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mdxi posted:Goddammit Crobear makes everything hilarious. Crobear's joke, like a child with cancer, never gets old.
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mdxi posted:Goddammit Crobear makes everything hilarious. 2 fat 2 furriest tokyo yifft SoftNum fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Apr 25, 2018 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKcyu36Oo1g&t=161s That's a lot of IF statements...  
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Beet Wagon posted:Actually they already did that. QED, ETC. QED, no RE the reddit version of MLG discussioning E: I can unironically say that it was a comedic and fun experience to go to citizen con last year as an undercover goon and I would totally do it again... Especially since I wasn't the only one there and we had a weird "you?!" experience. In retrospective it would have made things easier if I knew about the "are there stairs in your house" one Also because someone wrote Derek Smart into the guestbook at citizen con... Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Apr 25, 2018 |
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Apr 25, 2018 22:32
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his nibs posted:Is anime still illegal? https://zippy.gfycat.com/ForsakenValidCrab.webm (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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SoftNum posted:2 fat 2 furriest 
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How many hours do I need to take to get a picture from the new God of War in my rapsheet?
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Apologies to the poster I probated and didn't use [img] tags.
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Don’t think y’all aren’t getting probated for that anime gun car meme. I’m just feeling lazy right now.
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it shoots commas me 2 me 2 tax for Zzr (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Virtual Captain posted:This sounded to me like the opposite approach to what CIG has been doing for their ships and environments:
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The reckoning has come little moderators. You reap what you sow
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Also my computer is doing stupid poo poo, just imagine I posted some anime here
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SoftNum posted:2 fat 2 furriest Stop stealing Trivial Fursuit team names.
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Quavers posted:That's a lot of IF statements... ung If if if if if if if. No no no no no. This is probably what most of their bug fixes look like.
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Virtual Captain posted:This sounded to me like the opposite approach to what CIG has been doing for their ships and environments:  Bethesda are such game development failures  Refactor! Redesign! Fidelity is most important!
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XK posted:ung As someone who hasn't touched a piece of code since Turbo Pascal back in the 90's, I'm assuming this is the programming equivalent of using lots of (((((Nested(loving)(parentheses)))))) while writing prose? That is, difficult as poo poo to keep straight.
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I'm watching it at home without distractions and the number of things CIG has probably done completely backwards is humiliating. Frank_Leroux posted:As someone who hasn't touched a piece of code since Turbo Pascal back in the 90's, I'm assuming this is the programming equivalent of using lots of (((((Nested(loving)(parentheses)))))) while writing prose? Yes. Also Virtual Captain fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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Virtual Captain posted:Yes. Also Yeah, I can't think of the correct word, but it's highly connected code. Where if one thing changes somewhere else, somebody has to know to come back here and change some branches. That's just super bad, for so many reasons.
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Look, in the real world, every now and then ships will have critical manufacturing defects and just Blow the gently caress Up. That's just fidelity.
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Martman posted:Look, in the real world, every now and then ships will have critical manufacturing defects and just Blow the gently caress Up. That's just fidelity. Look, I'm not saying this particular ship doesn't have perfect Fidelity, it just might not have had quite as much Fidelity as the other ones.
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The Titanic posted:The perceived vs actual state is the part to be upset over if anything. Don't be a value demander.
