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Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service


Words cannot describe how hyped I am about this. :allears:

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GhostStalker
Mar 26, 2010

Guys, find a woman who looks at you the way GhostStalker looks at every bald, obese, single 58 year old accountant from Tulsa who managed to win $4,000 by not wagering on a Final Jeopardy triple stumper.

Azzur posted:




: Hahaha. This is gonna suck.

:munch: This is gonna be good.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Steve Buscemi as blood gut. You know you want it

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.

bunnyofdoom posted:

Steve Buscemi as blood gut. You know you want it

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service


"You're out of your element, Bloodgut."

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.

Dr. Snark posted:

"You're out of your element, Bloodgut."



I wish I had the proof that I drew this before I saw your post, but let's just say that great minds think alike.

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.
poo poo, I'd better not get a rep for being "the guy who draws people like Warcraft characters." It's already bad enough that I'm essentially a glorified fanfic writer.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Azzur posted:

poo poo, I'd better not get a rep for being "the guy who draws people like Warcraft characters." It's already bad enough that I'm essentially a glorified fanfic writer.

At least it'll be a rep as "the guy who draws people like Warcraft characters really darn well." Could be worse!

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Azzur posted:



I wish I had the proof that I drew this before I saw your post, but let's just say that great minds think alike.

"AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GIVES A gently caress ABOUT THE RULES!? IT'S PRONOUNCED 'MAGIC!'"

(Seriously it is way too drat easy to reskin Big Lebowski quotes for this lot)

wedgekree
Feb 20, 2013
This will be glorious

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.
Tonight will see our first Interlude chapter and tomorrow will be our next update (orcs again, everyone!). Expect the MOT3K to come some time next week.

(Also, would Vilefeast be the Dude?)

Black Balloon
Dec 28, 2008

The literal grumpiest



I cannot express how happy I am that this exists, much less continuing. Thanks for your work Azzur. I really mean that.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Azzur posted:

Tonight will see our first Interlude chapter and tomorrow will be our next update (orcs again, everyone!). Expect the MOT3K to come some time next week.

(Also, would Vilefeast be the Dude?)

: Me think that just, like, your opinion.


Edit: Actually, wouldn't mag'fon make more sense?

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Azzur posted:

Tonight will see our first Interlude chapter and tomorrow will be our next update (orcs again, everyone!). Expect the MOT3K to come some time next week.

(Also, would Vilefeast be the Dude?)

NewMars posted:

: Me think that just, like, your opinion.


Edit: Actually, wouldn't mag'fon make more sense?

Hmm...it's a tough call.

Option A:

quote:

: Vilefeast abides.

: Do you even know what that word means?

: Me commend skull of human to sea!

: So that's a no then.

Option B:

quote:

: Mag'fon abides, mon.

: Your accent is still awful, you know that?

: Dat's just, like, joo 'pinion, mon.

: Yes, but it's the right opinion, "mon."

I dunno. Both options have their own charm to them.

Dr. Snark fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Apr 20, 2018

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.

INTRODUCING MY NEW HEAD WRITER.

lobster22221
Jul 11, 2017
The dude abides.

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.


Meanwhile, in New Stormwind...



: I'm getting tired of waiting. What did that mage call us here for anyway?

: Patience, friend. All will be revealed with Khadgar's arrival.

: He'd best hurry, the confines of this town are... irksome.



: Then I bring good news, Mistress Alleria, for we shall not stay here long.

: Mages and their words hidden in mystery. What is it already?

: Nethergarde Keep has fallen into the hands of the orcs.

: Hah! With what army? Their forces are scattered. Are you telling me that there's enough leadership left to launch an attack?

: Could have been those orcs holed up in Blackrock Spire still.

: The Black Tooth Grin? Dalran and Stormwind both have men stationed in the foothills. We would have known if there was movement.



: We will touch upon that in a moment. I called you here because I have an ill feeling in my chest that something is amiss, but we should handle these latest problems one at a time. First-

: We kick those orcs out of Nethergarde!

: Indeed. I would like your assistance in that matter, Sir Trollbane.

: What of us, friend?

: Speak for yourself. We are not bound at the hip, human.

: Alleria...

: I need you to start marshalling troops and gathering supplies. I fear that this attack on Nethergarde was just the beginning. The forces near Blackrock-

: A token force at best.

: -they've been routed. And a message has been left.

: That's-!



: I demand to bring my men along with this excursion!

