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Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

eyefi took their ball and went home by disabling all but the latest gen of their cards. Since they had a near monopoly at the time, the market kinda died for them.

Holy poo poo, I was close to buying one of those at one point. I'm glad I didn't because I like to be able to use my stuff forever past the point of obsolescence.

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JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Buttcoin purse posted:

Holy poo poo, I was close to buying one of those at one point. I'm glad I didn't because I like to be able to use my stuff forever past the point of obsolescence.

I have some piece of hardware that the app to run it has vanished off the Google Play store. I can't even find it anymore in my history of 'purchased' apps.

There was something a few months about Google doing a purge of a bunch of apps for various reasons (content, malware, security issues, etc.) so I don't know if this was included in that or if the developers pulled it or what.

Shai-Hulud
Jul 10, 2008

But it feels so right!
Lipstick Apathy
Hey also regularly dump apps that never get updated to newer API levels as far as I know. So if you use some ancient API in your app and never update it you might get the boot.

Cowboy Mark
Sep 9, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Yay mouse hand chat. I'm right handed. At home I mouse with the right, at work with the left, the idea being to stave off future rsi problems. However I will probably just get rsi on both sides instead of neither.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Buttcoin purse posted:

Holy poo poo, I was close to buying one of those at one point. I'm glad I didn't because I like to be able to use my stuff forever past the point of obsolescence.

I got one of their transfer-to-mobile cards back when I thought my workflow could conceivably be DSLR >>> iPhone for mobile editing. The implementation was janky though. If you're shooting something with a DSLR you're likely to have lots of bad shots you don't want, but EVERYTHING gets copied over. But not copied over to your photo gallery. It's copied into EyeFi's own application that's dog slow for deleting the 90% of shots you don't want on your phone or iPad. And if you delete it, well you'd better make sure it's not still on your camera because guess what just got uploaded again (they may have fixed that). Essentially you had to extensively janitor both your camera and your phone for it to work properly which went against the whole concept of having a mobile option for editing pictures.

Also you can't install the software without a physical code you receive with your SD card. So when I upgraded my phone and couldn't find my code I was SOL. I literally just stumbled across my code last night after having lost it for a year.

The SD card still works as an SD card, so that's something at least.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?
I present for your consideration the not at all failed, but certainly obsolete, technology of "tracked" music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9zmLQGBTIw

Seen here the Amiga ProTracker software. State of the art at its time, ProTracker was the first user-friendly way to sequence digital samples together to make music.

Trackers were used to produce the soundtracks of many great games on Amiga, Atari ST(e), Super Nintendo and other platforms that boasted "CD quality" music (which usually meant they could produce 8-bit PCM sound, and not necessarily in proper stereo... The SNES did 16-bit sound at 32 kHz iirc, which I suppose is best in class.)

If you attempted to make your machine sound like an orchestra, what you got was generally disappointing. A rousing composition notwithstanding, this piece by Dave Lowe mostly succeeds in highlighting the shortcomings of the technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbegNmKRZUM

Most videogame composers took completely different directions, rolling with the limited number of channels. The Atari ST had its adherents and boasted great MIDI compatibility and software, but the built-in synthesis leaves much to be desired. The Amiga still lives as a composition platform on the demo Scene. Real craftsmen are still pushing the platform to its limits but I'd say it's well past being obsolete in the eyes of the general public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eclMFa0mD1c

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
A mechanical monstrosity from the early-mid 20th C; a double-acting opposed piston 2-stroke engine where the main piston is powered both up and down and then also has 2 pistons that are somehow externally yoked together above and below it, THREE pistons per cylinder; 550mm bore. I found this while trying to study normal engines.



PDF of a textbook chapter on it on it:
http://www.rakaia.co.uk/assets/hw-da-engines.pdf

Site with more info:
http://www.inverclydeshipbuilding.co.uk/home/the-diesel-engine

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Hippie Hedgehog posted:

I present for your consideration the not at all failed, but certainly obsolete, technology of "tracked" music.

I will forever love trackers (and the entire demo scene). I've probably posted it a hundred times, but the "Elysium" track is still the greatest imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTtjvbAvsys


And I once made my own mod. Way back in the late-90s, my high school required a "creative" component for graduation. Having no other creative bone in my body, I decided to use a tracker to re-imagine an old instrumental. If you guessed that it was the theme to a 1970's Yugoslav TV show about WWII freedom fighters, you are correct. I've sadly lost my file, but this was the original theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAyfo__Mhpc

My version, it... wasn't great. But it got me the credit needed to graduate. Thanks trackers!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


JediTalentAgent posted:

I have some piece of hardware that the app to run it has vanished off the Google Play store. I can't even find it anymore in my history of 'purchased' apps.

There was something a few months about Google doing a purge of a bunch of apps for various reasons (content, malware, security issues, etc.) so I don't know if this was included in that or if the developers pulled it or what.

