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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:It was entirely about you. I came here to complain that you weren't taking the advise that would most likely get a favorable result. As we said in that thread, negotiations are better than court. They are asking you for supporting documents, to which you seemed to day, no, see you in court. What should she have given them? No one in that thread advised me to negotiate, which is why I was confused in this thread when it came up. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Here's your advice: hire a lawyer. The stakes are too high, and your situation is too complicated for me to wager that you would be successful pro se.
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Apr 24, 2018 18:19
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blarzgh posted:Here's your advice: hire a lawyer. The stakes are too high, and your situation is too complicated for me to wager that you would be successful pro se. Or, hear me out here, go to law school and become a lawyer You have the arguing chops for it
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Apr 24, 2018 18:22
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Nevvy Z posted:What should she have given them? No one in that thread advised me to negotiate, which is why I was confused in this thread when it came up. Now that is getting too close to specific legal advice for me. Lawyers usually negotiate first. Much cheaper than court.
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Apr 24, 2018 18:27
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it's completely unreasonable for someone to think that they should talk to the other parties without receiving specific advice to talk to them
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Apr 24, 2018 18:32
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mastershakeman posted:it's completely unreasonable for someone to think that they should talk to the other parties without receiving specific advice to talk to them excuse me, I think you'll find it's ALREADY too late to do something as pedestrian as communicating
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Apr 24, 2018 18:40
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gently caress them. They send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue. Scorched earth. There is no mercy in this dojo.
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Apr 24, 2018 18:55
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SlyFrog posted:gently caress them. They send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue. Scorched earth. There is no mercy in this dojo. There is no virtue to a proportional response *nods sagely*
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Apr 24, 2018 19:04
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mastershakeman posted:it's completely unreasonable for someone to think that they should talk to the other parties without receiving specific advice to talk to them I though "what you say to the other party" is actually a thing that people are supposed to be careful about? Is it not? I dunno, IANAL. Those stupid not-lawyers failing to follow advice no one gave! SlyFrog posted:gently caress them. They send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue. Scorched earth. There is no mercy in this dojo. This guy gets it. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Apr 24, 2018 19:06
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Nevvy Z posted:I though "what you say to the other party" is actually a thing that people are supposed to be careful about? Is it not? I dunno, IANAL. Those stupid not-lawyers failing to follow advice no one gave! it is very important to never tell the truth to your enemies
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Apr 24, 2018 19:13
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mastershakeman posted:it is very important to never tell the truth to your enemies Cloak and dagger pre-suit negotiations when you aren't at risk of being sued yourself drive me crazy. You think that poo poo isn't coming out at trial if you want to make your full argument? If facts are truly on your side, don't hide them. And if something really might be better left undisclosed, that's a call for a lawyer to make, at which point the answer returns to "Hire a lawyer."
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Apr 24, 2018 19:28
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Nevvy Z posted:I though "what you say to the other party" is actually a thing that people are supposed to be careful about? Is it not? I dunno, IANAL. Those stupid not-lawyers failing to follow advice no one gave! Wait, aren’t you an ALJ? 
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Apr 24, 2018 19:29
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Toona the Cat posted:Wait, aren’t you an ALJ? Not the same title, but basically.
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Apr 24, 2018 19:40
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oh my goodness
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Apr 24, 2018 19:42
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This just got good.
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Apr 24, 2018 19:52
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Holy poo poo Uh this guy also says he went to law school. Were you just trolling us in legal advice? Hot Dog Day #91 fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Apr 24, 2018 21:06
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An administrative law judge? Why don't you administer some justice on their asses?
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Apr 24, 2018 21:27
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Holy poo poo gently caress, bamboozled again
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Apr 24, 2018 21:34
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Holy poo poo No, I don't pretend to be a lawyer. Kawasaki Nun posted:An administrative law judge? Why don't you administer some justice on their asses? Jurisdiction is super limited or I would.
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Apr 24, 2018 21:42
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Nevvy Z posted:I'm not fit to sit for the bar but the State still lets me rule over procedural law hearings. tell us more about your character and fitness
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Apr 24, 2018 21:47
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mastershakeman posted:tell us more about your character and fitness I missed the C&F meeting, missed renewing my registration (my first car) the summer prior, and failed to report the resulting ticket to C&F. Also the job I had been working until school started had said I was fired when I quit. C&F didn't want me missing any deadlines for clients, near as I can tell. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 24, 2018 |
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Apr 24, 2018 21:53
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You should be able to determine this poo poo yourself. Why are you asking questions in legal advice?
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Apr 24, 2018 22:25
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Nevvy Z posted:I missed the C&F meeting, missed renewing my registration (my first car) the summer prior, and failed to report the resulting ticket to C&F. Also the job I had been working until school started had said I was fired when I quit. C&F didn't want me missing any deadlines for clients, near as I can tell. you're gonna get dismissed for want of prosecution and show up 4 hours later really angry arent you
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Apr 24, 2018 22:39
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Holy poo poo
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Apr 24, 2018 23:33
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Don't you have some friends you could entice with favorable judgements for free legal advice?