Later, outside Khadgar's meeting room...

: ...and that's when they kicked you out, huh?

: That message was for me, Gaz! He's back! Necksmasher is back!

: There's no way that Khadgar is going to allow us along. Guy is such a prick. I'm glad he got all cursed with wrinkles or whatever.

: Well, I'm with ya, lad. I've got a bit o' anger ta git out after tha' troll gave me this here scar.

: I thought you said it was "a babe magnet."

: Tha' doesn't mean I ain't gonna get revenge fer it! If tha' troll weren't stuck in tha' prison cell...

: You mean the one that fell to the orcs?

: Ach! Tha's right! Hahahahaha! HAHAHAHAHA!

: Of course you would be happy about the guy you hate breaking out of the prison that you were supposed to be guarding.



: Captain Wells? Get your men. We're going to Nethergarde.

: Ah! At once, Sir Trollbane!

: ...don't make me regret this.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
Nice Interlude update. Poor Wells, having to wait for his revenge. :) Still two Heroes yet to see.

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.
Oh, man, watching this Warcraft movie again is a special treat. There's a lot more shouting of, "How does THAT even begin to make sense?" and it has nothing to do with the magical orc aliens using magic to beat up humans.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Not good, now you're making me want to actually watch that thing.

Asehujiko
Apr 6, 2011
I think Odyn is my favourite lore addition with Legion because he's not being corrupted by anything and is still 100% on the good side but he just can't help being an enormous dick to his allies and driving them apart.

SirSystemError
Jan 3, 2018

You know it occurs to me. Wells saw Necksmasher leave through the portal. The fact that he left a message saying he's back kind of brings up the point that it's been reopened before it's brought up proper in the Human Campaign story.

Though on the other hand it fits and makes for some irony. We have Wells and co. being pushed aside because human heroes, and yet because of Necksmasher's message they might realize what's going on before anyone else does.

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.


Episode 7: New Stormwind or Stormwind 2: The Revenge of Necksmasher

Mission Briefing

: Fine job securing the dragons for our cause, Necksmasher.

: Mmmmmostly just killed a bunch of humans.

: Uh, excuse me, Chief-mon? Er... Chief-mons.

: ...



: Ah, but, it's jus' dat we be in deep ta enemy territory and uh...



: What're we doin' here, mon?

: This meeting is meant only for higher ups within the army, Mag'fon.

: Eh? But den... why're you here, Bloodbelly?

: He takes notes for me. He's like a... whatchacallit...

: Assistant?

: Slave.

: Rehehe...

: And why is Vile-mon here?! He's no higher up!

: I have been unable to... expunge him.

: Me sticky!



: And I have very serious concerns about that. That said, I begun work on a lumber mill to the north. Whoever set up this camp has no idea about defensive positioning.

: This was my camp.

: Haha, way to screw up, slave. Anyway...

: Ain't nobody gonn' answer my question?



: I am taking my men to the north. We will silence any sentries.



: 'Dis is suicide, mon! 'Dis is Stormwind! Home o' da humans!

: No way! It too soon for last boss!

: Da land is crawlin' wit' humans, mon! What are we doin' 'ere?!

: Wow, that accent gets really strong when you're shouting.



: It's... troubling, yes. However, we have to trust Lord Gorefiend. We require an artifact of great power that is within the walls of the human capital.

: I thought it was a book.



: Correct. The Book of Medivh, who was the most powerful wizard among the humans during the First War.

: Who? ...did we kill that guy?



: No. Don't you remember the debriefing I gave you after we took Stormwind the first time?

: Hahahahaha!

: Of course not. Medivh was killed by-

: Me?





This mission, like so many others in the expansion, requires some quick movement. You'll see why in a moment. But the first goal is securing this gold mine. You are straight up assaulting Stormwind in this mission and it feels just as difficult as it was the first time around in Warcraft: Orcs & Humans.

: I dunno, it seems pretty plausible that Vilefeast killed the most powerful stage magician or whatever.

: Me have killed many magic men. Me never learn their names. But me name their skulls.



: Me an' da rest o' da troll be tinkin' dat maybe did whole "Horde" ting is a bad idea, mon. I mean... Stormwind?

: Hey, hey... keep your voice down, muttonchops.



: I have returned. The mission proceeds apace. The humans lay still in the earth and none know of our presence.

: Hey, yup. Totally cool. No talk of mutiny among these ranks!

