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OutOfPrint posted:If there has been a drop, I'd pin it to switching to unleaded gas, first. Adding lead to gasoline lead to entire generations of people with mild brain damage which caused violent impulses, among other things. There was also easier access to abortions and birth control which is often correlated with lower crime rates. There are lots of arguments and studies both ways on that though.
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I legit wonder how many get caught nowadays because of their DNA being in the system from previous convictions. That is, they would have been a serial killer before that particular advancement, or who were caught as they were escalating, but before their first murder. At least for the "disorganized" type anyways.
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glad she is dead posted:Possibly better tech has helped stop them as well - CCTV, DNA databases etc mean that potential serial killers might get caught on their first victim.
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There's always going to be plenty of serial killers who are not caught because even with all the technology it's just extremely difficult to link crimes together and find a suspect when the victims have no personal connection at all to the perpetrator. That's the part that took criminologists so long to clue in on in the first place, this idea that just because someone kills a person, that doesn't mean they had some sort of personal animus towards that person in particular. Traditional criminology theory was of course always focused on the more standard motives like jealousy or profit.
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Basebf555 posted:There's always going to be plenty of serial killers who are not caught because even with all the technology it's just extremely difficult to link crimes together and find a suspect when the victims have no personal connection at all to the perpetrator. That's the part that took criminologists so long to clue in on in the first place, this idea that just because someone kills a person, that doesn't mean they had some sort of personal animus towards that person in particular. Traditional criminology theory was of course always focused on the more standard motives like jealousy or profit. EAR/ONS is known as that because it took awhile to realize it was the same guy. And they've only now confirmed he did the Vidalia break ins, though that was theorized to be him for awhile. And don't forget women serial killers, who iirc tend to be more able to change up their MO to avoid being caught.
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Araenna posted:EAR/ONS is known as that because it took awhile to realize it was the same guy. And they've only now confirmed he did the Vidalia break ins, though that was theorized to be him for awhile. And don't forget women serial killers, who iirc tend to be more able to change up their MO to avoid being caught. Is that true? The only female serial killers I can think of off the top of my head are Wuornos, Belle Gunness, and that one woman from the family that ran the Inn and killed a bunch of people. All of them just sort of did what they did till they were caught or ran away.
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Blanche Taylor Moore certainly stuck to an MO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanche_Taylor_Moore
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As hard as it is to study male serial killers in any scientific way(it's all basically still just individual case studies), it's even harder for female killers because of how few we've seen comparatively. So the patterns that we might notice in the cases we do know about can't really be assumed to be anything other than coincidence.
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Women are less likely to be caught, as well, since they tend to use subtler methods than leaving a naked corpse in the woods.
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Here's an unnerving one. This must be the week for solving decades-old cases. Hope the trend continues. Disappearance of two Okla. girls stumped police for 18 years. Then they learned about the Polaroids. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.99b7479baa1b quote:On Dec. 30, 1999, Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible vanished from the scene of a double murder and arson in rural Oklahoma, sparking a hunt stretching to Mexico and Canada.
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MightyJoe36 posted:Here's an unnerving one. This must be the week for solving decades-old cases. Hope the trend continues. Holy poo poo. 
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MightyJoe36 posted:Here's an unnerving one. This must be the week for solving decades-old cases. Hope the trend continues. That 2 of them died before they could be held accountable for this is the ultimate kick in the nuts. What an awful story.
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Oh, also, Bill Cosby is going to die in prison, which is a happy ending to a horrible saga.
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Yeah, and just in case you still had some sliver of pity for him because you bought into the confused old man act, he went ahead and yelled at the DA during his sentencing. He's all there, and all terrible.
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Ariong posted:Yeah, and just in case you still had some sliver of pity for him because you bought into the confused old man act, he went ahead and yelled at the DA during his sentencing. He's all there, and all terrible. Not only that, but he specifically lost his cool right at the moment when the DA brought up to the judge that he's a flight risk(he owns a private plane), and, therefore should not be allowed bail while waiting for sentencing. I think he had it in the back of his mind that even if convicted he could just hop in the plane and go to Belize or wherever.
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Ariong posted:Yeah, and just in case you still had some sliver of pity for him because you bought into the confused old man act, he went ahead and yelled at the DA during his sentencing. He's all there, and all terrible. Well, he yelled at the DA when the DA wanted bail revoked pending sentencing because "He probably has a plane," and Cosby said "He doesn't have a plane, you rear end in a top hat." I mean, if you did buy into the confused old man act that's not a yell that's going to change your mind. http://www.wwltv.com/article/news/investigations/eaten-alive-woman-known-for-beauty-suffers-horrific-death-at-nursing-home/546023226?i quote:An 11Alive investigation uncovered a Georgia nursing home resident died from a scabies infestation. A forensic pathologist who reviewed the case estimates millions of parasitic mites essentially ate her alive over several months or possibly years. Mites ate her limbs to the point she was clearly gangrenous. quote:Chance claims staff were told not to touch Zeni’s hand. “There was a conversation at this nursing home with a healthcare provider about being careful about touching Ms. Zeni’s hand for fear that it might fall off her body,” claims Chance in an interview.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Is that true? The only female serial killers I can think of off the top of my head are Wuornos, Belle Gunness, and that one woman from the family that ran the Inn and killed a bunch of people. All of them just sort of did what they did till they were caught or ran away. TBH I know I've heard it several times but I'm not sure I ever really looked into it myself. Some casual googling makes it look like even if it was a thing people said, it's outdated information, because of how few female serial killers we are aware of, and how for years people denied that they even existed. I'd think, though, that since it seems like there's more who do it for things like financial gain compared to their male counterparts, and also less of a sexual bent in general, that it's at least POSSIBLE that they are better at changing their MO. Of course, when it comes down to it, the ones we catch tend to be the ones with a specific MO or signature of some sort, since it's much easier to link the murders together. So we probably don't really have a good idea about serial killers in general, just the ones we catch (and know are serial killers, since I'm sure there are those out there that get arrested and tried for murder without anyone realizing that there are more victims out there). ETA: Sorry for repeating what seems to be bull poo poo without actually making sure it was true.
