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hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Super union, general workers strike now.

EDIT:

I didn't see this posted but uhhhh

UHHHHHHHHH what.

https://www.cnet.com/news/australian-coal-power-plant-reopened-blockchain-bitcoin-applications/#ftag=COS-05-10aaa0j

hooman fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Apr 23, 2018

# ? Apr 23, 2018 06:38

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# ? May 23, 2024 15:53

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Caroline Wilson has a spray about the ongoing ramifications of the Goodes Affair.

quote:

At the start of 2019 Goodes will almost certainly be inducted into the Sydney Hall of Fame. A dual Brownlow medallist, dual premiership player and the AFL�s Indigenous games record-holder, it would seem a formality that he will be an automatic inductee into the Australian Football Hall of Fame when eligible at the end of 2020.

Were the honour bestowed on him today it is not certain Goodes would feel comfortable publicly accepting it. What an indictment that is on our game.

Goodes� treatment both inside and outside Australia�s football stadiums told us that Indigenous players are celebrated for their sporting brilliance until they very occasionally choose to remind us of our past. And of our racist tendencies.

And what a shame football�s governors who promoted Adam Goodes as their badge of honour could not stand up for him without mitigation when the going got tough.

Just as Adam Goodes no longer had the stomach to publicly stand up to his tormentors, the AFL hierarchy did not have the stomach for a fight it feared it could not win.

It's terrible that nothing has changed, except how careful the media management is.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 06:56

MysticalMachineGun: Apr 5, 2005

Caroline Wilson spits fire when talking about Goodes and I love it. She lays the blame squarely on the AFL's pissweak reaction and it's great.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 07:39

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-23/barry-cafe-in-northcote-accused-of-underpaying-casual-staff/9687054

Apparently this is an attempt at a workplace agreement.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 07:39

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

should be in comic sans

# ? Apr 23, 2018 07:46

swimsuit: Jan 22, 2009; yeah

unsurprising when u consider the venue and the suburb

# ? Apr 23, 2018 07:46

gucci bane: Oct 27, 2008

Every small business is guilty of that. I used to work for a pizza shop. They only paid $15 an hour in cash, no super, no penalty, and no tax.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 07:50

The Before Times: Mar 8, 2014; Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

swimsuit posted:

unsurprising when u consider the industry

retail, hospo, fast food and any franchise will be like this as well

# ? Apr 23, 2018 07:50

Laserface: Dec 24, 2004

someone was telling me the other day how they didnt get paid super at their old job because they were under 18 and everyone in the staffroom was like 'uhhhh mate might wanna check on that one'

I think he said he worked at KFC, maybe.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 07:52

Mattjpwns: Dec 14, 2006; In joyful strains then let us sing
ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FUCKED

tithin posted:

If the cfmeu absorbed the fsu I wouldn't complain.

You'd see the big banks absolutely poo poo themselves though

I'm an FSU member in a non-financial role (software engineering) and would :gizz:

everywhere if this happened.

They did good work on the EA I was on previously as a graduate

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:05

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

https://www.pollbludger.net/2018/04/22/newspoll-51-49-labor/

quote:

A point that should be noted about the Coalition�s apparent improvement in Newspoll is that at least part of it would seem to be down to an adjustment in their preference allocations from a model based purely on results from the 2016 election to one which gives the Coalition a stronger flow of One Nation preferences, presumably based on the experience of the Queensland and Western Australian state elections.

a calculation from the published, rounded primary vote totals using the 50-50 preferences model yields a 52.4-47.6 lead for Labor � a result that would have generated considerably less buzz than this, the �best Coalition result in 18 months�.

If you don't like the way the polls are trending, just edit the results

NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Apr 23, 2018

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:11

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/DbXweIMVMAAlmov.mp4

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:21

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

gucci bane posted:

Every small business is guilty of that. I used to work for a pizza shop. They only paid $15 an hour in cash, no super, no penalty, and no tax.

My old boss was pretty surprised when I informed him that casuals accrue long service leave entitlements and that i had been there long enough that he had to pay them out :toot:

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:22

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

You know what would be nice, if long service accrued continuously rather than resetting every time you change jobs.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:31

iajanus: Aug 17, 2004; NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE

Solemn Sloth posted:

My old boss was pretty surprised when I informed him that casuals accrue long service leave entitlements and that i had been there long enough that he had to pay them out

How was the rest of your last shift ever?

