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PittTheElder posted:Dude makes like $40,000/month on Patreon for being a stern father figure for the alt-right. He literally does not care about truth. MOTHER FUCKER I have so many questions. How are there so many people willing to give this man money, why is this a thing and how much of my own soul am I gonna have to destroy to get in on this gravy train? gently caress, now I'm actually mad at him for making so much money telling the alt right what they want to hear.
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Don Gato posted:MOTHER Because he says feminism is fake news and that males are biologically superior to them in every way
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SimonCat posted:Anyone know if these were ever made available in the US? They occationally end up on eBay from US sellers, but shipping them from Sweden isn't the most absurd proposition. Do you want one?
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bewbies posted:I know nothing about psychoanalysis and I am not much of an expert on Hitler, so it could be totally off on Mars, but as a well-read layperson the idea that Hitler was just a kind of deranged anarchist who found a particularly good conduit to destroy society seems at least superficially plausible. Saul Friedländer (a Holocaust survivor himself) characterizes the Nazis as a "death cult," a conscious nihilistic negation of all that is positive or life-affirming. I agree with this observation myself.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:How about Leningrad or Stalingrad? Leningrad and Stalingrad were large enough cities to warrant being cleared, and honestly the intensity of artillery bombardment was less at its peak and shorter in duration in both places. For instance, Arras and Lens are on the Zone Rouge borders but aren't restricted because it was worth clearing and sweeping. The technology behind artillery did not change in terms of ability to deliver a volume of shells on a given piece of dirt between the wars. Another factor that contributes to the persistence of Zone Rouge is that dud rates were very high in WWI in part due to terrain and in part due to fuse technology.
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Don Gato posted:MOTHER We live in a sadly very callus world. It makes me sad too  .
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PittTheElder posted:I think you'd have a hard time finding an English speaker wouldn't at least understand the gist of that sign.
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Apr 25, 2018 21:30
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darthbob88 posted:AFAIK that's wrong. He's actually making $60K per month off 9400 patrons. Wow, screw morals or ethics or having a soul or honesty or integrity or a sense of shame or any of that crap!
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Apr 25, 2018 21:35
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Ah yes, the Armenian Genocide. A cool thing?
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Don Gato posted:MOTHER Not to derail the this into politics, but in the canpol thread there are a couple of well written pieces that tear down some of the more problematic aspects of his arguments. Vyelkin's post My guess why he is so popular is because there is just some basic general dissatisfaction towards feminists, liberalism, left politics etc. Where Peterson represents someone that seems to be striking back at this "suppression" of right wing thoughts. Especially since he was so infamously "silenced" with a white noise machine. It plays into rightist perceptions that the leftists are silencing you but if you support JBP with a monthly donation of $10.99 by giving him money through Pateron he will strike back against your oppressors! Basically he picks up people who feel marginalized from the left, which is surprise! a lot of people.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Ah yes, the Armenian Genocide. A cool thing? Dunno, how much do you think Serdar Argic would make if he had a Patreon set up?
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darthbob88 posted:AFAIK that's wrong. He's actually making $60K per month off 9400 patrons. I honestly wonder what fragment of that total is him donating to himself through straw accounts. Probably not much, sadly.
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Siivola posted:It's not unexploded ordnance, but didn't people make canoes out of discarded drop tanks in Vietnam? Jamaican steel drumming originated from the US Navy's immense number of castoffs. Also the Zone Rouge (and similar ordinance-disaster zones around the world) are are interesting and terrifying. Meanwhile, Hiroshima and Nagasaki had plants growing again within months of the nuclear explosions, against great fears they would poison the soil for a century or more. They certainly did lasting damage, but arguably Fukushima has done more since it's still loving leaking. I did a cursory search and couldn't find any quick results on how much radiation lingers in underground testing sites and for how long--I guess it depends somewhat on the isotope (Americium has a half-life of 432 years? fsck) but to some degree fears of a blasted nuclear wasteland incapable of supporting life and/or cloaked in perpetual winter seem overblown. Unless of course you also shelled the area extensively, covered it in land mines, and blanketed it with chemical weapons.
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darthbob88 posted:AFAIK that's wrong. He's actually making $60K per month off 9400 patrons. Sadly it turns out that if you can reach a large, otherwise untapped market, (untapped because they want to hear people tell them things that objectively aren't true) there's a lot of money to be made. Of course, what he really makes money off of is the fact that he manages to say all these untrue things, but still maintain the appearance of a being credible academic and not some nut. Everything he says is nested in a complex web of stupid so he can come off as just stupid and he can dismiss his detractors as having misunderstood him instead of engaging with them, whereas anyone who agrees with his bottom line can cut straight through all the bullshit. Here's an article all about it. He must put a lot of effort into the whole thing, while actual academics have to waste their time with facts and clarity.
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occamsnailfile posted:Jamaican steel drumming originated from the US Navy's immense number of castoffs. Well yeah, fallout just isn't going to have the staying power that tens of tons of ejected sulfur dioxide from a massive volcanic eruption does. I'd assume the bigger problem is going to be several years where fallout combined with bioaccumulation makes clean food extremely scarce.
