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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

viral spiral posted:

Leftism with an executive Presidency is whats needed in this bureaucratic quagmire of a country.

Socialism with Trumpian characteristics

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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


viral spiral posted:

I have yet to come across these USSR/RF hybrids that you speak of.

assad is genuinely worse than putin and yet there are a huge amount of tankies who unironically support him 100%

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

assad is genuinely worse than putin and yet there are a huge amount of tankies who unironically support him 100%

If assad was being supported by the US they'd be crying about his horrific war crimes. It's never about the ethics, just if someone is on team usa or team anti-usa.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Baronjutter posted:

If assad was being supported by the US they'd be crying about his horrific war crimes. It's never about the ethics, just if someone is on team usa or team anti-usa.

Assad hosted CIA black sites through the early 2000s lol

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Socialism with Trumpian characteristics

I prefer to simply call it socialism.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

assad is genuinely worse than putin and yet there are a huge amount of tankies who unironically support him 100%

tbf a lot of these people are like, 19 year old communications majors in college who have no idea what the gently caress they're talking about. or at least it seems like that on twitter.

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

Assad hosted CIA black sites through the early 2000s lol

But then the CIA decided his oil was more important than murdering people at these camps

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
Did anyone here ride the wave of oil memes

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Karl Barks posted:

tbf a lot of these people are like, 19 year old communications majors in college who have no idea what the gently caress they're talking about. or at least it seems like that on twitter.

yeah i suspect a lot of it is not being old enough to have watched livestreams of protesters being massacred repeatedly in 2011 and 2012 and being Edgy Boys

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

viral spiral posted:

Leftism with an executive Presidency is whats needed in this bureaucratic quagmire of a country.

Executive branches are an extremely dumb concept

At best, they should be completely ceremonial, like a national mascot

Rhukatah
Feb 26, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

assad is genuinely worse than putin and yet there are a huge amount of tankies who unironically support him 100%

Counterpoint: All of the Lion of Damascus memes are really funny.

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Dreddout posted:

Executive branches are an extremely dumb concept

At best, they should be completely ceremonial, like a national mascot

our current model is totally working right

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Rhukatah posted:

Counterpoint: All of the Lion of Damascus memes are really funny.

the problem with funny irony memes is it eventually turns a large chunk of the people unironic

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
presidential republics are inherently unstable compare to parliamentary ones

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Typo posted:

presidential republics are inherently unstable compare to parliamentary ones

Good

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Typo posted:

presidential republics are inherently unstable compare to parliamentary ones

If you're talking about individual governments it's probably the opposite, because parliamentary governments have a tendency to get dissolved whenever the ruling party can't get something done.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Thug Lessons posted:

If you're talking about individual governments it's probably the opposite, because parliamentary governments have a tendency to get dissolved whenever the ruling party can't get something done.

Ineffective government will fail and fall no matter what, the structure of the state and of the class relations determine how quickly and in what direction. A weak parliamentary government being replaced by another parliamentary one is continuity of class society, far more than autocratic power struggles.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Zas posted:

it seems like just a year or two ago you really had to believe some serious poo poo to be a tankie, now its just anyone who likes actually existing communism? why has this happened?

tankie is short for "disagrees with the state department"

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Tankies are born when you go to a David Irving book and replace ocaust with odomor

A SMART MAN: Stephen Wheatcroft and Robert Davies are basically David Irving.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

namesake posted:

Ineffective government will fail and fall no matter what, the structure of the state and of the class relations determine how quickly and in what direction. A weak parliamentary government being replaced by another parliamentary one is continuity of class society, far more than autocratic power struggles.

If by "presidential republic" you mean a dictatorship, maybe, but I don't really see why you'd argue the UK government is inherently more stable than the American's.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Prav posted:

tankie is short for "disagrees with the state department"

lol

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Prav posted:

tankie is short for "disagrees with the state department"

:hai:

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Yossarian-22 posted:

tankies are the original "um actually" guys but instead of pedantry it's poo poo that killed millions of people

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Prav posted:

tankie is short for "disagrees with the state department"

lmao

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

namesake posted:

Ineffective government will fail and fall no matter what, the structure of the state and of the class relations determine how quickly and in what direction. A weak parliamentary government being replaced by another parliamentary one is continuity of class society, far more than autocratic power struggles.

Given that Jewish Home and its predecessor party, the National Religious Party, has been kingmaker in pretty much every Israeli government and gotten their crazy rear end religious and settler poo poo through unabated, I don't really think it's a better situation than the American shithole system.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

enough! let's do away with federated republics and return to the true democratic solution of the polis city-state where every decision is made in the agorá market

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Thug Lessons posted:

If you're talking about individual governments it's probably the opposite, because parliamentary governments have a tendency to get dissolved whenever the ruling party can't get something done.

that's one of the stabilizing mechanisms of the system as a whole ( as oppose to individual governments): it's far harder to have standoffs between the executive and the legislature (because they are the same thing) that you see in Latin America or Obama-Trump period, where nothing gets done, or worse yet a power struggle that eventually evolves into a very unpleasant constitutional crisis resolved by the military or something rather than an election

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Horseshoe theory posted:

Given that Jewish Home and its predecessor party, the National Religious Party, has been kingmaker in pretty much every Israeli government and gotten their crazy rear end religious and settler poo poo through unabated, I don't really think it's a better situation than the American shithole system.

that's an issue with proportional representation more than a parliamentary system

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

enough! let's do away with federated republics and return to the true democratic solution of the polis city-state where every decision is made in the agorá market

At least then when I'm living in a barrel, eating trash, and never bathe, they'll call me a philosopher.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

El Filosofo del Ocho

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

At least then when I'm living in a barrel, eating trash, and never bathe, they'll call me a philosopher.

You'd still have to say something clever at least once in a while. Sorry man.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

PK, being arrested for public masturbation posted:

This is just more evidence of the tyranny of the bourgeoisie.

Yeah, Diogenes Laertius ain't gonna record that one.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

You'd still have to say something clever at least once in a while. Sorry man.

:ironicat:

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-philippines-china-defence/china-gives-guns-to-philippines-to-show-its-a-friend-not-a-foe-idUKKBN1CA0OK

China gave 3,000 assault rifles to the Philippines on Thursday as a gesture of "friendly and cooperative relations", the second shipment of rifles to the Philippines this year as President Rodrigo Duterte seeks closer ties with old foe Beijing.

Philippines Defence Secretary Delfin Lorenzana said the Chinese weapons were supposed to go to the military, but Duterte felt the police needed them more.

"We are lucky that the Chinese government provided the firearms," Lorenzana said at a news conference, where stacks of rifles were on display.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



hey cool more rifles to shoot addicts with

cheaper than putting them in rehab i guess

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Ah, the classic riposte of "providing evidence for the other guy's thesis."

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich
Should the proletariat in this country conduct a people's war against corporate and banking monopolies?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

viral spiral posted:

Should the proletariat in this country conduct a people's war against corporate and banking monopolies?

*lin biao voice* yes

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

viral spiral posted:

Should the proletariat in this country conduct a people's war against corporate and banking monopolies?

quote:

After the Sino-Vietnamese War in 1979, Deng Xiaoping abandoned People's War for "People's War under Modern Conditions,"

gently caress me they have such an easy time with naming

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/ajitbirsingh/status/988787692564631553

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