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Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

funkybottoms posted:

The Kiefsatz Hasherach now takes the Bong Jabbar
Rifftual commences 'round the tree stump altar
Bong Water of Life anoints the Muad' Doob messiah

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Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer
Sleep are pretty much stoner Manowar, and I say that with love.

Eat The Rich
Feb 10, 2018



Just spotted a Nacho)))) which I thought was just a fun pun.

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006

A friend and I did a mockup of a BUNN O))) shirt with a wall of coffeemakers like a year ago and I still kinda wish it were real & on a shirt

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Big dumb fun riffs for days

https://swampritual.bandcamp.com/

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



New Primitive Man track with an LP announcement: https://www.cvltnation.com/bringing-noise-premiering-primitive-man-steel-casket-lp/

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
disclaimer: who cares about pitchfork

pitchfork gave the Sleep album an 8.4 and Best New Music. i forget if it was this thread, but people have complained about how they're never allowed to give metal the BNM designation. It's pretty funny that they finally did it for an out and out stoner album

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

emdash posted:

disclaimer: who cares about pitchfork

pitchfork gave the Sleep album an 8.4 and Best New Music. i forget if it was this thread, but people have complained about how they're never allowed to give metal the BNM designation. It's pretty funny that they finally did it for an out and out stoner album

They did it for Power Trip last year.

Also there's a really good piece about Grief/listening to sludge in The Pitch section:
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/schnips-picks-listening-to-griefs-miserably-ever-after-years-after-i-stopped-feeling-miserable/

Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Apr 26, 2018

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

quote:

I was waiting for the subway recently, and when it arrived I wasn’t sure if it was the local or the express. As I craned to read the sign on the side of the train car, I felt a two-handed push. I turned and half expected to see someone I know, playfully greeting me with a shove. But it was a stranger wearing big sunglasses. She looked at me with disgust—I guess I was in her way—but not as much disgust as the man with her, who gave me a death stare as he passed. The train was local; I got on a different car.

Right then, I thought of the Boston band Grief, and their 1996 album Miserably Ever After, and my favorite song from it, “I Hate the Human Race.” This, I thought, is why people hate the human race.

lol, loving pitchfork

here's jeff haywards great crust band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOI4_Vxh5fI

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master



This is great where can I get mroe like this

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
I can write an introduction to d-beat / crust post if you want

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Dyna Soar posted:

I can write an introduction to d-beat / crust post if you want

:justpost:

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
ok, here goes. i'll try to keep this short

first of all these are just my opinions and some ppl will probably disagree with me, but then again punk is a clusterfuck of microgenres and scenes (can anyone honestly explain the differences between grindcore, thrashcore, noisecore and power violence so that someone who's never heard any of them would understand?) and there's no central authority to any of this stuff.

let's start with the terms: 82 hardcore, d-beat, raw punk and crust. 82 hardcore is used only with bands that were active in '82 or around it and thus created the style. d-beat or discharge beat is the name of a drumbeat originally used by discharge in a punk context: it had been used before but discharge was the first to use it the way they did. it can also mean a style of hardcore where the drums play nothing but the d-beat. raw punk is another term for the '82 bands, but also for modern bands who try to replicate the sound of those lovely, early demos. it generally uses nothing but the d-beat and is like the raw black metal of punk: super lofi sound, simple riffs and sloppy playing. so raw punk is d-beat but not all d-beat is raw punk, hah. crust or crustcore is a more of an umbrella term for dark, political style of hardcore and also a both a style of clothing and life in general. these terms are pretty much thrown around and usually just mean the same thing: fast and political metallic hardcore with its roots in discharge.

first off was the '82 bands, led by discharge. back then the style hasn't found it's form yet, so bands varied from the metallic, pounding monotone of discharge to the gloomy dirge of amebix. england was the birthplace, but bored teenagers started forming bands in scandinavia and japan soon followed thanks to tape trading. curiously the us only started producing this stuff in the late 80s or early 90s. i guess it's because you guys had such a strong hardcore scene and it was pretty unpolitical, concentrating more on drinking beer, having fun and fighting, where as european bands were a lot more political from the start.

english '82 bands:
discharge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pfiLjL6-HI
amebix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvZHZlg6Q0M

scandinavian (swedish & finnish) bands:
terveet kädet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLycmd0B_80
anti cimex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG8R9e8KOs4
shitlickers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4XxscpCp7A

japan:
GISM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHQkO4S_XU

later d-beat / crust (this is more like consume):
bastard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlY7pNCJSBY
anti cimex (from their comeback in the 90s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pls2KVJ7-0E
sacrilege: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDFXDu9Mlo
disrupt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7R66xKtLCg
tragedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfsWgwKCjnk
wolfpack / wolfbrigade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63WaZYjaGEA

some raw punk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrQrdIEQfwQ

Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Apr 26, 2018

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

emdash posted:

disclaimer: who cares about pitchfork

pitchfork gave the Sleep album an 8.4 and Best New Music. i forget if it was this thread, but people have complained about how they're never allowed to give metal the BNM designation. It's pretty funny that they finally did it for an out and out stoner album

does that mean they've stopped being apologists for lovely rap and "IDM"?