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Apr 24, 2018 23:39
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mastershakeman posted:you're gonna get dismissed for want of prosecution and show up 4 hours later really angry arent you Better yet he is just gonna miss the statute of limitations entirely and then show up angry. Just sit in the school registrar's office man, goddamn.
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Apr 24, 2018 23:44
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Apr 24, 2018 23:52
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It's ya boy, Nevvy Z, aka the sovereign citizen, aka character and finesse, aka the hearing officer who will get you off, aka P Barnes, aka the DEADLINE, aka DON'T TALK TO OPPOSING PARTIES (I don't know you Im just sitting here filing out my case info sheet with a crayon), and if you see me in Kroger, opening all the Oreo boxes looking for 5 college credits, respect my agency and approach me like an ursine mammal, aka Nevvy gonna pass the bar.
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Apr 25, 2018 01:49
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Nevvy Z posted:I missed the C&F meeting, missed renewing my registration (my first car) the summer prior, and failed to report the resulting ticket to C&F. Also the job I had been working until school started had said I was fired when I quit. C&F didn't want me missing any deadlines for clients, near as I can tell. Holy poo poo this was enough to get denied on character and fitness? Edit: nm lol I misread the part where he missed the meeting
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EwokEntourage posted:Holy poo poo this was enough to get denied on character and fitness? You would be amazed what C&F will use as ammo. There was an infamous case of a girl who got an underaged drinking ticket, who happened to be working at a bar when she applied. She was denied on the basis that she was a presumed alcoholic. My wife's application was delayed 6 months because she had been terminated from McDonald's when she was 14, and failed to mark on the application that she had been dismissed from any professional jobs. She had disclosed the firing under a different section, and figured McDonald's Cashier wasn't a suit and tie profession. It was grimace inducing. Tragicomically, she'd been fired for following actual McDonald's procedure and pissing off the manager. It's ok, only costs us a couple thousand in lost wages now, no big deal. You can be the world's worst human once you're in the bar, but woe betide you if you don't declare every tiny thing you've done since you were born.
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Fortunately my minor-in-possession was no big deal to C&F.
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Apr 25, 2018 04:19
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Ironically, I'm now in the position where I'm being encouraged to make something up, because I've got nothing to declare - no parking tickets, speeding fines, arrests, disciplinary matters from uni, nothing. Apparently it looks really suspicious if you declare absolutely nothing, so a few people are advising that I make up something minor that couldn't be checked up (e.g. dismissed ticket for travelling without a concession card).
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Apr 25, 2018 05:23
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I disclosed the time I got arrested in my underwear even though there was no record of it and no charges were ever filed and they let me in. God Bless Texas.
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Apr 25, 2018 05:56
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I disclosed a dismissed running a stop sign charge AND had to get all the court paperwork for it. I think it was because it was called a "petty misdemeanor," and California didn't understand that was an infraction or something. Or maybe I decided to over disclose. I'm also insanely lucky that a dismissed stop sign ticket was the only thing I was caught for before the bar. Plus it got dumped because while judges hate lawyers, they love the gently caress out of law students.
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Apr 25, 2018 06:07
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That sounds like some crazy poo poo. I don’t know anyone that had any c&f issues, and I definitely did not disclose any traffic tickets I ever got
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Apr 25, 2018 06:12
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:It's ya boy, Nevvy Z, aka the sovereign citizen, aka character and finesse, aka the hearing officer who will get you off, aka P Barnes, aka the DEADLINE, aka DON'T TALK TO OPPOSING PARTIES (I don't know you Im just sitting here filing out my case info sheet with a crayon), and if you see me in Kroger, opening all the Oreo boxes looking for 5 college credits, respect my agency and approach me like an ursine mammal, aka Nevvy gonna pass the bar. Haduken
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Whitlam posted:Ironically, I'm now in the position where I'm being encouraged to make something up, because I've got nothing to declare - no parking tickets, speeding fines, arrests, disciplinary matters from uni, nothing. Apparently it looks really suspicious if you declare absolutely nothing, so a few people are advising that I make up something minor that couldn't be checked up (e.g. dismissed ticket for travelling without a concession card). I'm so whitebread that I've never even been banned in 17 years on these dead gay forums. This was not a problem on my bar admissions, but probably only because I didn't declare my forum account.
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Apr 25, 2018 09:32
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I literally had a dream last night that I was banned for trolling the doctors thread. But I was happy because I got to give lowtax money.
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Apr 25, 2018 11:50
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My buddy and I filled out our Texas c&f applications together, both agreeing and understanding it was better to over disclose than omit something. He decides he didn’t need to disclose a minor in possession (or its equivalent) because it was in a national park and he thought there was no way the Texas bar could check it. ... Glad he eventually got vetted... what a bonehead move to leave that off
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