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HEY NONG MAN posted:I don’t think most states charge taxes for unprepared food. Colorado did when I lived there from 2005-2006 and 2013-2017.
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Apr 18, 2018 00:51
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Star Man posted:Colorado did when I lived there from 2005-2006 and 2013-2017. No they didn't (although it's quite possible the city you lived in did). The only state sales taxes that hit unprepared food at the full rate are AL/MS/SD/ID/OK/HI (HI technically not a sales tax). TN/IL/MO/VA/AR/UT also tax but at a partial rate. Then some others like NC/GA have no state but always local. Then some others like CO/SC have no state but permissively allow local.
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Apr 18, 2018 00:59
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:Sugar in America has never been cheap compared to the rest of the world due to trade protections put in place near the founding of the country and has always been abundant aside from ww1 and ww2 rationing. The past ten or so years haven't seen an especially cheap sugar either, in the 60's it got down to less than 2 cents a lb compared to 13 in 1919 and 12 today. I suspect your correlation is even stronger when looking at sedentary lifestyle. Why yes, if you want to willfully ignore that the greater amount of sweetener used in processed foods is sugar in the form of HFCS and unaffected by the price of cane or beet sugar while strongly incentovized by the subsidies given to corn growers!
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Apr 18, 2018 01:02
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Star Man posted:In Wyoming, we don't pay sales tax for food that isn't prepared. It's been that way since 2006. With Amazon I have found it depends not on the amount, but who and where things get shipped. If it is fulfilled directly by Amazon through their warehouses in Minnesota (the state I live) then sales tax applies. If it is fulfilled by Amazon but not through a Minnesota fulfillment center, or a third party (directly, not via Amazon fulfillment), then sales tax doesn't apply. Amazon also does its billing by fulfiller so even in a single order what items gets taxed or not depends on where it is being fulfilled. This also results in multiple charges to your account, but that usually shouldn't matter.
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Apr 18, 2018 01:24
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EugeneJ posted:https://twitter.com/jwbank/status/986377174767820800 Washington Prime Group and CBL Properties are both very exposed to a Bon-Ton liquidation. 25% of their malls have one as an anchor store.
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Apr 18, 2018 01:38
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Liquid Communism posted:Why yes, if you want to willfully ignore that the greater amount of sweetener used in processed foods is sugar in the form of HFCS and unaffected by the price of cane or beet sugar while strongly incentovized by the subsidies given to corn growers! Cool more ignorance. HFCS use is a) on a massive decline since 1999, faster than caloric sweeteners as a whole - while all caloric sweetener is down over 15%, HFCS use is down 35% b) not cheap because of subsidies, it costs more because of subsidies since subsidies for corn primarily raise its price to ensure profitability for corn farmers c) HFCS' price is only at all competitive with other sugars because all sugars have their prices raised by the tariffs. d) HFCS use only became large in the first place because other forms of sugar production could not make up for the imbalance between American demand and supply once the tariffs and import restrictions of the 70s were introduced. The tariffs et al were intended to boost the domestic sugarcane and sugarbeet industry, but they proved incapable of expanding production enough. This information on price isn't hidden or secret. The USDA makes it all available. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/sugar-and-sweeteners-yearbook-tables.aspx Let's do a quick comparison for the cents per pound dry weight spot price as of March 2018: HFCS-42 (least sweet common ratio before it stops being high fructose): 34.86 cents HFCS-55 (most common to use as a 1:1 replacement for table sugar): 39.27 cents Import raw sugar with tariffs paid: 24.73 cents Midwest refined beet sugar: 36 cents (The USDA does not track refined sugar prices for imported sugar separate from locally sourced sugar, their prices once refined are very close together as essentially interchangeable goods.) And here's a comparison from the world market, refined sugar spot price per dry pound at London: 15.94 cents
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Apr 18, 2018 01:58
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xrunner posted:No they didn't (although it's quite possible the city you lived in did). The only state sales taxes that hit unprepared food at the full rate are AL/MS/SD/ID/OK/HI (HI technically not a sales tax). TN/IL/MO/VA/AR/UT also tax but at a partial rate. Then some others like NC/GA have no state but always local. Then some others like CO/SC have no state but permissively allow local. The City and County of Denver and the surrounding area.