I have a Lytro Camera. Well, had. Now it's apparently bricked with no access to the lightfield calculation stuff.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Hippie Hedgehog posted:

I present for your consideration the not at all failed, but certainly obsolete, technology of "tracked" music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9zmLQGBTIw

Seen here the Amiga ProTracker software. State of the art at its time, ProTracker was the first user-friendly way to sequence digital samples together to make music.

Trackers were used to produce the soundtracks of many great games on Amiga, Atari ST(e), Super Nintendo and other platforms that boasted "CD quality" music (which usually meant they could produce 8-bit PCM sound, and not necessarily in proper stereo... The SNES did 16-bit sound at 32 kHz iirc, which I suppose is best in class.)

If you attempted to make your machine sound like an orchestra, what you got was generally disappointing. A rousing composition notwithstanding, this piece by Dave Lowe mostly succeeds in highlighting the shortcomings of the technology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbegNmKRZUM

Most videogame composers took completely different directions, rolling with the limited number of channels. The Atari ST had its adherents and boasted great MIDI compatibility and software, but the built-in synthesis leaves much to be desired. The Amiga still lives as a composition platform on the demo Scene. Real craftsmen are still pushing the platform to its limits but I'd say it's well past being obsolete in the eyes of the general public.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eclMFa0mD1c

Hell yeah, Jogeir Liljedahl is loving amazing. I have those compilations from YouTube bookmarked as my go-to music at work. I can listen to them all day without getting tired of them.

Purple Motion and Peter Hajba (sp?) rock too.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcCY-Sg-m6s

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

Jerry Cotton posted:

A Purple Motion .mod tune

Great choice! Incidentally, Purple Motion was an alias for Jonne Valtonen, who wrote the orchestral arrangements for Square Enix's tribute concert Symphonic Fantasies, which includes this awesome medley of tunes from arguably the best "tracked" game soundtrack ever: Chrono Trigger (SNES). (The arrangement includes some Chrono Cross, too, but the Chrono main theme carries the piece.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc0qQyxtuRI

(Edit: The Köln recording was godawful, swapped it out for the Tokyo one...)

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Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

I'm left handed but I use a right sided track ball.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Humphreys posted:

I have a Lytro Camera. Well, had. Now it's apparently bricked with no access to the lightfield calculation stuff.

I picked up a 1st gen Lytro’s in a fire sale, but could never find a real use for it.

I don’t think the cameras got bricked, just the online hosting where you could upload a raw image and let others selectively focus it. You should still be able to use all the other features of the camera.

The Claptain
May 11, 2014

Grimey Drawer

Trabant posted:

If you guessed that it was the theme to a 1970's Yugoslav TV show about WWII freedom fighters, you are correct.

As soon as I read this, the song started playing in my head, and I'm sad you've lost your file.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Hippie Hedgehog posted:

Great choice! Incidentally, Purple Motion was an alias for Jonne Valtonen, who wrote the orchestral arrangements for Square Enix's tribute concert Symphonic Fantasies, which includes this awesome medley of tunes from arguably the best "tracked" game soundtrack ever: Chrono Trigger (SNES). (The arrangement includes some Chrono Cross, too, but the Chrono main theme carries the piece.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc0qQyxtuRI

(Edit: The Köln recording was godawful, swapped it out for the Tokyo one...)

I think I met him once, briefly. He was a NERD.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jerry Cotton posted:

I think I met him once, briefly. He was a NERD.

same

Jaguars!
Jul 31, 2012


ftp is obsolete, right? I'm currently trying to dl a bunch of work stuff and it takes 45 seconds (I timed it) to load up pages that have like 200 characters

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Shut your filthy mouth. You don’t deserve to use port 21.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!
I've read a lot of William Gibson novels. They were pretty decent, given the time in which they were written.

And then I followed Naomi Wu on youtube. Shenzhen, China is straight-up William Gibson's cyberpunk-dystopia Tokyo cranked up to 11. And on crack. You can build an iPhone from spare parts you buy off street vendors, ferchrissakes (as some white guy demonstrated).

(I guess the obsolete/failed tech here is Communism/the Cold War, China loves them some USD.)

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Jaguars! posted:

ftp is obsolete, right?

noooope. still use it heavily at work for exchanging files with companies who we integrate systems with, like older companies that haven't implemented API-based methods or something else, just daily files via s/ftp

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Jaguars! posted:

ftp is obsolete, right?

My company works with a bunch of other companies that need to exchange files with us. Files that deal with invoicing and billing and money. We've offered SFTP for many years, but a surprising number of these companies (terrifyingly big and famous companies) say that their systems just don't have that capability. So we keep a plain-Jane unencrypted FTP service going for them, on the public Internet. It's barbarous.