: There is more flesh to curl from blackened bones.

: You must be a hit at parties.



: Alright, he's gone. Look, tusks-for-brains, I don't like this wolf dung any more than you.

: Den why, Chief-mon?

: Why? Because this isn't about the Horde! This is about securing OUR freedom! Our freedom to build a new home away from all of this stupid poo poo! Away from humans. Away from magic.

: Away from da elves?

: Yeah, sure, why not?



: ...well, I guess a lil' more fightin' never hurt nobody.

: That is literally incorrect. And grammatically, too.



Do you see what I see? Please note: Only 1 minute into the mission so far.



Yup. Griffin rider time! I'm sure it won't be a be problem. I mean, the last level for the humans in Tides of Darkness had a nonstop barrage of dragons, but that was the last level! This is only halfway through the expansion. It should be fine. Right?

: What was that you just told Mag'fon?

: It's called a lie. Are you unfamiliar with this concept? Let me demonstrate.

: Chieftain, you have to tell him that this is all about your mad quest for vengeance!

: Wow, Bloodgut, you're so smart and talented and I really respect your input.

: Oh. Oh! Why, Chieftain, thank you so mu-...Oh. This is your demonstration.

: Try and keep up, slave.

: Really not thrilled that you're sticking with that title.

: Uhh... mon, is dat Gorefiend comin' our way?



: The mission is compromised. The mission is compromised.

: What is he talking about?

: Compromise mean when you and your friend agree to split human in half to share. Bloodgut teach me that.

: I definitely did not.



: Oh... mon...

: Netherspit. Alright, troll. Do that thing where you throw sharp rocks at giant bird-lions ridden by bearded midgets.



: I wan'ta argue, Chief-mon, but dat is fairly spot on.



: This has gone horribly wrong. The humans were not supposed to have defenses ready for us. Someone must have noticed our movements.

: Perhaps when we stormed their keep.

: Maybe when me kill one hundred human yesterday.

: Maybe that note I left written in blood.



: What was that, Necksmasher?

: Hm? Oh, I said, "Maybe someone left TRACKS in the MUD."



Hey, more gryphons!



: Chief-mon, 'dis is jus' what I was sayin'. 'Dis is Stormwind!

: NEW Stormwind. The humans haven't had time to prepare defenses. And even if they did-

: We destroyed them the first time around anyway.



If anyone is masochistic enough to be playing this alongside me at home, let me just recommend prioritizing upgrades for your axethrowers. I'm not joking, there are A LOT of gryphon riders on this map. We're less than three minutes in and all of my gold has gone towards axe upgrades.

: We're taking da good axes, mon.

: So you're staying with us, Mag'fon?

: ...Well, I sorta owe ya my life, Bloodbelly. Aaaa... well, les' get ta suicide chargin' den.

: Looks like our two zombie wizards are way ahead of you.

Outside the gates of New Stormwind...



: We can salvage this. We must work quickly to stop the spread of news of our arrival.

: I agree, Teron'gor.



: ...finally able to take command of that body?

: It comesss and goesss...

Back at base...



: Anyway get this weird chill? Like some sort of weird revelation just dawned on you?

: It IS a little cold north of the portal, yes. As well, I feel as though this will not be the quick smash and grab that Lord Gorefiend is hoping for.

: 'Dose towers would be very helpful, mon. I hope we don't have'ta use dem, howeva'.

: Well, you just doomed us to using them. Way to go.



: Aaaaahhhhhh! Birdie man!

: Trolls. To arms.

: Uhh?



: NOW.

: Told you.



: ...maybe a few more towers are in our best interest.

: What are you saying? This is a simple matter. Break through the gates, grab the book, and abscond. We have no need to set up fortifications.

: I mean, you say that. But...



: Would that the Nether consumed this land already.



: Teron'gor! Err... Uh, Hood face man. I shall swing my axe at the humans. With intent to kill!



: Wow, those elocution lessons you've been having with him are really paying off, Bloodgut.



: Flee, Teron! Sssssave yourssssself!

: Chieftain? Doesn't Vilefeast sound strange to you?



: I mean, yeah. Pretty much all the time. He's kind of dumb, in case you haven't noticed.

: Uh, Chief-mon? A little help here? Da yellow cloak wizard is in trouble!



: I shall handle this. MORTAL. YOUR SOUL IS MINE.