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Apr 18, 2018 02:53
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Here is the Riddle of Obesity Globally: People are eating more of everything, it's easier than ever to get calorie dense foods, and they aren't moving as much. There is no one magic thing that is causing it alone, and Fishmech is not just technically right, but right.
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Apr 18, 2018 04:34
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KiteAuraan posted:Fishmech is not just technically right, but right. Let's not go crazy here.
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Apr 18, 2018 05:00
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Like people just need to deal with the fact that mass elimination of starvation requires things (namely cheap food and relatively ok wages in comparison to said food) that allow people to eat themselves quite fat. Things like complaining you can buy a $7.50 meal that has 1500 calories in it? Well for someone's who's broke getting one of those a day with maybe some cheap snacks the rest of the day equals not starving. For someone who's not on the biting edge of poverty, having those meals a few times a week saves some time and doesn't really bring them out of healthy weights. While your buddy Chet who sits around the office all day and has 3 of those meals daily is going to tub the gently caress up from it.
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Apr 18, 2018 05:37
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KiteAuraan posted:Here is the Riddle of Obesity Globally: People are eating more of everything, it's easier than ever to get calorie dense foods, and they aren't moving as much. There is no one magic thing that is causing it alone, and Fishmech is not just technically right, but right. uh what? the US government heavily subsidizes corn, which leads to cheaper high fructos corn syrup which leads to obesity, that's a fact
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Apr 18, 2018 10:03
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Novel idea: Eliminating mass starvation by eating the rich
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Apr 18, 2018 10:06
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Goa Tse-tung posted:uh what? the US government heavily subsidizes corn, which leads to cheaper high fructos corn syrup which leads to obesity, that's a fact Wow, there's a huge "..." in the middle of your logic here. This is basically the Underpants Gnomes of causality.
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Apr 18, 2018 19:04
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Fame Douglas posted:Novel idea: Eliminating mass starvation by eating the rich
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Apr 18, 2018 19:15
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Fame Douglas posted:Novel idea: Eliminating mass starvation by eating the rich But then aren't we just wedding ourselves to a system of even more aggressive capitalism in order to preserve the rich people food supply?
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Apr 18, 2018 19:31
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Found our next failure. Bon-Ton, parent of several department store chains, has sold to liquidators and will be gone by summer. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/04/18/bon-ton-stores-closing-boston-store-younkers/527726002/
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Apr 19, 2018 00:33
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"The York, Pa.-based company's brands include Bon-Ton, Bergner's, Boston Store, Carson's, Elder-Beerman, Herberger's and Younkers." Clearly their first mistake was naming all their stores the way Roald Dahl named villains.
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Apr 19, 2018 02:19
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For the first time ever, Amazon released financial details about the Amazon Prime program. They have over 100 million paying prime subscribers worldwide and Prime is the second biggest subscription service in the world. That is pretty insane and way higher than I would have ever guessed. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.049cfb326d68
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Apr 19, 2018 03:19
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poopinmymouth posted:Wrong. You are staggeringly stupid
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Apr 19, 2018 03:35
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TrekBek posted:"The York, Pa.-based company's brands include Bon-Ton, Bergner's, Boston Store, Carson's, Elder-Beerman, Herberger's and Younkers." Pretty certain they acquired most, if not all, of those brands by buying out smaller chains.
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Apr 19, 2018 03:59
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:For the first time ever, Amazon released financial details about the Amazon Prime program. Between myself, my close friends, and my current and former roommate, I can confirm 100% of people have prime
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Apr 19, 2018 06:23
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Amused to Death posted:Between myself, my close friends, and my current and former roommate, I can confirm 100% of people have prime Weird, because from myself and my social circle I have determined that 0% of people have prime
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Apr 19, 2018 07:24
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Weird, because from myself and my social circle I have determined that 0% of people have prime You must have a Walmart nearby, different demographic.
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Apr 19, 2018 10:48
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I pay for a monthly subscription that gives me faster checkout at Walmart.