FTP still has its uses, but not for anything within shouting distance of money.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

Code Jockey posted:

noooope. still use it heavily at work for exchanging files with companies who we integrate systems with

So yes, basically. See the other old poo poo thread where people have 386 computers running the entire shop with decades since last reboot because if it ever powers down, the HDD won't spin up again.

Edit: I'm being a bit flippant, but only a bit.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Krispy Wafer posted:

I picked up a 1st gen Lytro’s in a fire sale, but could never find a real use for it.

I don’t think the cameras got bricked, just the online hosting where you could upload a raw image and let others selectively focus it. You should still be able to use all the other features of the camera.

Oh ok, I might have to dig it up. Been a few years since I used it and my hazy memory was that hte selective focus was all done 'in the cloud' and uploaded to their server. Showing people DOF and focus trickery was the coolest thing.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Jaguars! posted:

ftp is obsolete, right? I'm currently trying to dl a bunch of work stuff and it takes 45 seconds (I timed it) to load up pages that have like 200 characters

We have some automated systems at my work that transfer files between machines, they can do 1GB in just over 10s. Maybe you have some issues with client negotiation or something, maybe it's trying lovely old active FTP and then falling back to passive? Or are you using a decent FTP client like FileZilla?

I remember the bad old days of trying to get a decent GUI FTP client on Windows 95. I always had to go back to command line tools if I wanted things to be reliable :argh:

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef
Is FileZilla still saving passwords as plaintext?

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

There is literally no reason to use FTP in a world where SFTP exists. SFTP isn't ideal either, but it's a drop in replacement for FTP in 99.9% of use cases and a thousand times better.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug
FTP will survive for a very long time because out there somewhere are several million systems relying on it that somebody holding the purse strings won't pay to update because hey it works why spend money if you don't have to?

Mr-Spain
Aug 27, 2003

Bullshit... you can be mine.

ToxicSlurpee posted:

FTP will survive for a very long time because out there somewhere are several million systems relying on it that somebody holding the purse strings won't pay to update because hey it works why spend money if you don't have to?

We've got one because we're waiting to migrate to something other than an AS400 for one of our systems but we just have them FTP over a VPN. Oh well.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Mr-Spain posted:

We've got one because we're waiting to migrate to something other than an AS400 for one of our systems but we just have them FTP over a VPN. Oh well.

All these words are my life. Want to work on EDI? Want to move to Wisconsin?

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

Jaguars! posted:

ftp is obsolete, right? I'm currently trying to dl a bunch of work stuff and it takes 45 seconds (I timed it) to load up pages that have like 200 characters
FTP = "File Transfer Protocol", not "small webpages transferred and displayed in a browser protocol". :)

If you have a console application or a batch job or whatever that downloads, for example, a 5 Gigabyte file via FTP in the background, it can reach full speed just as well as downloading via HTTP. There's just usually a ton of overhead establishing the FTP connection, so it behaves terribly slow when you're manually working with it.

I can also attest, by working as a software developer, that FTP is alive and well. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with it, it's just often misused as a "webservice", where one company writes data to some files, puts them on another company's FTP, and then they have a batch job that reads and imports data from the files into their system. So many things can go wrong in the chain, and it's hell to debug.

Pilsner
Nov 23, 2002

Hippie Hedgehog posted:

I present for your consideration the not at all failed, but certainly obsolete, technology of "tracked" music.
Here are some of my favorites:

Reptile & Sky - Magical Sound Shower (NSFW, pixel girl in underwear)

Serpent - SBD Beat

AceMan - My First Console

Also, remember Unreal, the first from 1998? All the music is tracker music, made with a mix of ImpulseTracker and ScreamTracker. I extracted it from the game data files eons ago and still listen to it using WinAmp (haha, obsolete) sometimes. You can listen to it here as well:

Unreal (1998) complete soundtrack

It's amazing quality, both from a technical and musical standpoint.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


Is the music from Deus ex made with a tracker?

hirvox
Sep 8, 2009

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:

Is the music from Deus ex made with a tracker?
Yes. Deus Ex was built on Unreal Engine.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzvw8uSWucM

loving jam

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

Welp. Guess I'm beating Deus Ex again this weekend.

I had other plans, jerk. :argh:

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

Magnus Praeda posted:

Welp. Guess I'm beating Deus Ex again this weekend.

I had other plans, jerk. :argh:

May as well do a pacifist run while you're at it.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

still so loving good

deus ex is flawless

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Code Jockey posted:

still so loving good

deus ex is flawless

I wouldn't use the word 'flawless' - epescially when talking about the Hong Kong level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kihGm4KfY7k

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Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

spog posted:

I wouldn't use the word 'flawless' - epescially when talking about the Hong Kong level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kihGm4KfY7k

What words would you use? Impeccable? Immaculate? Exemplary?

Because it is a level of perfection that has not since yet been obtained.

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