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:31

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Solemn Sloth posted:

My old boss was pretty surprised when I informed him that casuals accrue long service leave entitlements and that i had been there long enough that he had to pay them out

And then they smile at you like a shark and say enjoy your holiday

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:37

Cheap Trick: Jan 4, 2007

Solemn Sloth posted:

I agree assuming by sacked you mean tied in a sack and thrown into lake burley-griffin

Please do not dump toxic waste into the lake

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:39

You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Solemn Sloth posted:

My old boss was pretty surprised when I informed him that casuals accrue long service leave entitlements and that i had been there long enough that he had to pay them out

"All these overheads causing small businesses to collapse blah blah blah"

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:40

Solemn Sloth: Jul 11, 2015; Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

iajanus posted:

How was the rest of your last shift ever?

They were demolishing the bottle shop to put in more car parks and pokies anyway. It doubt it was worth them finding someone to finish up the remaining time before they closed it down.

In full credit to them they didn�t try to fight it or anything, just got independent advice on it and then paid up what they were required to with no arguments and we are still friendly when we occasionally see each other down the shops

Solemn Sloth fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Apr 23, 2018

# ? Apr 23, 2018 08:41

Metis of the Chat Thread: Aug 1, 2014

quote:

Mr Petroulias told the ABC he did not know he was underpaying his workers.

"I had a look on Google, and it said the average rate was $15 to $17 an hour, or something like that. And I was under the impression that $18 was the minimum rate," he said.

"Now that I've checked it, it's $18.51 or something."

The minimum hourly rate for full-time staff is $18.51, but for casual staff like Ms Langford the rate is $23.51.

Mr Petroulias said that staff were provided with meals and coffee during their shifts, and that they were paid for their break of around 20 minutes on an eight-hour shift.

lol

my absolutely baseless dislike of Barry is now vindicated

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:05

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Lol at all the news articles claiming Turnbull is back and newspoll shows a recovery!

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:12

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

Mr Petroulias told the ABC he did not know he was underpaying his workers.

Funny how know is a synonym for care in this care.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:23

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

Hey I googled "can I gently caress over my staff" and therefore I will do no more research.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:27

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

Anidav posted:

Lol at all the news articles claiming Turnbull is back and newspoll shows a recovery!

Cheerleading over movements within statistical noise.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:29

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

I hope someone managing an aged care facility in the next neglect related controversy says they didn't know they were underfeeding them by serving up a single lettuce leaf with a broad bean on top for every meal of the day.

"I checked Google and it said that was healthy, I don't understand the fuss."

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:30

CrazyTolradi: Oct 2, 2011; It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Sorry, I didn't know forcing wealth re-distribution was illegal.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:34

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Can+I+guillotine+the+rich%3F

I don't see a no.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:37

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

We need Salem Witch Trials, only for bankers.

Same outcome though.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:39

hooman: Oct 11, 2007; This guy seems legit.; Fun Shoe

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+much+do+I+have+to+pay+coffee+shop+workers+Australia

First result is payscale with average being $15.83

Fourth result is fair work ombudsman literally the first non payscale result which has everything he'd need to know about paying his employees, jesus christ he "I'm feeling lucky"'d their goddamn wages.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:43

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Myth: The minimum wage doesn’t apply to people from overseas

Fact: Overseas workers in Australia are entitled to the same minimum pay rates, conditions and workplace rights as Australian workers.

This is a scary myth to require a myth busting box.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:48

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

I think we should chastise these union bullies for their aggressive stance against honest small business owners who simply want to get on with life while stealing wages out of the pockets of their employees.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:50

Zenithe: Feb 25, 2013; _{Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.}

JBP posted:

This is a scary myth to require a myth busting box.

This sounds like a lesson rather than instruction. Like how they ask you if you're a terrorist when you enter countries.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 09:52

bigis: Jun 21, 2006

FYI some industries like construction have portable long service leave. Those pesky unions..!

It�d be good if all industries had a portable LSL scheme.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 10:00

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/investments/the-rich-are-banking-on-living-to-100-20180423-p4zb33.html posted:

The rich are banking on living to 100

Money might not buy love, but it can buy better health. And, to live as long as possible, the world's wealthy are willing to pay up.
Over the past few decades, the average person's lifespan has risen almost everywhere in the world. In China, the US and most of Eastern Europe, the average life expectancy at birth has reached the late 70s, according to the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, or OECD. People in Western Europe and Japan, meanwhile, can expect to live into their early 80s.

Most rich people, however, are counting on living even longer-a lot longer, as in two decades more than average. In a new UBS Financial Services survey, 53 per cent of wealthy investors said they expected to live to 100.
Hitting triple digits won't be easy, but it's not as outlandish as it used to be. The average Japanese woman now has a life expectancy of 87, OECD data show, compared with 81 years for men. And many studies have shown that the wealthy have a built-in longevity advantage.

