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Like, I'm pretty sure SA never stopped anyone from being furries or bronies or having weird fetishes or drawing Sonic/Warhammer 40k fancomics. It just made them hate SA for being full of holier-than-thou bullies.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Like, I'm pretty sure SA never stopped anyone from being furries or bronies or having weird fetishes or drawing Sonic/Warhammer 40k fancomics. It just made them hate SA for being full of holier-than-thou bullies. That's fine, as long as they aren't on SA.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Like, I'm pretty sure SA never stopped anyone from being furries or bronies or having weird fetishes or drawing Sonic/Warhammer 40k fancomics. It just made them hate SA for being full of holier-than-thou bullies. But what is the line between holier-than thou bullying and calling out toxcicty? The former is something SA is quite guilty of i'll agree, but latter is also something that I'm curious about. I don't care if a community develops around something odd or different, but if it harbours and defends extremely deviant behaviour and uses the shield of ostracisation and playing the victum to defend to do so.... how then is it possible to call said community out. A hyper bullying toxic environment can exist, but by that logic, can't a hyper victim toxic environment? (I'm talking about the idea of the toxicvictim mentality, that a person is a victim and everything/one else is to blame)
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Apr 28, 2018 13:58
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Foul Ole Ron posted:A hyper bullying toxic environment can exist, but by that logic, can't a hyper victim toxic environment? (I'm talking about the idea of the toxicvictim mentality, that a person is a victim and everything/one else is to blame) You've just describes incels.
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yep, thats incels. maybe those special furries whose past lives are dragons or unicorns? but thats like what 10 idiots tops. there are probably more than a thousand self-proclaimed incels. Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 14:37 on Apr 28, 2018 |
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So these two types of extreme exist, logically there is a balanced community? One where people are accepted and things can be accepted, but common sense based limits. Like is there some place online where a community works in the bounds of common sense and reasonable justification?
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Apr 28, 2018 15:13
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Foul Ole Ron posted:So these two types of extreme exist, logically there is a balanced community? theres probably some ezboard community someone made in like 2005 still going thats like that but I think once a certain amount of people become part of a community similar things happen to it
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purple death ray posted:theres probably some ezboard community someone made in like 2005 still going thats like that but I think once a certain amount of people become part of a community similar things happen to it I would guess the next logical step for such a place would be either embrace it. Or, which is probably best, banhammer until balance is restored.
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purple death ray posted:theres probably some ezboard community someone made in like 2005 still going thats like that but I think once a certain amount of people become part of a community similar things happen to it good god imagine if that weird hidden forum with the gross flirting thread had attracted more secret visitors
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Apr 28, 2018 16:06
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why the gently caress did this thread descend into poorly-spelled amateur goon sociology
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:why the gently caress did this thread descend into poorly-spelled amateur goon sociology Let's be honest, how many threads don't?
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Apr 28, 2018 16:41
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there might be some typos but it doesnt seem that poorly spelled to me
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I'm pretty sure the most hyper-toxic communities are victimhood ones, since anything is justified in the righteous struggle against your oppressors.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm pretty sure the most hyper-toxic communities are victimhood ones, since anything is justified in the righteous struggle against your oppressors. its not about the struggle. those toxic communities are staying home (at least until someone snaps i guess) its about the weird communal reinforcement of the victimhood.
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Apr 28, 2018 17:23
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:why the gently caress did this thread descend into poorly-spelled amateur goon sociology Because I'm poo poo at grammer? Also isn't the greatest saga of SA the effect its had on others?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm pretty sure the most hyper-toxic communities are victimhood ones, since anything is justified in the righteous struggle against your oppressors. Most right wing communities also fall under victimhood As they think that being called out for constant seething hatred of minorities, usually based on the most idiotic made up poo poo, is oppression. Been browsing subReddits of course.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I'm pretty sure the most hyper-toxic communities are victimhood ones, since anything is justified in the righteous struggle against your oppressors. Yeah. I mean there are real groups of people who have been and still are victims of society, but even for these groups of people, dwelling on and obsessing about your victimhood isn't healthy and often isn't very productive. Once you get into this mindset, you start to see injustices against you everywhere and tilt at windmills. I am reminded of a trans poster on this site who is very fond of posting about her victimhood complaining about how being given stock from one of the world's wealthiest and most successful companies as a part of her compensation for being a computer programmer was a form of injustice against her, lol
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A bad poo poo post. Foul Ole Ron has a new favorite as of 18:14 on Apr 28, 2018 |
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silence_kit here to tell us all about the true victims white men who aren't allowed to post online without being punished
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silence_kit posted:Yeah. I mean there are real groups of people who have been and still are victims of society, but even for these groups of people, dwelling on and obsessing about your victimhood isn't healthy and often isn't very productive. Once you get into this mindset, you start to see injustices against you everywhere and tilt at windmills. literally not the same
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Krankenstyle posted:literally not the same Obviously communities formed around a false and delusional victim hood are the most harmful. Duh. There’s not a lot to say or argue about there. But you don’t see what I’m saying? In the case of legitimate injustice, it is obviously prudent to be aware and not ignorant of slights against yourself, but the victim mentality is usually not productive or healthy.
