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SolarFire2 posted:I like that they're keeping Lando always pronouncing 'Han' like the word 'Hand' where everyone else [including Han] says it 'Hahn.' I use the Lando pronunciation. Are you gonna tell me Lando is wrong?
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Mameluke posted:AOTC is the best prequel. I love Padme's reckless streak, detective Obi-Wan, hired gun Jango Fett clowning on him, Sir Christopher Lee, and I love the sonic bomb noise. I agree with this
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Mameluke posted:AOTC is the best prequel. I love Padme's reckless streak, detective Obi-Wan, hired gun Jango Fett clowning on him, Sir Christopher Lee, and I love the sonic bomb noise. It’s also incredibly gorgeous
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Apr 19, 2018 04:47
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I hate Attack of the Clones so much. It's so bad looking. It's like any era Robert Rodriguez CGI movie. Everything doesn't fit and it looks cheap as hell thanks to the digital camera. Also Anakin sucks.
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Apr 19, 2018 05:08
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You claim to want cooler fascists and higher polygon counts, so you should have high praise for Starship Troopers 5: Traitor Of Mars, the recent DTV sequel. Obviously it’s better, because it has those things.
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galagazombie posted:This is one of those "Lunatic's running the Asylum" things isn't it. Just like how they're misunderstanding balance in the Force. It's like what happened with Star Trek or all the Hollywood reboots where the people making it now don't understand the thing they're making and the actual creator(s) is gone. Droid rights was never a thing in Star Wars. Robot's don't work that way in this universe. are you kidding? A new hope had R2 trick Luke into releasing his slave chains then ran away. The Cantina scene begins with the bartender telling them the droids aren't welcome.
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Apr 19, 2018 06:07
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:You claim to want cooler fascists and higher polygon counts, so you should have high praise for Starship Troopers 5: Traitor Of Mars, the recent DTV sequel. Does this really exist because if so I kinda wanna see it
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Apr 19, 2018 07:07
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gohmak posted:are you kidding? A new hope had R2 trick Luke into releasing his slave chains then ran away. The Cantina scene begins with the bartender telling them the droids aren't welcome. Next you're gonna tell me we were oppressed because you couldn't bring your car into the dentist's office.
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Apr 19, 2018 07:40
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banned from Starbucks posted:Does this really exist because if so I kinda wanna see it At this point I'm surprised they're only up to the fourth sequel.
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Apr 19, 2018 08:00
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can u imagine getting the Casper Van Dien/Cuba Gooding Jr. lifestyle of doing a voice in like the 8th direct to video version of a series you did 15 years ago? such a dream...
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CelticPredator posted:I hate Attack of the Clones so much. It's so bad looking. It's like any era Robert Rodriguez CGI movie. Everything doesn't fit and it looks cheap as hell thanks to the digital camera. Also Anakin sucks. Yeah, it loving sucks. Finally we agree on something (other than toys).
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Apr 19, 2018 16:36
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Hat Thoughts posted:can u imagine getting the Casper Van Dien/Cuba Gooding Jr. lifestyle of doing a voice in like the 8th direct to video version of a series you did 15 years ago? such a dream... IIRC he is an exec producer on the series, which is cool (if true, I refuse to look it up).
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Apr 19, 2018 16:39
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Starship Troopers 5 isn’t even bad per se (it’s just kinda dull and anime-ish), but the point is that Celticpredator isn’t being honest here.
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Apr 19, 2018 17:00
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:anime-ish Would you define this the way you did nerdism?
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Apr 19, 2018 17:03
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Corrosion posted:Would you define this the way you did nerdism? It’s not as involved as that; I mean that it’s literally a Japanese animated film and they got anime voice-actors for half the cast.
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Apr 19, 2018 17:09
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I mean poo poo, you should do it anyway then. It's not "anime-ish" if it's actually from Japan, that would mean it is an anime. Which then is just the Japanese word for what we would call cartoons. I had a friend from there tell me that X-Men the Animated Series was an American anime. So I am curious if there's a distinction to be made if something is said to have the quality of being anime and it isn't something animated by Japan folks.
