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Diva Cupcake posted:Breer's latest... Ah, Browns listening to hobos again.
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Alaois posted:Sam Darnold was talked up as the top draft pick after his redshirt Freshman year. He's real good
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Apr 17, 2018 22:39
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Apr 17, 2018 22:48
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Gatts posted:What are the chances Lamar Jackson falls to round 2? Really low, but not zero. Still a lot of institutional stupidity & bias in the NFL.
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Probably Magic posted:Ah, Browns listening to hobos again. Nah just porn stars https://twitter.com/jennajameson/status/976962543422853120
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Nah just porn stars As if we needed more reminding of how much NFL owners love Trump.
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Apr 17, 2018 23:06
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Nah just porn stars She clearly means Josh, as in Josh Rosen, at number 1; then Allen, as in Allen Lazard, at number 4. Smart girl
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Coldforge posted:Really low, but not zero. Still a lot of institutional stupidity & bias in the NFL. I'm wondering about the odds of going 1. Barkley 4. Chubb/Fitzpatrick 33. Lamar Jackson 35. Isaiah Oliver/Carlton Davis CB Or somehow drop 4 to 6-8 and still end up with Fitzpatrick/Chubb and get another next year's 1st rounder.
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Gatts posted:I'm wondering about the odds of going 1. Barkley 4. Chubb/Fitzpatrick 33. Lamar Jackson 35. Isaiah Oliver/Carlton Davis CB You should want your team to get their preferred QB, not the "best value" at QB. It's too important a position. Even if their preferred QB is Josh Allen, I guess.  Regardless, it's nine days away. Just have some patience and you won't need to worry about odds.
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Ehud posted:I hate that Mayfield is gonna be a Jet Mayfield makes sense to the Jets from every possible standpoint (scheme, head coach, non-liberal Jew, the actual opposite of Hackenberg) other than this front office being super tight lipped about every loving thing. And everyone has Mayfield to the Jets. So it’s probably not going to happen.
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Gatts posted:What are the chances Lamar Jackson falls to round 2? 0% If Lamar falls, someone will trade back into the 1st for the fifth year option
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In today's episode of things that will never happen the Bengals have been linked to Lamar Jackson at pick 21
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Gatts posted:What are the chances Lamar Jackson falls to round 2? I would be really shocked if the Saints passed on him at 27 unless someone insane fell into their lap.
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Gatts posted:What are the chances Lamar Jackson falls to round 2? Saints for sure I'd think, now that Drew Brees is a year older and they barely just missed on Pat Mahomes.
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Don't forget the very real possibility that even if Lamar does fall to the late 20s-30s, some team would likely trade back into the first for him to get that 5th year option. I don't see any way he makes it to the 2nd round
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ShakeZula posted:Don't forget the very real possibility that even if Lamar does fall to the late 20s-30s, some team would likely trade back into the first for him to get that 5th year option. I don't see any way he makes it to the 2nd round Correct call! People forget about the option all the time. That one year of potential 10-15 million dollar savings in your cap is easily worth a 4
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QB Ball Velocity This is my favorite kind of stat, one with almost no correlation to results outside of hitting some minimum level.
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mcmagic posted:You would actually have to give Dorsey credit if he takes Allen... EVERYONE is going to say he's an idiot and if somehow Allen works out, he's going to look like a genius. Taking Darnold is soooooooooo much more the path of least resistance and the CYA pick that can't really be criticized. If you take Darnold and he doesn’t work out, nobody will blame you. The same will not be said of Allen who is clearly a giant project. What about the Browns has shown you they know how to develop a project QB?
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Kalli posted:QB Ball Velocity Yeah it seems like everyone in the mid 50s is just fine but once you get down to the 53 area there are quite a few busts. I saw a little video where Mahomes threw 62 mph so I wonder how they get these readings. Bigass Moth posted:If you take Darnold and he doesn’t work out, nobody will blame you. The same will not be said of Allen who is clearly a giant project. What about the Browns has shown you they know how to develop a project QB? I hope they do take Allen because either way it turns out it'll be really funny
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Kalli posted:QB Ball Velocity Does this chart have a page 2? I want to find Deshaun Watson.
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Play posted:Yeah it seems like everyone in the mid 50s is just fine but once you get down to the 53 area there are quite a few busts. Edit nm can’t find a working video. Odd. Amy Pole Her fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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Oh wait here it is http://www.stack.com/a/josh-allen-threw-a-66-14-mph-pass-at-the-senior-bowl-no-qb-at-the-nfl-combine-has-ever-exceeded-60
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LiquidFriend posted:He felt invisible pressure before Suh violated his innocence in the rain, but after that game...whatever the football equivalent of being shook is, he was that. I was so mad when the Jags took him. JJ was the very next pick. 