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occamsnailfile posted:Jamaican steel drumming originated from the US Navy's immense number of castoffs. Not quite. It's fairer to say that the Caribbean steelpan musical scene owes its existence to the sudden appearance of enormous quantities of 55 gallon drums during the 1940s. Drumming was already a tradition among island musicians and they took to the sudden influx of material for percussion instruments with the sort of elan a French marshal in 1914 would have envied.
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SlothfulCobra posted:He must put a lot of effort into the whole thing, while actual academics have to waste their time with facts and clarity. This is sort of the core problem with "nazis are free speech" argument--one side is screaming "Jew will not replace us!" and the other has to respond with actual logic and facts while being physically and emotionally abused or else they're "just as bad." It doesn't help that the nazi side is not arguing from a place of logic to begin with; none of that empirical stuff even matters. Sartre laid it out clearly, though it's not limited to anti-Semites obviously. They're arguing solely from a place of passion, and that passion gives them the security of being impenetrable; the logical person is capable of doubt and question, and even if their reason as well is far from absolute as they may imagine, it is still allowed a governing voice. quote:Not quite. It's fairer to say that the Caribbean steelpan musical scene owes its existence to the sudden appearance of enormous quantities of 55 gallon drums during the 1940s. Drumming was already a tradition among island musicians and they took to the sudden influx of material for percussion instruments with the sort of elan a French marshal in 1914 would have envied. I concede the accuracy of this--I meant the steel drum itself, only. Caribbean percussion traditions are definitely older than that. occamsnailfile fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Apr 25, 2018 |
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The biggest problem, as I see it, is that it's not actually legal to shoot Nazis or hit them with blunt instruments during peacetime. This is a weakness of civil society that fascists cravenly exploit.
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ChubbyChecker posted:It was in 1940, and I don't think it "way over wanked" when they defeated France and BEF in 6 weeks. I mean not long after that whole thing we did turf Rommel out of BFE 
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occamsnailfile posted:Jamaican steel drumming originated from the US Navy's immense number of castoffs. The nice thing about radioactive elements with crazy half lives though is that they tend not to be all that dangerous, relatively speaking. Long decay rate means low emission rate.
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ChubbyChecker posted:It was in 1940, and I don't think it "way over wanked" when they defeated France and BEF in 6 weeks. One of the reasons France fell so quickly is because Belgium fell extremely quickly. The primary reason Belgium fell so quickly is because Germany sent a large amount of parachutists and flimsy troop-filled gliders to attack the Belgian fortifications from behind. A sudden bit of bad weather, or any real fighter presence (even a flight of Sopwith Camels from the previous war would probably do the trick) would have resulted in this being one of the biggest military disasters in history. Any plan that can be described as "it only worked because everyone assumed nobody was dumb enough to try it" does not deserve to be lionized the way the Fall of France has been.
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Extra Credits put out a video praising the new Wolfenstein game and a loooooooooot of comments come out of the woodwork strenuously arguing that not all Nazi's are bad people.  a moron posted:Lol I disagree Wolfenstein isn't the game that gets people talking about these topics at least not an honest one. I'm in no way justifying what they did. It is important to remember that all the people who were nazis were people. That when placed in a certain environment that any of us can become one due to our psychological weaknesses. The conversation then should become on how to avoid that situation and environment from brewing. By making all nazis appear as evil racist wife beaters we miss the nuances of what actually created this horrid regime. The people in germany during that time weren't more evil compared to society today or in the past. Emphasis mine. Gnoman posted:One of the reasons France fell so quickly is because Belgium fell extremely quickly. The primary reason Belgium fell so quickly is because Germany sent a large amount of parachutists and flimsy troop-filled gliders to attack the Belgian fortifications from behind. A sudden bit of bad weather, or any real fighter presence (even a flight of Sopwith Camels from the previous war would probably do the trick) would have resulted in this being one of the biggest military disasters in history. I mean to be fair taking advantage of a complacent opponent with a hair-brained scheme is something that repeats itself throughout history; at least there's the audacity to try something.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The biggest problem, as I see it, is that it's not actually legal to shoot Nazis or hit them with blunt instruments during peacetime. This is a weakness of civil society that fascists cravenly exploit. Devils advocate: Those laws are also what keep people from dumping socialists in unmarked graves.
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As an actual contribution(questionably) to the thread: Why did the Royal navy decide armoring their aircraft carriers was more important than having large air complements?
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Stairmaster posted:As an actual contribution(questionably) to the thread: Why did the Royal navy decide armoring their aircraft carriers was more important than having large air complements? I believe it's because they expected to constantly operate in an environment where land-based aircraft would be a threat, so they reasoned being able to withstand damage was more important.