Oh yeah, if Teron Gorefiend dies on this mission, it's game over again. Pime Taradox! I also got to death coil (with nice, amazing incorrect icons that came at launch!) the soul right out of this guy for a little healing. Guess what Teron's going to be doing for the rest of the map? Answer below!

: Well. See? Everything was fine.

: Foolsssss. Errr... Huh? Me wake up covered in blood again? Me not even drunk.



If you guessed that Gorefiend was gonna sit in the corner of the map surrounded by farms, you'd be correct!

: Let's conscript some goblins to get the lay of the land for us.



Just a quick shot for posterity. I'm leaving the rest of these out, but there is a constant barrage of gryphon attacks from the word "go." In all honesty, they aren't all that powerful, but they definitely whittle away at your limited forces while you're still trying to build up.

: You'd betta' hurry, Bloodbelly! Dese dwarves be angry!

: What? Angry? We're just trying to steal a stupid book! Books suck! Now we gotta kill 'em all! I'd be more angry about the genocide than I would the thievery!



: I don't tink dat dey know we're not trying to kill them.

: What? We not? But... but...

: Relax, we're obviously going to kill them all.

: Yay!





: Reports coming in from a Kul Tiras base hidden in the foothills to the east, Chieftain.

: And?



: It seems they have a rich vein of gold that could be put to good use by our men.

: I like that.



: ...and two aeries filled with gryphons.

: I do NOT like that.

: It's no problem, mon. We jus' bust in and kill 'em all.

: We... would. Save that there's no passage through the rocky terrain. They've blocked it off.

: Ugh. I hate humans. Call up the goblins. We have need of them again.



: Well... I've run into some problems with funding.

: Problems with funding? Where is our gold?!

Earlier...



: I decided to take control of the gold mine to the north. I just needed to secure its defenses.





: Ah, yes, that should be fine. Now we'll just get a hall here so the men have a place to stay.

: That's about when-



: -the humans attacked.



: AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

: Yes, that would explain the severe bleeding.

: You don't seem too concerned.

: If possible, I'd like to look completely unconcerned.

: Me in black and white, too!



: That was when I called in Mag'fon's men to handle the defenses.

: Mag'fon! Bring your men to the northern base! We have need of you!

: It wasn't like dat, mon. It was more like...

: OH GODS! HELP ME, MAG'FON!

: Rashomon, mon!



: And that's about when the ballista began their assault.

: This is the most boring story. So did you die, or what?

: Wait, wait, you're missin' da good part.



: I'll save you, Bloodbelly!





: It definitely didn't happen like that.

: You say "definitely" a lot. Maybe you not know what it mean.

: So...

: Hm?

: HIRE THE drat GOBLINS ALREADY!

Back in the color filled present...



: Ah, yes. It seems we do have some gold lying around.

: Me miss black and white me already.



: Welcome to our stealth mission. I need you to go blow some poo poo up.





: This my favorite part!



: Uhhhh...

: That sucked!

: I can't help but feel like we've forgotten something...

At the northern encampment...







Look at this! Just look! Those are level 5 footmen. That means they are fully upgraded with damage and armor as well as their knight/paladin allies. We haven't begun to even really break out of our own base! This expansion has well earned its title of being unfair.

: It's probably nothing. Come on, let's get some popcorn and hire more goblins.

: By da Blood God's fangs!



: Hey! That's MY thing. Ahem. Son of a gronn milker!



: Chieftain! Why do I always have to do this?!



: It put hair on chest. No, wait... that blood.

: You have to earn your seat at the dining hall, Bloodgut.

: You use me as a footstool and flick the scraps beneath the table.

: And you have to earn that right.





: Mon, me men ain't battle ready no mo'.

: Wait, what?

: It means we have no way of dealing with the dwarves.

: Sure we do. Send the ogres.



: What, and have them punch the gryphons out of the sky?

: Who won the First War and Second War here?

: Doomhammer. And we lost the Second War.



: Shut up and watch.





Yup, I ran out of trolls at this point. Thankfully, this game is still from 1996 and the AI isn't THAT amazing. Sure it can look like it's smart, but that's only because it brutally keeps up the pressure, never letting you breathe. If the AI sees a new softer, easier target, it's going to chase it down.



: I cannot believe this is working. Are dwarves this stupid?



Aaaaaand right into my towers.

: They wear vests made out of gunpowder when they aren't naked riding lion-eagles. Did you think they were brilliant?