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Diva Cupcake posted:Mayfield makes sense to the Jets from every possible standpoint (scheme, head coach, non-liberal Jew, the actual opposite of Hackenberg) other than this front office being super tight lipped about every loving thing. And everyone has Mayfield to the Jets. So it’s probably not going to happen. Rosen and Mayfield both make sense for the Jets.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I think the key quote is: you know who else isn't from inside the browns building? homeless dudes. checkbook it
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Kalli posted:QB Ball Velocity I refuse to believe that Jared Goff and Jameis Winston weren't switched.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Because of that other draft thread I started looking into some of the mid-round players. What do you guys know of / think of CB Quenton Meeks, DT Derrick Nnadi, and OT Alex Cappa? DJ Moore is the second best WR in the draft, behind only DOCTOR SUICIDE Anthony Miller
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I thought Allen was a 62 and Mayfield was a 60 at the combine velocity measurements. http://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-2018-NFL-Combine/10241/dh/
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Coldforge posted:I think the rose colored glasses are your own. Gabbert was one of those fast "flash in the pan" draft risers, mostly due to Luck deciding to stay another year at Stanford & the player lockout. Oh boy is this wrong. Darnold's been talked about as a top pick since the PSU game so about two years. Gabbert wasn't a flash in the pan draft riser. No one thought he would declare so when he did everyone scrambled and threw him in the top 25. Let's not do revisionist history here. LiquidFriend posted:I'm not talking about post-draft Blaine Gabbert at all, beyond a question of him.starting right away in Jacksonville. That's weird considering you only talked about post-draft Gabbert. I can compare Darnold to a bunch of hulking QBs with decent velocity too, he just reminds me of Gabbert which I don't think is an insult. I could also call him Blake Bortles or Jacoby Brissett too if it makes you feel better about comparisons.
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Doltos posted:Oh boy is this wrong. Darnold's been talked about as a top pick since the PSU game so about two years. Gabbert wasn't a flash in the pan draft riser. No one thought he would declare so when he did everyone scrambled and threw him in the top 25. Let's not do revisionist history here. Two years is what I said. And you’re still wrong about Gabbert.
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If Ball Velocity matters, does this mean that the NBA players are superior Tight Ends and Baseball Pitchers will make the best QBs? Does this mean wrestlers will make the best line backers because they can suplex the opposition?
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Coldforge posted:Two years is what I said. And you’re still wrong about Gabbert. NUH UH
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Arguing over yo gabba gabbert like 2 sorority coeds. This truly is peak offseason.
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Gatts posted:What are the chances Lamar Jackson falls to round 2? someone gonna move up to 18 to get him
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Doltos posted:That's weird considering you only talked about post-draft Gabbert. I can compare Darnold to a bunch of hulking QBs with decent velocity too, he just reminds me of Gabbert which I don't think is an insult. I could also call him Blake Bortles or Jacoby Brissett too if it makes you feel better about comparisons. LiquidFriend fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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Gabbert has a 71.5 QB rating for his career, he's on 4th team in 7 seasons, and you don't think comparing the possible #1 pick to him is negative?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Gabbert has a 71.5 QB rating for his career, he's on 4th team in 7 seasons, and you don't think comparing the possible #1 pick to him is negative? As draft prospect to draft prospect. Thanks for missing the point. LiquidFriend posted:What? No. If you think Gabbert suddenly got invisible pressure panic after leaving Missouri, I have no loving idea what to tell you. Gabbert and Darnold aren't similar at all. You think Darnold doesn't get panicked? https://imgur.com/LgsqwKt https://imgur.com/4nvTPSC Looks similar to me. But let's look at their actual throwing motions and feet placement: https://imgur.com/rlJn115 https://imgur.com/0iuNQTX Pretty similar again. Maybe let's look at another angle just to be sure. https://imgur.com/jM7WieN https://imgur.com/YZ39Ov7 Seems like the same angles on his front leg and dragging his back foot. Gabbert shoves it while Darnold points the ball down before slinging it. That's their difference. Oh and just going through this Darnold highlight video I found a bunch of examples of him ditching his pocket though that seems to be more on his line and all the RPOs they run. He's definitely got experience creating outside the pocket.
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This guy out an incredible amount of work into his mock and it makes me wanna vomit https://docs.google.com/document/d/10f-mhamCqfZ0zpLPfNkq52GALUCUCW8LfYqZ1hGBYBs
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Doltos posted:As draft prospect to draft prospect. Thanks for missing the point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNgBxkvwEyY Took off from a clean pocket where the blitzer was properly picked up, ran right into pressure and had a total mechanical breakdown to throw the game sealing INT. It really wasn't just the ugly moments that were red flags. Playing in a spread where Gary Pinkel chopped the field in half to learning an unorthodox playing style from OC David Yost are other reasons. Gabbert had a great arm, but Pinkel's Offense never asked him to make a lot of difficult throws so we never really had a good idea how accurate he could be. That's before mentioning lolbig12defenses. His ugly play after that Oklahoma game really enhanced the surprise that he declared for the draft that year. Actually wait, the Suh game was the year before but ya Nebraska owned him again the next year too. LiquidFriend fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Apr 18, 2018 |
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Blitz7x posted:This guy out an incredible amount of work into his mock and it makes me wanna vomit Packers getting St. Brown in the 3rd gives me a Chubb.
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