In the US, for example, the richest 1 per cent of American women by income live more than 10 years longer than the poorest 1 per cent, a 2016 study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found. For men, the gap between the richest and poorest Americans is almost 15 years.

The rich also seem to know that living to 100 is a pricey prospect, one that requires more spending on health care, better food, exercise and other services that can lengthen life. Also, you have to keep paying for everything that comes from hanging around additional decades. In the UBS survey, which focused on people with more than $US1 million ($1.3 million) in investable assets, 91 per cent said they're "making financial changes due to increased life expectancy." Even the wealthy worry about rising health-care costs, the survey suggests.

The rich are more than willing to sacrifice money for extra longevity. Nine of 10 wealthy people agreed that "health is more important than wealth." Asked by UBS how much of their fortune they'd be willing to give up "to guarantee an extra 10 years of healthy life," the average responses varied by wealth level.

nvestors who are barely millionaires, with $US1 million to $US2 million in net worth, were willing to give up a third of their nest egg for an additional decade of life. Investors with more than $US50 million were willing to part with almost half of their fortune.

The world's trend toward longer life has featured an exception in recent years-the US. The life expectancy of Americans has declined for two years in a row, an anomaly that can be blamed in part on the country's opioid abuse crisis. But even before US lifespans started slipping because of drug use, health and longevity statistics significantly lagged those of other wealthy countries in Western Europe and Asia.

Perhaps it's not surprising, then, that rich Americans surveyed by UBS had different attitudes from the wealthy elsewhere in the world-they were more pessimistic about making it to age 100. Just 30 per cent of the American rich expect to hit the century mark. While they were the most worried about rising health-care costs, they were the least likely to be adjusting their finances for the prospect of living longer.

If rich Americans aren't planning for the extra costs of longevity, they could be making a mistake. Studies show that the wealthy in the US are increasingly insulated from the depressing health trends afflicting most Americans. A 2016 study by University of California at Berkeley professors Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman compared the death rates for American men aged 65 to 79 across several decades by wealth. If these men's wealth placed them in the top 1 per cent, their mortality rates in the early 1980s were 12 per cent lower than average. Twenty-five years later, the wealthiest American men's death rates had plunged to 40 per cent below average.

Rising inequality is about more than just a widening gap in wealth and income. The richest Americans are also living much longer, healthier lives than everyone else.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 11:41

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

I'll weep a single tear for all the grey nomads who find themselves broke and still alive for decades after blowing all their savings on repeated trips to Europe or around Australia.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 12:11

Starshark: Dec 22, 2005; Doctor Rope

Off the pigs.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-23/former-asio-specialist-paul-gibbons-sues-police/9686588

quote:

He alleged when a senior constable suggested the group move on to their investigation, a constable said:

"Naaah f**k him, I want to lock the c**t up. He made us wait."

Mr Gibbons alleged when he asked what authority they had to require entry, that officer pointed to his gun and said: "See this, this is my authority to enter."

"When we tell you to do something, you don't ask questions. You f**king do it!

"Hell, we can put a bullet in your f***in' head and get a medal," the officer allegedly said to Mr Gibbons.

Mr Gibbons claims another officer said his mobile recording was "easily remedied", adding, "sounds like he needs to learn some respect", before shining his flashlight into the phone camera.

An officer demanded the phone and grabbed it before Mr Gibbons was wrestled to the ground and handcuffed.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 12:12

Ghost Leviathan: Mar 2, 2017; Exploration is ill-advised.

Everyone needs an app to instantly stream and back up mobile phone footage to an offsite source.

# ? Apr 23, 2018 13:17

G-Spot Run: Jun 28, 2005

Gonna be a lot of dicks on that cloud

# ? Apr 23, 2018 13:26

froglet: Nov 12, 2009; You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

DancingShade posted:

I'll weep a single tear for all the grey nomads who find themselves broke and still alive for decades after blowing all their savings on repeated trips to Europe or around Australia.

The thing that shits me is people keep making claims like they've "worked hard" and they've "earned" it, when really... They haven't. They just happened to grow up into a time of untold wealth and prosperity. Someone as smart and as hard working from a similar background as them today wouldn't be half as well off in retirement as they are.

But of course I'm the monster for pointing this out.

And in today's NEG news: Obviously the renewable energy industry is not very happy about the NEG and are trying to raise $500,000 to lobby for the NEG to be scrapped or to have more renewables. Ah, capitalism.

https://reneweconomy.com.au/smart-energy-council-wages-war-against-anti-renewables-neg-56510/

# ? Apr 23, 2018 13:35

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thatbastardken: Apr 23, 2010; A contract signed by a minor is not binding!

jezza stealing policy from the qld greens now, the absolute lad

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...time=1524445905

# ? Apr 23, 2018 13:43

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