: Speaking of combustible idiots. Welcome to the army! Healthcare is NOT provided.







: This is going to take an eternity.

Maybe, like, two hours later...



: Come on... come on... Stupid humans.



: He ain't gonn' make it!

: He has to!

: He will. He won't die here today!



: I mean, he will. He just won't die all pointlessly. Now he can die because rocks suck.

: We've got our opening. Vilefeast, Mag'fon. You're up.



There are a few ways to handle the problem of Kul Tiras. You could just mass up some dragons and storm the place. I tried that and let me tell you... not a good idea. You could also pick away at the fringes with catapults, but they're pretty slow moving and the constant pressure from Lordaeron (blue) and the gryphons actually make this difficult. However, make a big enough hole and you can just slip an army in.

: How goes the mission, Necksmasher?

: Oh, jeez! Forgot you were still here. Uh, it's going well. We've just broken through Kul Tiras's barricade and we're ready to rout the little bastards.



: Kul Tiras? We. Are here. For the Book of Medivh.

: The what?

: Just a small stepping stone, Lord Gorefiend. We intend to extract the information from the soldiers there.

: Do not fail me.



: Enjoy the farmland, spooky britches. Bloodgut?

: Hmm?

: We don't take prisoners.



: I know that, Chieftain. I wouldn't have sent Vilefeast if I thought that was the case. We don't need Lord Gorefiend breathing down our necks while we work.

: He doesn't breathe. It's, like, a whole thing with not being alive.





: You take 'em out on da ground, Vile-mon. Me and da boys got 'em from da sky.



: Me think we don't talk much, Maggy.



: ...I was in a human prison fer two years, mon.

: Haha, yeah. Why you not just break walls and kill everyone?



: Let's jus' break ground 'ere. Ya scare me sometimes.

: One time me break wall AND kill everyone at same time. Best surprise party.

Back at Gorefiend's base...



: Our forces are ready to move, Chieftain.

: Not without a scouting report. I don't want our men dying from lack of information.





: Unfortunately, our goblin scout was killed in action.

: Hm. We need a scout for that scout. Nah, too expensive. Move out!



: I mean, who puts farms on the battlefield?

: I think people lived there. This is sort of their home.

: Haha, that's dumb. Build a temple on their crappy ashes.



: Right away, Chieftain.



: 'Ey, Chief-mon, we back.

: Oh, good, you're just in time. We're gonna go blow up a castle.

: Neat.



: Hahahahaha! We're back, bitches! Remember me?!



: Uh, Chief-mon? Did one o' dose ogres turn inta a sheep?

: That is... troubling.



: Aw, crap! They're using magic! That's not fair! Why don't they go back to using insects and water monsters and crap?



: Chieftain, why not fight magik with magik?

: That's not how you say it!

: Besides, we're doing quite fine without the dumb idiot skeleton brigade.

: Hey!

: Present company excluded. Besides, you've got a bunch of meat on you.







: See? Good ol' death wagons. I invented them, you know.

: You stole the designs from the humans.

: Right. Invented.



: Haha! Human mage! Your magic cannot save you now!



: What the Nether is going on.



I feel like I've talked about Fire Shield once already, but it always deserves a second mention. This spell is a pain in the hand of the AI. When cast, it coats the target in a wreathe of circling flames that damages all nearby units. You have to move them out of the way quickly or start losing a ton of health from your clustered army.

: Oooh! Me want fire clothes!

: Why? You don't even wear clothes.

: Cloak is clothes.

: Loincloths are clothes, mon.

: Absolutely wrong on both counts.

Elsewhere...



: Lord Gorefiend? Perhaps we could borrow some of your acolytes for our mission?

: The book is still not within your hands? What of your stealth team? Have they found nothing?

On the front lines...



: HAHAHAHA BLOOD! BLOOD! KILL! KILL!

: BURN DA ELVES, MON!

Back at the Temple of the Damned...

: The stealth team is doing well. I just think that we could... expedite things.

: Very well.



: Thank you, lord.

: ...you are very strange.

Within the walls of New Stormwind...



: Haha! Dragons, burn that tower to the ground!

: Shouldn't we be looking for some sort o' book, Chief-mon?

: What? Why?

: Why are you da Chief?



: Rocks melting!

: Oh, come on.



: No, no, no! Stupid wight!



: Oh, great. You made it explode in a super cool and rad way. We could have handled this with the death wagons!

: I doubt that very much, Necksmasher.



