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Iron Crowned posted:Origin stories can be good, but we don't need them every drat time. Right, and it doesn't happen every drat time. It happens when and to a narrative extent that filmmakers believe it's fertile ground for character development.
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Given all the hologram stuff Jem is based around you'd think you could get the Hatsune Miku people on board and steal some scripts from any one of the eighty zillion idol/magical girl animes. Reminded of how the Josie and the Pussycats movie was apparently a brutal satire of the music industry that got zero marketing.
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Apr 20, 2018 14:27
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An origin sequence for a super/bat/spider-man etc reboot could be done behind the opening credits and leave the film for something interesting
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Apr 20, 2018 14:38
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Wheat Loaf posted:They're okay. They sort of feel like episodes of a non-existent Darkman television series from 1993. There actually was a pilot for a Darkman TV series, starring Christopher Bowen and Larry Drake. It was 30 minutes long, and was a basic retelling of the movie, except it eliminated the character of Strack and Julie (!). The four spin off novels from 94-95 were much better.
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Surprised nobody mentioned John Wick as an example of a film that goes out of its way to NOT be an origin story, and actually appears to be telling the hero's journey in reverse as the series progresses.
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Davros1 posted:There actually was a pilot for a Darkman TV series, starring Christopher Bowen and Larry Drake. It was 30 minutes long, and was a basic retelling of the movie, except it eliminated the character of Strack and Julie (!). There's a couple uploads online but they all seem to be lovely VHS rips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-af1-KXfDE
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Davros1 posted:There actually was a pilot for a Darkman TV series, starring Christopher Bowen and Larry Drake. It was 30 minutes long, and was a basic retelling of the movie, except it eliminated the character of Strack and Julie (!). The original movie benefits enormously from Liam Neeson's bizarre facial expressions and weird accent. Definitive Darkman scene.
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Apr 20, 2018 15:02
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Davros1 posted:There actually was a pilot for a Darkman TV series, starring Christopher Bowen and Larry Drake. It was 30 minutes long, and was a basic retelling of the movie, except it eliminated the character of Strack and Julie (!). Darkman never had a series, but this Marvel (technically Malibu) character have dozens of episodes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5LhB2X0cuA
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Apr 20, 2018 15:33
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Batman '89 had the best origin sequence because the film starts with a mugger stalking a family down a dark alley and you think it's Joe Chill and the Waynes but then Batman swoops in and saves the family who turn out to just be some random people. The actual origin sequence is a brief flashback halfway through the film. Superman 1978 takes a little more time to go through the whole Krypton and Smallville sequences but Superman pulls on the tights and is flying around Metropolis saving Lois from dying in a helicopter crash and catching criminals and getting a little girl's cat out of a tree (and dropping the worst quips) at a little over 1 hr after the opening credits.
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starkebn posted:An origin sequence for a super/bat/spider-man etc reboot could be done behind the opening credits and leave the film for something interesting The two superhero movies that did this were the 2008 Hulk movie and Batman v Superman. Neither one is particularly beloved.
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Apr 20, 2018 15:42
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Exterior. Gotham alley. Night. JOE CHILL approaches a wealthy family. CHILL: Give me your money and your pearls as well! THOMAS WAYNE: It's ok. Everything is ok. We'll give you what you want. BRUCE WAYNE: Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. CHILL: What's this kid saying? Give me those pearls! MARTHA: Oh no not my pearls! (CHILL points the gun at MARTHA and reflexively THOMAS tries to wrestle it away) BRUCE: To combat crime I'll have to be something more than a man, a symbol. (CHILL shoots THOMAS and MARTHA, killing them) BRUCE: I must become a bat (JOE CHILL runs away, confused) Interior. Gotham PD. POLICE COMMISSIONER GORDON comforts BRUCE GORDON: Listen, son. We're gonna do everything we can to catch that guy. You're gonna be taken care of, I promise. BRUCE: There's a storm gathering in this city, commissioner. GORDON (beat): Let's- let's get you some hot chocolate. (GORDON turns around to get a mug. The lights flicker. When he turns back around, BRUCE is no longer in his office)
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Batman Begins seems like almost an afterthought nowadays compared to TDK and TDKR, though. (Not sure if the latter movie is necessarily better, but it's certainly interesting) One of the things I like about TDKR is that I feel it's as much a direct sequel to Batman Begins as it is to TDK, with it building off stuff like Ra's al-Ghul and the League of Shadows and the legacy of Batman's training that TDK didn't touch at all. I feel like a lot of trilogy third-parts kind of just feel more like part two of two.
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Wheat Loaf posted:The original movie benefits enormously from Liam Neeson's bizarre facial expressions and weird accent. The definitive Darkman scene is unquestionably Ted Raimi getting splattered
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Now I wanna watch Darkman, but I don't know if it's on Blu-ray 
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Iron Crowned posted:Now I wanna watch Darkman, but I don't know if it's on Blu-ray I've got it on HD-DVD! 
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Apr 20, 2018 16:56
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Iron Crowned posted:Now I wanna watch Darkman, but I don't know if it's on Blu-ray It looks like Shout! Factory has a blu!