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

funkybottoms posted:

does that mean they've stopped being apologists for lovely rap and "IDM"?

lol

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Metal heads who demean other genres are the dumbest nerds ever

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
I want a metal version of Goop on Ya Grinch

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009
I enjoy a wide variety of music, from stoner rock and doom to big-band swing, from fast grindy punk to surf guitar, from rockabilly to industrial metal to about eight different subgenres of the blues.

So, being an "x" fan isn't the issue, it's just the fact that rap and country suck.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Zamboni Apocalypse posted:

I enjoy a wide variety of music, from stoner rock and doom to big-band swing, from fast grindy punk to surf guitar, from rockabilly to industrial metal to about eight different subgenres of the blues.

So, being an "x" fan isn't the issue, it's just the fact that rap and country suck.

Ah, the classic "I like everything but rap and country" guy, complete with "I like everything from heavy guitars to light guitars, to fast and slow guitars"

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Zamboni Apocalypse posted:

I enjoy a wide variety of music, from stoner rock and doom to big-band swing, from fast grindy punk to surf guitar, from rockabilly to industrial metal to about eight different subgenres of the blues.

So, being an "x" fan isn't the issue, it's just the fact that rap and country suck.

Holy moly

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
What about hick hop

https://youtu.be/QD9G9tG7WXQ

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

I once got told by a bunch of scruffy metal dudes that I wouldn’t like WITTR because I wasn’t dressed like them. Classist scum!

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Henchman of Santa posted:

Ah, the classic "I like everything but rap and country" guy, complete with "I like everything from heavy guitars to light guitars, to fast and slow guitars"

:thejoke: I hope

butros
Aug 2, 2007

I believe the signs of the reptile master


Dyna Soar posted:

a clusterfuck of microgenres and scenes

Thanks for the effort post. I am really looking forward to working my way through all this.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

emdash posted:

disclaimer: who cares about pitchfork

pitchfork gave the Sleep album an 8.4 and Best New Music. i forget if it was this thread, but people have complained about how they're never allowed to give metal the BNM designation. It's pretty funny that they finally did it for an out and out stoner album

It makes perfect sense that they like stoner metal because pitchfork are false as hell

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
I like both kinds of music, Country and Western!

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

butros posted:

Thanks for the effort post. I am really looking forward to working my way through all this.

yeah np. also whats notable about discharge is that they were the main influence on early death metal, grindcore and even sludge. swedish death metal was mostly old punks who wanted to play faster and faster. for example tompa from at the gates was in a punk band before his metal career and joined disfear after at the gates went on hiatus. bathory's first album is straight up discharge worship. sepultura wore rattus & kaaos shirts on their early videos. some members of grief were in disrupt, then formed grief and after grief went back to d-beat with consume and morne. eyehategod has acknowledged the influence on multiple interviews etc. even metallica covered them on garage inc. so hugely influential band.

i was gonna write more about what happened after the 80s, but maybe just a list of influential or good albums will do.

btw here's some more finnish bands, i love living in a country with a vibrant punk scene going back 40 years now.

kohti tuhoa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIv_cjFZOMg
uutuus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYmOIFC_7E
mellakka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKZMp7n_soQ
kaaos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjHFg3agqYI
rattus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzWOY-Jvi7o
pohjasakka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkBTYsL0kuI

Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Apr 27, 2018

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



Thanks for the links! I’ve liked Rattus for a long time but there’s a lot of Finnish punk I’ve missed.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Dylan Carlson's Solo album just came out!

Parachute
May 18, 2003
this is a masterpiece

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdGE8fFtmwc

Parachute
May 18, 2003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ZU7ze1Udo

dystopia definitely had the crusty sludge thing going on, and im sure most of yall have heard them before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHliNy0ve9c

my name is satan were an irish hardcore band but definitely had a crusty/neurosis sound mixed in as well. this is the intro track which is just a sample that is awesome and the first real song on their (only?) album

nerve
Jan 2, 2011

SKA SUCKS
if you're are af alse donut entrey!!

Sludge Tank
Jul 31, 2007

by Azathoth

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.

Oh hey, as a coincidence these guys are opening for Sleep in Stockholm in a couple of weeks. Going to be a fun night.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
There's a new Thou album out btw

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Hot Diggity! posted:

There's a new Thou album out btw

Yes... YES

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

Hot Diggity! posted:

There's a new Thou album out btw

What where

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
My friends please enjoy

https://roboticempire.bandcamp.com/album/thou-the-house-primordial

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. is also in repose.
One of the tags is ' wizards tripping balls slap bass'. I am excited.

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Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Oh wow, been waiting for this since they played mostly new material last fall. They also put out a split recently that nobody has talked about.

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