: My men-

: Can they still be called men if they aren't alive?

: -are coming to secure the book.



: Can you have a gender if you're dead? Aren't you just... a thing?

: Me find this very offensive.



: Now then, calling forth protection from beyond the ken of mortals, we can wrap our men with armor of pure darkness.

: So lame.



: Behold, humans! As we- wait, no.





All of these spells went off simultaneously. For those not paying attention, it was a Fireball straight through the mass of death knights, a Polymorph spell to instantly "kill" one, and a Fire Shield to scatter the rest.

: They've already rebuilt? No matter. The plan has not changed. Raze this city to the ground!



Meanwhile, I managed to cast Haste which (as you can probably guess) increases the movement speed of the target. It also increases the attack speed of some units. In the case of death knights, it increases their spellcasting speed, which only applies to one spell: Death and Decay. It's a weird interaction.

: Show these mages that their arcane fiddling holds no candle to the power of the dead!





And then the mages cast Slow and the rest of my spells wore off.

: Ah.



: Super great job. Very proud of you.



: Now... My boys are taking over from here.



: WOOOO! BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD!

: Such sweet boys.





: My men shall lend their aid as well. The very land will swallow these humans whole.

: "Human's hole." Reheehee.



: Keep your eyes open for the Book of Medivh.

: The what?



: 'Ey, Bloodbelly. Perhaps in tha' big keep there?

: Yeah! Let's blow that thing up!



: Chieftain, no! We don't have all day to sift through the ashes for a HIGHLY FLAMMABLE book.

: I still have no idea what you're talking about.

: It means pull back your men, Necksmasher. I will handle this from here.



: Oh. Victory?

: Victory, Chieftain.

: The damned book isn't here?!

: Ruh-roh!

Azzur fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Jul 5, 2018

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
This was a great update, even better than usual. The banter was spot on.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
This level is where my usual style of Destroy All Humans gets me. So drat many of them with such a competent AI. Yeah, you just need to take down the Castle to win, but there are so many other tempting targets. I usually end up with infrastructure, defense, Gryphons, and Mages as priorities. And guess what- yep, it gets worse. I think the next Orc Mission is my favorite one- you’ll see why.

And yes, the banter was spot on. Although I don’t know how we’re going to solve the problem of Vilefeast’s Dark Passenger. Ah well, unlife finds a way.

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.
Aw, thanks guys. It's really good to get feedback. I felt good about it as it was being written, sort of like I was getting the characters back into my headspace a little more. I have to remember that I haven't really tried writing for them in so long, so I'm hoping that the first few updates haven't been too painful.

painedforever
Sep 12, 2017

Quem Deus Vult Perdere, Prius Dementat.
DUN DUN DUNNNN!

To be continued...?

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.

painedforever posted:

To be continued...?

drat, I hope so! I don't think we could take another gap like last time.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013

Azzur posted:

drat, I hope so! I don't think we could take another gap like last time.

Can't wait to read the finale in 2118 from my moonbase.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Azzur posted:

I have to remember that I haven't really tried writing for them in so long, so I'm hoping that the first few updates haven't been too painful.

Legitimately I've been hype for every single update, from where I'm sitting, you've got nothing to worry about.

Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

Azzur posted:

Aw, thanks guys. It's really good to get feedback. I felt good about it as it was being written, sort of like I was getting the characters back into my headspace a little more. I have to remember that I haven't really tried writing for them in so long, so I'm hoping that the first few updates haven't been too painful.

Look, I am legitimately interested to see how this mess with Vileweaver or whatever we're calling him/them now plays out. You're doing fine.

Edit: Also your thread is Gold. You're definitely doing fine.

Dr. Snark fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Apr 21, 2018

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
Holy crap it's back!

Okay, time to get some stuff off my chest, there are some comments on a few of these chapters I've wanted to make for years:

Hellscreaming Mad: I really don't know why the enemies in this mission are white. It's absolutely supposed to be the Laughing Skull clan you're fighting. As for the prisoners, I think they're supposed to be more Warsong Orcs, but since Grom is already red, and they like giving Heroes their own unique color, they went with the closest, being orange. Which, incidentally, is at this point the Bleeding Hollow's colors as of BTDP's clan-color-scheme. That's right, the Bleeding Hollow Clan is the only clan to be represented by TWO different colors within Warcraft 2!

