislation to be met if you're not layering it ontop of others. The age issue is defiantly the way to go though there is the question of how this will interact with your next idea of licensed venues given they are shared with 18 year olds. Of course as with everything it should be up to the venue to decide if people can use on their premises. This will let some venues specialise in services and others not to. The whole passive smoke thing will be a big deal obviously. Regarding street use don't treat it like smokes treat it like booze. Won't stop people from putting it in rollies but hey. Also don't stop the dogs because you can still nab people for dealing without the appropriate licence but now you have a whole industry on your side going "stop cutting into our profits". Home growers or small outlets can operate like wineries.
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Gridlocked posted:Also don't stop the dogs because you can still nab people for dealing without the appropriate licence but now you have a whole industry on your side going "stop cutting into our profits". Home growers or small outlets can operate like wineries. Yeah but the main issue with dogs currently are false positives, what would this be like when weed is legal and you are getting positives where people have weed on them legally? Just like now no-one is riding the train through Sydney with pounds of weed on them, you may get someone with an ounce for personal use but your not going to catch Mr Big. How would you differentiate between someone with an ounce of store bought weed and someone with an ounce of black market weed? Check the receipts? That's making the cops store security with dogs.
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Gridlocked posted:Also don't stop the dogs because you can still nab people for dealing without the appropriate licence but now you have a whole industry on your side going "stop cutting into our profits". Home growers or small outlets can operate like wineries. Dogs alert inaccurately like 77% of the time You idiot You loving moron
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Apr 17, 2018 08:17
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G-Spot Run posted:Victoria I think has to choose between outdoor dining or smoking, so cafes in the area around work have to declare their allegiance to coffee smokers or brunchers and/or put up stupid clock signs saying when you can eat and when you can smoke. Most places just tell the smokers to gently caress off which is a winning system imo
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Apr 17, 2018 08:29
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Not true near me. But then I work near a hospital with an all-hours pre-cancer ward on the footpath beyond the front doors.
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Apr 17, 2018 09:23
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Periphery posted:In Vic you can't smoke anywhere that food is served. https://www2.health.vic.gov.au/public-health/tobacco-reform/smoke-free-areas/outdoor-dining You can't in Tassie either. Several pubs get around it by delivering your food to a table just outside the smoking area and telling you it's there. They can't do anything if you take your own food into the smoking area Friendly Fire fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Apr 17, 2018 |
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Why is Trinity Grammar now on the TV news in Adelaide, what the gently caress is wrong with you Victoria
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Apr 17, 2018 09:56
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Wow at the NT government turbo loving the environment and reallowing fracking
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Apr 17, 2018 10:01
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https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/986155966017105920 Peta Credlin having a meltdown about 4 mins in.
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Anidav posted:Wow at the NT government turbo loving the environment and reallowing fracking WHY I STUCK A FRACKER IN MY CLACKER
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/986155966017105920
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Dimebag posted:Yeah but the main issue with dogs currently are false positives, what would this be like when weed is legal and you are getting positives where people have weed on them legally? That is a valid point. I was thinking along the lines of the similar set of offences in some states now where there is a threshold for how much is on your person to decide between if it's for personal use or if you're dealing. Yeah you're not catching Mr Big with it, but you're keeping the industry (hopefully) faithful that the government is caring about supporting them in their business. If you're going to tax it for the dosh you're gonna be picturing all those deals as cash you're losing out on. But I maybe thinking too small term. Don Dongington posted:Dogs alert inaccurately like 77% of the time Source your quotes I would blow Dane Cook posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/986155966017105920 4:30 shows two people in an echo chamber inside a speedo garbage fire.
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Apr 17, 2018 10:30
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Is Peta Credlin a news presenter lmao
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Apr 17, 2018 10:33
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JBP posted:Is Peta Credlin a news presenter lmao IIRC following the whole scandal she did some bits on well known even and fair news channel SkyNews along side well known smart man Andrew Bolt and they offered her own segment.
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Apr 17, 2018 10:38
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JBP posted:You can still use the clock system can't you? Or was that a perceived loophole? No idea (I haven't ever heard of the clock system before). That link seems pretty clear cut but I haven't paid too much attention to the changes except to laugh at smokers when they complain.
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I smoke but I don't like it. As Keanu Reeves says "it's a prison". At least I can derive amusement when smoker crack it or whatever. Don't make everyone else's life miserable... There are still plenty of places to smoke should you walk the entire 5 meter journey away from the shop.
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