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Apr 19, 2018 10:51
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Grand Prize Winner posted:Weird, because from myself and my social circle I have determined that 0% of people have prime
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Apr 19, 2018 11:02
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Yeah I cannot imagine life without Prime
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Apr 19, 2018 12:08
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FistEnergy posted:Yeah I cannot imagine life without Prime Ah yes, having to wait slightly longer for tchotchkes to be delivered: Truly unthinkable. Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Apr 19, 2018 |
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Apr 19, 2018 12:13
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Fame Douglas posted:Ah yes, having to wait slightly longer for worthless tchotchkes to be delivered: Truly unthinkable. I have 3 young children. The extra time and effort of packing diaper bags, loading/unloading car seats, and schlepping them back and forth is considerable. Good for you for being Above It All though! 
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Apr 19, 2018 12:20
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FistEnergy posted:I have 3 young children. The extra time and effort of packing diaper bags, loading/unloading car seats, and schlepping them back and forth is considerable. Why are you packing diaper bags, loading/unloading car seats, and schlepping them back and forth when you order online without Prime?
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Apr 19, 2018 12:22
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Fame Douglas posted:Why are you packing diaper bags, loading/unloading car seats, and schlepping them back and forth when you order online without Prime? Almost all online orders should be Prime. The pricing is often best, plus I get a percentage back with my Amazon credit card, plus my whole family uses Prime Video, plus it's extremely convenient to do it all with one app/account. Seems like a no brainier to me.
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Apr 19, 2018 12:27
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FistEnergy posted:Almost all online orders should be Prime. The pricing is often best, plus I get a percentage back with my Amazon credit card, plus my whole family uses Prime Video, plus it's extremely convenient to do it all with one app/account. Seems like a no brainier to me. I agree, it's very convenient. In regards to credit card rewards: I feel we should strictly limit the fees debit/credit card companies are allowed to take, just like the EU. Credit card fees are extremely high in the US. Should be significantly less than 1% Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Apr 19, 2018 |
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Apr 19, 2018 12:29
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We had prime for a while but then did the math and found out it was a wash. Now if we need stuff from Amazon we just wait and build up larger orders for free shipping. But also we’re getting more conscientious about buying locally from independent stores. I live in Boston so that is more possible than it is for a lot of people. I would rather give that $100 per year to the stores in my area by paying a slight price premium. Better they get the $ than Bezos.
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Apr 19, 2018 12:32
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Like most of these premium services and whatever, it's going to be a waste of money unless you order lots of stuff from them regularly enough to make up the difference, or are willing to pay extra for a bit more convenience.
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Apr 19, 2018 12:38
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And I think I came across as more adversarial than intended: I'm on Prime myself, even though I think Amazon is a terrible company. But I don't think living without Prime would be unthinkable to me; waiting a few days more isn't the end of the world, and I rarely order so little as to not hit free shipping. Plus I have like 5 (if not more) stores within a few minutes walking distance.
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Apr 19, 2018 12:38
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Living in Germany now, Amazon is super cool and useful for ordering English books for our son. You can get some English books at local bookshops but obviously the selection ain't great. In fact, I feel like even though the overall selection is worse here than the states, in some ways Amazon is actually more useful because store hours in Bavaria are loving awful.
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Apr 19, 2018 12:59
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Neon Noodle posted:I live in Boston so that is more possible than it is for a lot of people. I would rather give that $100 per year to the stores in my area by paying a slight price premium. Better they get the $ than Bezos.
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Apr 19, 2018 13:01
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Neon Noodle posted:We had prime for a while but then did the math and found out it was a wash. Now if we need stuff from Amazon we just wait and build up larger orders for free shipping. But also we’re getting more conscientious about buying locally from independent stores. I live in Boston so that is more possible than it is for a lot of people. I would rather give that $100 per year to the stores in my area by paying a slight price premium. Better they get the $ than Bezos. alt: use Amazon and donate the $100 to a third world deworming charity
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Apr 19, 2018 14:07
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Cicero posted:Are you poor, or do you hang out with a really anti-capitalist crowd? I know this might be hard to understand, but some of us don't really have a use for online shopping when we can just go to a store to get it now
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mandatory lesbian posted:I know this might be hard to understand, but some of us don't really have a use for online shopping when we can just go to a store to get it now I feel like you've posted something along these lines in this thread before (or maybe it was someone else), but this is really, really unusual. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, but it's not common at all to largely abstain from online shopping at this point and I honestly don't know anyone who does it. Not coworkers, not friends, not parents, not my parent's friends. If no one in your social circle routinely shops online in 2018 then your social circle is an outlier.
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