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OutOfPrint posted:If there has been a drop, I'd pin it to switching to unleaded gas, first. Adding lead to gasoline lead to entire generations of people with mild brain damage which caused violent impulses, among other things. eh I dunno, we have a potential one an hour away from me that has made national headlines. My wife's cousin was a teacher of the newest possible victim. The fact that the Sherriff's Department there is notoriously corrupt ain't helping either.
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I know we’re on serial killer chat right now so sorry for dredging up cult chat again, but I just listened to the LPotL episode on NXIVM and they mentioned that potential employees went to a five week “training session” where they a) served only vegetarian meals, and b) had cell phone signal blockers. Now that latter thing is a p obvious cult red flag but the vegetarian thing is a classic but not very well known cult move. If you are in a group that insists you eat a vegetarian diet - unless it is an explicitly vegetarian group and you’re exchanging recipes - be real, real careful. That’s step one in making someone’s brain nice and malleable. (also in this episode they made fun of UCB a lot which as a former Groundling student I find pretty funny)
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Depressio111117 posted:I know we’re on serial killer chat right now so sorry for dredging up cult chat again, but I just listened to the LPotL episode on NXIVM and they mentioned that potential employees went to a five week “training session” where they a) served only vegetarian meals, and b) had cell phone signal blockers. Obviously vegetarian diets can be properly maintained and healthy but with the cult thing it's using vegetarian as a smokescreen for the real purpose of malnutrition, right?
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It's the lack of protein in vegetarian diets. It's much harder to get protein without meat unless you plan very carefully and use supplements sometimes. Lack of protein turns your brain to mush so cults love it E: so yeah a vegetarian diet in those cases is to sound spiritual while hiding the fact you're getting low protein EmmyOk has a new favorite as of 11:16 on Apr 27, 2018 |
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Aum Shinrikyo did the same thing. (Along with staggering amounts of LSD)
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FrozenVent posted:Sleep and food depravation are real easy way to get people in a receptive state. There's a reason those are both considered torture.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-43928277 Peru child sacrifice discovery may be largest in history
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If you want to be unnerved, set up a google alert on human sacrifice and watch the surprisingly high reports of modern instances roll in weekly.
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FrozenVent posted:Sleep and food depravation are real easy way to get people in a receptive state. but enough about high school
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EmmyOk posted:It's the lack of protein in vegetarian diets. It's much harder to get protein without meat unless you plan very carefully and use supplements sometimes. Lack of protein turns your brain to mush so cults love it Are you sure you guys aren't thinking of vegan diets? Vegetarians can eat dairy - they don't really need supplements and careful planning to stay healthy.
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Nobody who has even googled the word "vegetarian" thinks the problem with the diet is a lack of protein. Vegetarians get more than enough protein but do implicitly supplement vitamin b12 through fortified bread and milks.
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xtal posted:Nobody who has even googled the word "vegetarian" thinks the problem with the diet is a lack of protein. Vegetarians get more than enough protein but do implicitly supplement vitamin b12 through fortified bread and milks. Vegetarians don't need to take B12 - you're thinking of vegans. Source - https://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Vegetarianhealth/Pages/Vegetarianhealthqanda.aspx quote:Vitamin B12 is only found naturally in foods from animal sources, so sources for vegans are limited and a vitamin B12 supplement may be needed. If you eat dairy products and eggs, you probably get enough.
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The point is not that normal vegetarians can’t get necessary nutrients in their diet, it’s that a lot of cults use protein deprivation as a means of making people less mentally sharp and it’s often disguised as a vegetarian diet which is “healthier” or “more spiritual” or whatever the cult’s personal flavor is.
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Depressio111117 posted:The point is not that normal vegetarians can’t get necessary nutrients in their diet, it’s that a lot of cults use protein deprivation as a means of making people less mentally sharp and it’s often disguised as a vegetarian diet which is “healthier” or “more spiritual” or whatever the cult’s personal flavor is. This is a good point and way better than what I was talking about.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43928318 It's no cult or serial killer but boy is it unnerving
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It's ok because the proponents have surely already agreed to the procedure themselves
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8 Ball posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-43928318 Oh god we’re only 10 years away from old rich fuckers transferring their brains to younger bodies so they can live forever aren’t we? Like Get Out but not in secret- totally out in the open. The baby boomers will NEVER stop loving us.
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Hey if we can clone people we can at least have our own bodies with our old-rear end brains. Seems like a sweet deal to me.
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Science can figure this out but I still can’t drink ice water without horrible tooth pain. I hate this lousy reality.
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Loomer posted:If you want to be unnerved, set up a google alert on human sacrifice and watch the surprisingly high reports of modern instances roll in weekly. Yeah... I'm not going to do that but if you have any links i'll give them a read
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