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Apr 19, 2018 17:16
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Starship Troopers 5 isn’t even bad per se (it’s just kinda dull and anime-ish), but the point is that Celticpredator isn’t being honest here. Rad effects work is necessary but not sufficient for a good science fiction movie (except Primer).
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Apr 19, 2018 18:43
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Vintersorg posted:. Finally we agree on something Why do people keep pointing this out?
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Next you're gonna tell me we were oppressed because you couldn't bring your car into the dentist's office. 
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Corrosion posted:I mean poo poo, you should do it anyway then. It's not "anime-ish" if it's actually from Japan, that would mean it is an anime. Which then is just the Japanese word for what we would call cartoons. I had a friend from there tell me that X-Men the Animated Series was an American anime. So I am curious if there's a distinction to be made if something is said to have the quality of being anime and it isn't something animated by Japan folks. The new 'rookie' characters are infantilized in a really familiar way, and the characters leap around in elaborate, stylized mech suits. The Verhoeven film has blocky, grey, prefab aesthetic throughout. The architecture is strictly functionalist.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The new 'rookie' characters are infantilized in a really familiar way, and the characters leap around in elaborate, stylized mech suits. The Verhoeven film has blocky, grey, prefab aesthetic throughout. The architecture is strictly functionalist. So the type of genericism that, say, Ghost in the Shell 2017 eschews. There's a lot of inherent fascism to that style that even Miyazaki visually rebukes or criticizes, such as the Gundam soldiers in Nausica, and that's probably what makes him the exception in a lot of cases. That and those films having settings not just being a functional backdrop but having substance.
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gohmak posted:are you kidding? A new hope had R2 trick Luke into releasing his slave chains then ran away. The Cantina scene begins with the bartender telling them the droids aren't welcome. So he could run to his actual owners. Luke literally tells his uncle about his suspicions that the Droids are stolen. This prompts Owens decision to do a memory wipe because he doesn't want the real legal owners to track them down to reclaim the Droids he just spent a bunch of money on. R2 wasn't making a break for freedom, he was trying to follow the orders of his owners. If "Droid Slavery" is really a thing wouldn't he not have immediately tried to return to noted Droid owners the Rebellion?
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SolarFire2 posted:I like that they're keeping Lando always pronouncing 'Han' like the word 'Hand' where everyone else [including Han] says it 'Hahn.' i genuinely cannot tell the difference between how they pronounce Han and spelling it like 'Hahn' is if anything making the difference less clear
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cargohills posted:i genuinely cannot tell the difference between how they pronounce Han and spelling it like 'Hahn' is if anything making the difference less clear Lando rhymes it with "man." e: in an american accent, idk how you read "man."
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galagazombie posted:So he could run to his actual owners. Luke literally tells his uncle about his suspicions that the Droids are stolen. This prompts Owens decision to do a memory wipe because he doesn't want the real legal owners to track them down to reclaim the Droids he just spent a bunch of money on. R2 wasn't making a break for freedom, he was trying to follow the orders of his owners. If "Droid Slavery" is really a thing wouldn't he not have immediately tried to return to noted Droid owners the Rebellion? Man this thread just keeps on giving.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Lando rhymes it with "man." ...do the other characters not just pronounce it that way too?
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cargohills posted:...do the other characters not just pronounce it that way too? Nah, they pronounce it like the har in harm.
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Mameluke posted:and I love the sonic bomb noise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utFRqsT61-k
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Man this thread just keeps on giving. An endless stream of people willing to argue the most beloved Star Wars character is not a character but a toaster and also nig- I mean, ahem, droids are inherently subservient and wouldn’t know what to do with freedom. It’s literally at least one new person a month with increasingly bizarre justifications
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DeimosRising posted:An endless stream of people willing to argue the most beloved Star Wars character is not a character but a toaster and also nig- I mean, ahem, droids are inherently subservient and wouldn’t know what to do with freedom. It’s literally at least one new person a month with increasingly bizarre justifications It is a pretty amazing insight into the mindset of a racist, though. Like, I used to find it hard to imagine how people sincerely believed people with dark skin were subhuman, but 160 years ago any right-thinking person—even the most liberal at the time—could reason exactly the same way. They look so different and they’re so good at this kind of manual labor! They’re made explicitly to work for us! They don’t have a real society, so how could they live apart from our guidance? There are so many of them and they even outnumber us in many places, but they don’t rise up and take over—must be because they don’t have the biological drive for freedom! If they could think, there'd be none of us here, would there?