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Gnoman posted:One of the reasons France fell so quickly is because Belgium fell extremely quickly. The primary reason Belgium fell so quickly is because Germany sent a large amount of parachutists and flimsy troop-filled gliders to attack the Belgian fortifications from behind. A sudden bit of bad weather, or any real fighter presence (even a flight of Sopwith Camels from the previous war would probably do the trick) would have resulted in this being one of the biggest military disasters in history. bewbies posted:The German Nazis were so bad at everything the real reason France lost was they were too busy laughing at their Bad Tanks and Bad Industrial Practices to properly resist, they were like lol nice tank LOSER how many man hours did that take to build?
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Stairmaster posted:Devils advocate: Those laws are also what keep people from dumping socialists in unmarked graves. Yeah, and many other groups too. Speaking of nazis and free speech, fortunately at least this forum takes a hard stance against them, and making a holocaust denialism thread gets you a massive 3 days probation.
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13th KRRC War Diary, 25th Apr 1918 posted:Stand to as usual by the Coys. at 5 a.m. The Adjt. and Lewis Gun Officer went out into the trench occupied by H.Q. details and selected Lewis Gun positions for the reserve guns. All the details stood to and were given battle positions which in the event of an attack they would occupy. Trench fire-steps etc. are being made and during the day as many details as possible were turned out and worked on the trench. Mud was cleared away and the trench widened and deepened. On the whole the day passed quietly.
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ChubbyChecker posted:Yeah, and many other groups too. lol who did that i originally posted that jpb video in cspam because i saw it after i had literally just put down the section in wages of destruction on the hunger plan and forced labor of slavic prisoners
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StashAugustine posted:lol who did that https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3855015 so edgy i cut myself
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Cythereal posted:Stalingrad more likely, or perhaps Odessa or Sevastopol. Leningrad would be Detroit or Minneapolis. Oh yeah, the modern deep south would immediately collapse into Balkanization and genocide. It would probably be worse than Syria.
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PittTheElder posted:The nice thing about radioactive elements with crazy half lives though is that they tend not to be all that dangerous, relatively speaking. Long decay rate means low emission rate. Yeah, if it takes more than a year to decay, you'll get cancer from smoking/smog before it kills you. Stairmaster posted:As an actual contribution(questionably) to the thread: Why did the Royal navy decide armoring their aircraft carriers was more important than having large air complements? Ghetto Prince posted:Oh yeah, the modern deep south would immediately collapse into Balkanization and genocide. It would probably be worse than Syria. If Texas were to secede from the Union (again), as various nutjobs are calling for, the war would be extremely short, and the US would win -- ALL THE TANKS are right in the middle of Texas, but we don't have much of an air force to defend them, if they decide to go Texian (more likely they stay US, and put down the rebellion even faster.) Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:Extra Credits put out a video praising the new Wolfenstein game and a loooooooooot of comments come out of the woodwork strenuously arguing that not all Nazi's are bad people. I don't know. That commentator sort of has a point, in a sense. What I mean by that is that, too often, when we talk about World War II, and specifically Nazi Germany, we use apocalyptic terms; as a simple question of good vs evil. Nazi has become shorthand for modern evil, and calling somebody a "Nazi" is almost never intended as a neutral descriptor. It's almost entirely used a slur; as shorthand. We see it, for instance, in "Godwin's Law"...the observation that, if an internet argument goes on long enough, one side will inevitably compare the other to Hitler. Now, of course, there are good reasons we do this, because Nazi Germany, and Nazi ideology committed atrocities and genocides that are without parallel in history. i certainly don't have to go into detail in this thread about how terrible the Nazis were or how morally bankrupt and destructive their ideology was. The problem with doing that, though; with just using Nazi as a shortcut for evil, is that we strip it of context, and it cuts off analysis. When we say "so and so was a Nazi" and then just end there, we've passed moral judgement, but haven't explained anything. It doesn't say how or why that person became a Nazi or the tools that the Nazi state used to transmit their ideology and perpetuate it. Christopher Browning's "Ordinary Men", which is a look at the Reserve Police Battalion 101, which participated in Operation Reinhardt and Aktion Erntefest, the mass murder of Jews in occupied Poland, and killed about 83,000 in the course of the operation., looks at that question. The members of Battalion 101, mostly made up of police officers from Hamburg, weren't, for the most part, particularly remarkable people. There was no evidence in most of their histories that they were psychologically disturbed or particularly cruel or violent, or that they were particularly anti-Semitic. The book looks at the way these supposedly ordinary people were shaped by Nazi Germany to carry out mass murder. So, i think i agree with the statement "The people in germany during that time weren't more evil compared to society today or in the past. " The crimes of Nazi Germany didn't happen because Germans in the 1930s or 1940s were somehow inherently wicked. They happened because the German government actively normalized the commission of those crimes, and through a mixture of coercion, rewards, and psychological conditioning, got people to accept and carry them out.
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Raenir Salazar posted:that not all Nazi's are bad people. Edit: apparently he was buried in Jerusalem, so maybe he would be a saint if the Jews were into that sort of thing. Goddamn. You hear a lot of Nazi apologists saying [person] were only in the party because it was required, but Schindler was actually that rare case where it's true. Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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ChubbyChecker posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3855015 HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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