Fat Jokes: Yeah, nothing much to say here. Hellscream coming in to kill Hurkan is accurate, too. Love the touch of adding the cape and hat to the grunt you start with to turn it into Nigel.

Clan Pinecone: Again, nothing much to say.

Can Love Bloom on the Battlefield: To be specific, I believe Danath is Thoras' nephew.

The Knight in Yellow: I won't lie, on this mission I basically wall my base in with towers because of those goddamn paladins. They will sprint across the goddamn map through the valley of death itself trying to get at Teron to Exorcism his rear end. It's madness. Also, that purple base? It starts the map with literally nothing but a town hall and a single peasant. Early aggression is REWARDED on this map, and yes they absolutely will build into an actual threat.

Deathwing's Death Wagon Death March: Fun fact, this game was written well before the Dragonflights as we know them even existed. There was no "Black Dragonflight", there were just dragons, and their queen. Deathwing was described as black merely to differentiate him. In fact, this is STILL the case in the cancelled "Lord of the Clans" game, which portrayed Alexstrasza as a more typical dragon, somewhat cruel and quite hostile, while Deathwing is portrayed as "her rebellious son" who wants to overthrow her. Also, the AI is absolutely NOT passive on this map, and the fact that they never attacked you is beyond confusing to me. Purple generally spams gryphons on this map while Blue hits you with standard land-based attack forces. Ballistas, archers, knights, etc.

The Revenge of Necksmasher: Yeah, those gryphons suck. And it wasn't until I saw someone else playing the mission just recently that I thought to myself "WHY IN ALL MY YEARS DID I NEVER THINK TO MURDER TEAL FIRST?!?" Also, as a small nitpick, Death Knights wield purely Necromantic powers, not Fel magic. It's basically the only reason Doomhammer accepted them at all and didn't just re-kill them all.

Geomancing
Jan 8, 2004

I am not an egghead. I am well-read.
I read all of Khadgar's lines in his voice from WoW. I expected him to tell Wells to collect a large, arbitrary number of doodads if he wanted to go on the mission.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!

Geomancing posted:

I read all of Khadgar's lines in his voice from WoW. I expected him to tell Wells to collect a large, arbitrary number of doodads if he wanted to go on the mission.

Just wait...

Kurgarra Queen
Jun 11, 2008

GIVE ME MORE
SUPER BOWL
WINS

Let me just say that I'm happy this is back. I did not know how much I missed the tale of Nigel Necksmasher and Captain Wells until I saw this topic after all those long years. I think you hit the sweet-spot on the writing, Azzur: it's comedic, but not without drama, and self-aware enough to be genuinely campy, but not overbearingly so.

Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.

BlazetheInferno posted:

Holy crap it's back!

Okay, time to get some stuff off my chest, there are some comments on a few of these chapters I've wanted to make for years:

Hellscreaming Mad: I really don't know why the enemies in this mission are white. It's absolutely supposed to be the Laughing Skull clan you're fighting. As for the prisoners, I think they're supposed to be more Warsong Orcs, but since Grom is already red, and they like giving Heroes their own unique color, they went with the closest, being orange. Which, incidentally, is at this point the Bleeding Hollow's colors as of BTDP's clan-color-scheme. That's right, the Bleeding Hollow Clan is the only clan to be represented by TWO different colors within Warcraft 2!

The Revenge of Necksmasher: Yeah, those gryphons suck. And it wasn't until I saw someone else playing the mission just recently that I thought to myself "WHY IN ALL MY YEARS DID I NEVER THINK TO MURDER TEAL FIRST?!?" Also, as a small nitpick, Death Knights wield purely Necromantic powers, not Fel magic. It's basically the only reason Doomhammer accepted them at all and didn't just re-kill them all.

Oh, jeez! Beyond the Dark Portal is tricky with these colors. And I actually wrote myself a note to fix all the "fel" references before this update went live. ...then I started drinking and... well, here we are. I'll get to fixing these problems right away!

For your diligence, you have earned the first medal of the new thread! Congratulations, BlazetheInferno, for you are Necksmasher's Honorary Chieftain!

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

Lance of Llanwyln posted:

I think you hit the sweet-spot on the writing, Azzur: it's comedic, but not without drama, and self-aware enough to be genuinely campy, but not overbearingly so.

So it's like Blizzard's when they're on the ball? :v:

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
Also, a fun fact about Mogor: while the Mogor that Nigel dealt with (it can be suggested that he's the lone ogre hanging with the Death Knights at the end of that first orc map, but as he doesn't have his own unit, no one can say for sure) did indeed have his death witnessed by WoW players...