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DeimosRising posted:An endless stream of people willing to argue the most beloved Star Wars character is not a character but a toaster and also nig- I mean, ahem, droids are inherently subservient and wouldn’t know what to do with freedom. It’s literally at least one new person a month with increasingly bizarre justifications I think I've said this before, but: It's often said that Star Wars isn't "real" science fiction, but a lot of people sure do struggle with the basic science-fictional conceits it introduces, like nonhuman sentience.
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Zoran posted:It is a pretty amazing insight into the mindset of a racist, though. Like, I used to find it hard to imagine how people sincerely believed people with dark skin were subhuman, but 160 years ago any right-thinking person—even the most liberal at the time—could reason exactly the same way. They look so different and they’re so good at this kind of manual labor! They’re made explicitly to work for us! They don’t have a real society, so how could they live apart from our guidance? There are so many of them and they even outnumber us in many places, but they don’t rise up and take over—must be because they don’t have the biological drive for freedom! If they could think, there'd be none of us here, would there? You don’t have to go back 160 years.
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euphronius posted:You don’t have to go back 160 years. Oh believe me, I know, but I was specifically looking for a time when that kind of thing was what the more racially progressive people thought.
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I'd be very curious to know what George Lucas thought about droids having sentience. Was that ever part of any early versions of the story?
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What do you mean? It’s part of all of the films
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DeimosRising posted:An endless stream of people willing to argue the most beloved Star Wars character is not a character but a toaster and also nig- I mean, ahem, droids are inherently subservient and wouldn’t know what to do with freedom. It’s literally at least one new person a month with increasingly bizarre justifications Zoran posted:It is a pretty amazing insight into the mindset of a racist, though. Like, I used to find it hard to imagine how people sincerely believed people with dark skin were subhuman, but 160 years ago any right-thinking person—even the most liberal at the time—could reason exactly the same way. They look so different and they’re so good at this kind of manual labor! They’re made explicitly to work for us! They don’t have a real society, so how could they live apart from our guidance? There are so many of them and they even outnumber us in many places, but they don’t rise up and take over—must be because they don’t have the biological drive for freedom! If they could think, there'd be none of us here, would there? The logic is awesome to behold. This is pretty much exactly the argument of "Racism Without Racists".
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galagazombie posted:So he could run to his actual owners. Luke literally tells his uncle about his suspicions that the Droids are stolen. This prompts Owens decision to do a memory wipe because he doesn't want the real legal owners to track them down to reclaim the Droids he just spent a bunch of money on. R2 wasn't making a break for freedom, he was trying to follow the orders of his owners. If "Droid Slavery" is really a thing wouldn't he not have immediately tried to return to noted Droid owners the Rebellion? wow, congratulations, you are a racist.
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Can we honestly not say that R2 merely had a bout of draeptomania?
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Galagazombie’s not even misinterpreting the film; he’s just plain factually incorrect. The droids’ legal owner was Captain Antilles, not Obiwan or Leia, and C3PO refers to Antilles in the past tense: “Our last master was Captain Antilles”. C3PO ceases to recognize Antilles as his master long before any sort of reprogramming. C3PO also obviously has absolutely no concern with the legality of his ownership by the Lars family, and dismisses R2’s claims about Obiwan as a glitch: “with what we've been through, this little R2 unit has become a bit eccentric.” So the idea that droids must obey their legal owners is purely something Galagazombie’s imagined - why? C3PO is not programmed to obey. He is just making a basic observation that the Lars family are the ones who currently have him restrained. He’s resigned to it, and R2 is not. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Apr 20, 2018 |
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