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Superman 1978 takes a little more time to go through the whole Krypton and Smallville sequences but Superman pulls on the tights and is flying around Metropolis saving Lois from dying in a helicopter crash and catching criminals and getting a little girl's cat out of a tree (and dropping the worst quips) at a little over 1 hr after the opening credits. I know they were (mostly) filmed back to back, but was Superman always supposed to be two movies or was it intended as a big epic length feature with an intermission? As I recall, replacement-director Lester had previously wanted to do a four-hour roadshow version of The Three Musketeers adapting the novel in full, but they split it up instead.
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Apr 20, 2018 17:04
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The MSJ posted:Darkman never had a series, but this Marvel (technically Malibu) character have dozens of episodes? Oh hey, the President is on this show
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X-Ray Pecs posted:It looks like Shout! Factory has a blu! The Blu is amazing, and there's more special features than what's listed on the back. New interviews with Liam and Frances, for one. The only sad thing is there's nothing recent from Sam Raimi, only footage from an old EPK that came out when the movie was released. Highlights: Frances talking about being unsure about about being interviewed for the Blu-Ray, until she asked her make up artist if he had ever heard of Darkman, and the make up artist saying how much he loved Darkman. And Liam revealing that he still owns the hat and coat.
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Iron Crowned posted:I have thought that Reboot was always terrible. I think it was just a product of it's time, CGI was new and neat and so were computers. I think a more modern origin story of Ghostbusters today would be starting at Venkman's childhood, and a fascination with decks of cards led him to be the skeeviest psychology professor in the tristate area.
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The MSJ posted:Darkman never had a series, but this Marvel (technically Malibu) character have dozens of episodes? (Executive at Batman control panel) (Turns “Bats” dial to 0) (Turns “saxophone” dial to 11) “I am a genius.”
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Shageletic posted:I think a more modern origin story of Ghostbusters today would be starting at Venkman's childhood, and a fascination with decks of cards led him to be the skeeviest psychology professor in the tristate area. The first thing I thought of was Magic The Gathering.
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:Exterior. Gotham alley. Night. JOE CHILL approaches a wealthy family. What I like best about it is how time efficient it is.
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Can we have that as an actual movie? With Gary Oldman and David Mazouz? Because that's how it's cast in my head.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I know they were (mostly) filmed back to back, but was Superman always supposed to be two movies or was it intended as a big epic length feature with an intermission? Donner did film the two movies together based on the massive script from (Godfather writer) Mario Puzo. From Wikipedia: quote:It was decided to film both Superman and its sequel Superman II (1980) simultaneously, with principal photography beginning in March 1977 and ending in October 1978. Tensions arose between Donner and the producers, and a decision was made to stop filming the sequel, of which 75 percent had already been completed, and finish the first film.[4] Lester's stuff is mostly reshoots to give the sequel a more comedic tone.
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whydirt posted:Not casting Kesha as the lead of the Jem reboot was a missed opportunity. Come one, she's perfect as Pizzazz! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IFFiU5GFnY
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whydirt posted:Not casting Kesha as the lead of the Jem reboot was a missed opportunity. Isn't Kesha trying to get away from her previous image since it was a manufactured byproduct of sexual and emotional abuse?
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:Exterior. Gotham alley. Night. JOE CHILL approaches a wealthy family. TWIST: Joe Chill never existed and Bruce killed his own parents to give himself a "reason" to be a monster. (somebody's done this in the last 80 years right)
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SimonCat posted:Come on, she's perfect as Pizzazz! This sounds like a folksy mom phrase. "Mom, do I have to wear this? I feel so lame." "Aw honey, you look as perfect as pizzazz!"
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Thwomp posted:Donner did film the two movies together based on the massive script from (Godfather writer) Mario Puzo. Right - so it was always intended as two movies, filmed back to back, rather than one big movie?
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Thwomp posted:Lester's stuff is mostly reshoots to give the sequel a more comedic tone. Some director-for-hire stepping in to make a Superman movie "more comedic"? Unprecedented!
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Lester is probably a better director than Joss Whedon, though. Better track record going in, certainly.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Lester is probably a better director than Joss Whedon, though. Better track record going in, certainly. Hard Day’s Night alone is better than everything Whedon has been associated with, and I’ll cop to Buffy and Angel being some of my favorite soap operas as a teenager. And that’s probably not Lester’s best movie
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Wheat Loaf posted:Lester is probably a better director than Joss Whedon, though. Better track record going in, certainly. Oh I wasn't insulting him at all.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Right - so it was always intended as two movies, filmed back to back, rather than one big movie? They were actually filmed simultaneously , the Salklinds had done that before with their "The Three Musketeers" and "The Four Musketeers" film. And got into some legal trouble for the Musketeers films, since the paid everyone for just one film, since they were filming everything together.
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This looks like big news. And big news has big guts. Rip and tear. https://twitter.com/ninabergman/status/986377088989937664
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I will cross my fingers in the hope that they make a good movie out of that. Mostly being a kickass space marine lady blasting the hell out of demons on Mars, if the most obvious solution I can think of comes to pass.
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The MSJ posted:This looks like big news. And big news has big guts. Rip and tear. Ooh I bet some movie marketing department is pissed as hell that news about this was revealed on Twitter
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The Shooter Scene From Wreck-It Ralph Only Unironically: the Movie
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The MSJ posted:This looks like big news. And big news has big guts. Rip and tear. 
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