Much as I hesitate to bring up more WoW lore, in the recent Warlords of Draenor expansion, which saw players travel to an alternate version of Draenor set before the invasion of Azeroth of the First War, players can find a younger Mogor, not yet in charge of the Laughing Skulls... and with a single head. From this, we can infer that he was likely one of the Ogres that went through Gul'dan's ritual using the stolen Runestone of Caer Darrow (see the Tides of Darkness LP!), thus gaining a second head in the process, one of the effects of that ritual upon normal, single-headed ogres.

If anyone wants me to edit or spoiler any of this out, please let me know and I will do so. I don't think it really spoils anything we'll see in the LP though, but let's see what the people say.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Another fun fact about Mogor: his Hearthstone card is awesome.

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Azzur
Nov 11, 2009

Victory.
I did this awhile back, but I'm curious since we have a lot of newer readers or people who couldn't participate the first time around, so here's a little informal question:

What is your experience with the Warcraft series?

I'm curious to see how many people have played the older titles, and doubly interested for people that have experience with Beyond the Dark Portal. How many of you went on to play Warcraft 3? World of Warcraft? Where did you start playing and when did you quit? Did you quit?

So, for me, Warcraft: Orcs and Humans was my first computer game. My family didn't have a lot of money growing up, but my dad had a keen interest in keeping me "technologically literate," ("It's the language of the future, son!") so we had a computer. The cover of the box looked cool to my dad and he bought it for me with zero intention of ever playing it himself. I was about 7 years old and mostly knew about video games through playing Nintendo (or SNES at the rich kid's house) with my friends. Warcraft was pretty different. I had no idea how to play for a solid month and I didn't even think to read the rules in the manual (though I did draw orcs and ogres from the back of the book and greedily read every little bit of fiction in there).

After learning the game, I remember beating the orc campaign after a several tries. For some reason, as a kid, I never beat the human campaign. At that time, I couldn't stop talking to my friends about Warcraft and I remember that my next door neighbor and I starting trading any rumors we could about Warcraft 2. When the game came out, the two of us snagged our copies (as quickly as two kids without cars can) and rushed home to play. I disc the game over to sleep overs to install on friends' computers and play through the night with them. I was pretty hooked and I slowly got my surrounding circle of friends hooked, too. So when Beyond the Dark Portal came out, it was a first day purchase. (It's a long and weird story, but I was working in a circus at the time, so I fastidiously saving money with my little part time job.)

Years passed and I forgot about Warcraft. Probably because Beyond the Dark Portal was so drat hard that I completely gave up on ever beating it without cheat codes. When Warcraft 3 came out, I was far behind all of my friends. My computer at the time couldn't even run Starcraft without imploding. I very carefully saved up money to buy a new computer, but I was now in high school and my circus work was taking a backseat to school. After a few months, I had a used computer that barely ran WC3 that I set up in my parents' basement and played obsessively. Still terrible at it, though! And just in time for Frozen Throne, too!

Of course, this trajectory meant only one thing: I was going to be a World of Warcraft player. I waited until after graduating, thankfully, but that game consumed my life. To an unhealthy point, actually. I remember clocking in something like 12 hours one day and showing up for a job interview without having gotten any sleep. That's when I started to think that I might have had a problem. I was going to college, working a full time job (washing dishes and serving food in a hospital), and for some reason raiding late at night and into the early mornings. Something had to give and I wasn't about to let it be my education.

So I quit WoW cold turkey. And as any addict can tell you, that's not easy. I suddenly felt like I had a lot of free time and all the friends that I had made online were suddenly cut off from me in a sense. Thanks to my previous gaming addiction, I didn't have a healthy social life, so I would mostly sleep when I wasn't working or going to class. I needed something to fill that void. Around the same time, I had started reading Let's Plays and I thought they were really interesting. As a joke, I thought that I'd try to make one using the original Warcraft since no one had LP'ed it and it was a game that I remembered fondly (...also it had ties to WoW which still had a grip on me.)

And that's how all this started.

By the way, my life is super happy, healthy, and wonderful now. Those WoW days were dark times and maybe paints this picture of someone who I definitely am not anymore. I also think that people can and should enjoy WoW, but I'm not someone who can. (Only now it's because of lack of interest as opposed to too much interest.)

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