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I'm more triggered by the declarations and assignments in if statements. The nesting isn't so bad. Also I'm the for/break design pattern that isn't at all leaking memory no sir there's no way that doesn't leak objects like a sieve. EDIT: After refactoring their code in my head a few times that else is completely redundant as well. BLEH. The Rabbi T. White posted:Stop stealing Trivial Fursuit team names. It's not stealing if I helped come up with them. SoftNum fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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I never backed or even knew what Star Citizen was before I found this thread, so I'm not really invested in the game being anything at all, and I don't really get the endless rubbing, the 50,000 word Stimpire screeds or the other more weird tendencies of the thread. But don't let that stop you guys from having fun. I am really enjoying the video game design related posts which are generally very good, even when it's just posters here explaining how concepts should work, rather than full presentations by experienced developers on completed projects. It's very interesting to see what is done and how things work, the considerations and decisions and compromises that are made during the process of development. The tricks and tools that are developed to make these things work, and further experimentation with those tools. The inverse kinematics video showcasing multiple very different models all working from the same basic animation set, from various sized and proportioned humans to walker robots, many-limbed monstrosities and even a shark. Or the modular design kits for Fallout, taking level design and art and methodically breaking the concepts down into a defined workflow that allows for more versatility, and actually minimising the amount of grand, expensive one-off pieces you need to build in the process. Or the Overwatch video, progressing from a single character and a gray world to a variety of characters with multiple mechanics in a fully realised level, figuring out what works and removing what doesn't along the way. In the context of this game, it's interesting and sometimes impressive to see this technical look at how for example Bethesda build things, but then you look at Star Citizen and try to look at their workflow through the same observational lens. And you simply can't do it. Everything about that GDQ talk was considered, measured, everything has a direction and a purpose. Art is to reinforce the structure and atmosphere of the level, it doesn't just exist for the sake of art. Star Citizen doesn't do this. Hell, Star Citizen doesn't even present like this. I thought the transcripts of their videos I'd seen here, all stuttering and ellipsis and buzzwords in all-caps, were kind of ridiculous. But that blathering miasma is pretty much what you get. And you don't have someone else manipulating it to make them look bad, springing the idea of a video on them unprepared, that's their own production. They planned it, produced it, and sent it out, this is how they sell themselves. They've been doing this for how long? And all their videos are full of what they hope they're going to be doing in future releases, with few solid results to demonstrate. It's staggering that they've been going this long and don't have any content to speak of. Dozens of ultra-high polygon assets, sure, but being able to choose between a hundred costumes in your Flash dress-up game doesn't make it work as an action RPG. That's what is the most annoying thing about the game itself, to me. Nothing has a purpose. Art exists here just to be looked at, just to be enticing, there is no consideration as to why things are being done. If they wanted a Star Citizen Sistine Chapel, they'd start by building and painting the roof. God knows what it would look like once they got that far. This is far too many words now. I'm sorry. I can only imagine how ridiculous this whole saga is for you who have been here from the beginning, who really understand game development, who care about the funding and the legal issues and all that. I'm only really interested in the work they haven't done in the five(?) years and $180m this game has apparently taken to develop.
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Sounds like this “gameplay story team” just got assembled recently. How interesting. I’m so sick of hearing CIG folks talk about “living breathing (X)”. They barely have AI working in year 6, and so unimportant has it always been to their priorities that they let backers vote on whether to accelerate production of FPS AI in their 2018 poll... AI is a Tier 1 priority for a single player game yet it’s always been tertiary to Chris’s “vision”... Which is exactly why the vertical slice spends 90% of an hour with passive travel on foot or in ships, 6% watching cutscenes, 2% in dialogue choices, 1% in hot combat action (like stealth takedowns of inert NPCs and shootouts with cartwheeling gymnast pirates), and 1% with puzzle-solving “gameplay” that’s sub Lego-title levels of complex... I really hope they can close the gap on their facial tech. Console titles from 2-4 years ago look more realistic and less rubbery. And if they’re two years out from release that gap is just going to widen further...
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Trillhouse posted:Part of the funniness of the AMD letter is that it was supposedly sent to AMD execs that had nothing to do with marketing. Like the VP of Chip Fabrication, stuff like that. Perfect.
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SoftNum posted:I'm more triggered by the declarations and assignments in if statements. The nesting isn't so bad. You can use the "never use" type designs if you know exactly what you are doing, and the code is well structured. Even "goto" does have use in C++, particularly in exiting error situations, even though classical teaching tells you never to use it. I haven't seen evidence that CIG's code reaches the quality where eschewed techniques are defensible.
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Will the 83 already voiced characters for SQ42 on IMDB have to come back and record what this "Gameplay Story" team comes up with? Or is "Gameplay Story" text based? What is "Gameplay Story"?
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MilesK posted:Will the 83 already voiced characters for SQ42 on IMDB have to come back and record what this "Gameplay Story" team comes up with? Or is "Gameplay Story" text based? What is "Gameplay Story"? In order to meet its release year of
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"Game" going into a broken pre-alpha server so Is it something that's supposed to be hidden? Every other game that does this does it for the publicity. WoW's next expansion just went beta and Blizz has been flooding its mailing lists with invites. I guess they should have kept it on the downlow! What the hell do they know, having run the most successful MMO in history and generating literal billions of dollars.
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Dementropy posted:
Quality. So they convince themselves that anyone claiming to be new and with concerns is a concern troll being put up to it by Derek/goons. Imagine the poor guy who takes a look at the game, has those concerns, posts on the sub, and immediately gets harassed. Its going to jaundice his view of the game and community badly. #notacult
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:The safe word is "Fidelity".  DapperDon posted:Lady you can wear a rainbow colored wig for all I care. I just want to see you in those heels. I'll keep this in mind! Extra points if you don't mind a riding crop and each verse of the July blog earns you another painful swat. It's not pleasure/pain, sort of like torture/pain, but it's close enough.
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