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Picking an actual victimized group as your example is literally the worst way to prove your point. Wait I didn’t see your other point that even being a victim isnt enough for you Jesus. Your just a lost cause.
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You should stop.
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silence_kit posted:Obviously communities formed around a false and delusional victim hood are the most harmful. Duh. There’s not a lot to say or argue about there. follow your leader.
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Foul Ole Ron posted:One thing SA has done right is mocking/taking the piss/shaming deviant behaviour. The big difference between SomethingAwful and the rest of the internet is that we're pretty self-aware. We know exactly what we are, why we are that way, and what the ramifications of it are. The interesting thing about the Geek Fallacy stuff is that not only is it true that these fallacies exist but the people who push it the hardest in their communities are often super toxic people that have been pushed out elsewhere. The fact that SA actively removes its worst members is part of why the community has actually survived. This is also one of the differences between like Facebook, Reddit, and SA; the former two have been actively trying to get as many users as possible the consequences of that be damned because they're businesses. Sr. Lowtax has stated that he's never run this place like a business and never will; he doesn't want as many users as possible as as much profit as possible just isn't the goal. It'd probably be to his and SA's benefit to think in a businessy way at least partially so he can afford better insurance for the next time his body decides to hate him but still...it's a totally different philosophy. If you haven't watched it yet go watch Lowtax's lecture at a college https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYrz_1hV0OU&t=3858s The main point is that the internet concentrates things. There's effectively an infinite amount of communities out there so people that want to be victims find communities of victims to reinforce that. Meanwhile people that want to be trolls find communities of trolls to reinforce that. One of the reasons the internet is so incredibly toxic is because you have entire communities of people (hello, 4Chan!) encouraging each other to be as terrible as they possibly can. This is also why America is polarizing; it's so easy to find a hug box that will reinforce all of your beliefs and never, ever challenge them in any way. People who do challenge the beliefs of the community are cast out.
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the greatest sagas of the SA forums: toxic toxic toxic toxic, toxic toxic, toxic? Toxic.
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Pham Nuwen posted:the greatest sagas of the SA forums: toxic toxic toxic toxic, toxic toxic, toxic? Toxic. also puckins
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Favorite recent forums saga has to be when windows98, a shovel-wielding idiot everybody hates, wrote a big middle-school-english-class essay about Why He Would Make A Good Mod and posted it in QCS. He was mocked by pretty much everyone but apparently the mods thought that writing a few paragraphs where you pretend you're smart and not insane means that greatness lies within you because they came up with a bizarre plan to make him some kind of secret mod who could probate and ban people but someone else's name would show up in the lepers colony. This very strange plan fell apart because windows98 immediately ran to gbs and made a thread bragging that he was going to be a mod soon. The mods came to their senses and kicked him to the curb, and the rest of the thread was everyone ragging on windows98 and wondering why anyone thought he was mod material. In conclusion, don't give psychotic idiots the role of forums gestapo.
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Stexils posted:Favorite recent forums saga has to be when windows98, a shovel-wielding idiot everybody hates, wrote a big middle-school-english-class essay about Why He Would Make A Good Mod and posted it in QCS. He was mocked by pretty much everyone but apparently the mods thought that writing a few paragraphs where you pretend you're smart and not insane means that greatness lies within you because they came up with a bizarre plan to make him some kind of secret mod who could probate and ban people but someone else's name would show up in the lepers colony. This very strange plan fell apart because windows98 immediately ran to gbs and made a thread bragging that he was going to be a mod soon. The mods came to their senses and kicked him to the curb, and the rest of the thread was everyone ragging on windows98 and wondering why anyone thought he was mod material. A single admin, Lowtax's wife, was the only person who thought making him a mod was a good idea. We, being pretty much all of the other mods and admins, were all extremely pissed off when some random idiot started buying us all avs complaining about it, and it took a while for us and for his behavior to convince her that this is a bad idea.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:A single admin, Lowtax's wife, was the only person who thought making him a mod was a good idea. We, being pretty much all of the other mods and admins, were all extremely pissed off when some random idiot started buying us all avs complaining about it, and it took a while for us and for his behavior to convince her that this is a bad idea. I tend to blur that sequence of events into the whole "D&D got very mad and powercucked Lowtax off his own forums" saga, but my memory is hazy and I am very dumb.
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a goon won a NASCAR race https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZtFosJYza0
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exploded mummy posted:a goon won a NASCAR race Do you mean goon in the metaphorical sense or in the "Posts on the Something Awful Forums" sense because I can see it either way
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Do you mean goon in the metaphorical sense or in the "Posts on the Something Awful Forums" sense because I can see it either way latter
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Do you mean goon in the metaphorical sense or in the "Posts on the Something Awful Forums" sense because I can see it either way https://forums.somethingawful.com/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=96275
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The big difference between SomethingAwful and the rest of the internet is that we're pretty self-aware. We know exactly what we are, why we are that way, and what the ramifications of it are. 
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exploded mummy posted:latter It makes sense that if a Goon were going to win something, it would be in Literally the Worst Sport, with the Possible Exception of Golf.
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