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Playing triple Khador colossals is going to be so fun; War Room Army Khador - Northern Rim Theme: Jaws of the Wolf 4 / 4 Free Cards 75 / 75 Army Kommander Harkevich, The Iron Wolf - WJ: +28 - Victor - PC: 34 (Battlegroup Points Used: 28) - Victor - PC: 34 - Conquest - PC: 35 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Widowmaker Marksman - PC: 0 Greylord Forge Seer - PC: 0 Yuri the Axe - PC: 0 THEME: Jaws of the Wolf --- GENERATED : 04/26/2018 15:10:48 BUILD ID : 2061.18-02-21
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 22:15 |
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# ? May 18, 2024 03:16 |
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Khador dynamic update FINALLY dropped!!! Only change from week3 that I see is the loss of dual attack on Spriggan, but i'm hoping that's just a fuckup on their end...
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 22:36 |
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Eh, double colossal is still superior. https://conflictchamber.com/#c3201b_-0f79k-e3kX8tgc867S7T7X Khador Army - 74 / 75 points [Theme] Winter Guard Kommand (Irusk 2) Supreme Kommandant Irusk [+27] - Victor [34] Kovnik Andrei Malakov [4] - Conquest [35] Kovnik Jozef Grigorovich [4] Winter Guard Artillery Kapitan [3] Battle Mechaniks (min) [3] Winter Guard Infantry (max) [10] - Winter Guard Infantry Officer & Standard [0(4)] Winter Guard Rifle Corps (min) [8]
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 22:52 |
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Jimmy Hats posted:Khador dynamic update FINALLY dropped!!! Only change from week3 that I see is the loss of dual attack on Spriggan, but i'm hoping that's just a fuckup on their end... Good news! Pagani confirmed Dual Attack is back on!
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 02:05 |
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Good news! Pagani confirmed Dual Attack is back on! I figured it was a fuckup. lol
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 02:23 |
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If kolgrima feats, and then irusk2 feats, do the models have pathdinder?
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 03:29 |
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This sounds like more of a philosophical question than a rules one. Edit: if dice fall in the middle of a forest and nobody is around to see it, did you hit?
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 03:47 |
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Its prolly gonna come up real soob. Im 93% certain they get pathfinder again cuz its a pulse but who knows with this stupid game
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 03:56 |
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They should get pathfinder back. Compare the wording on Kolgrima with Baldur1. Even abilities like Relentless Charge get around her feat.
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 06:47 |
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5 new Menoth Models previewed in the Dev Hangout. Rather cringey video, as the spoiler detail for the new caster Cyrenia? was Hungerford saying "Oh she's going going be super intolerant, crazy religious, but a lady....." Exemplar Cinerator Officer grants Shield Guard plus "lots of other stuff". Hand Of Silence mounted Reclaimer solo gathers souls. Exemplar Warder warcaster attachment is a "combat focused" model with Guard Dog. Structure that's a big Church, no details given other than "looks cool". Full CID should be out next week. Maybe a few Menoth casters can actually survive after a charge with a guard dog now. Cinerators all having Shield Guard + Vengeance seems cool. Thoughts? Nighttheii fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Apr 27, 2018 |
# ? Apr 27, 2018 18:05 |
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Cinnies becoming valkyries is a very good thing. Now they and bastions just need 8 boxes back. Structures are farrrrrrrt
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 18:58 |
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I have the feeling like that thing will be refilling exemplar units and that makes me sad and angry.
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 20:21 |
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Im hoping for something less lame than just another blockhouse/siege crawler/sepulchre (they all suck!!!)
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 21:24 |
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How is that cringey? The protectorate set you on fire in a public square if you are caught stealing. The Harbringer let a group of Morrowan refugees get turned into meat for Cryx because their leading priest didn’t immediately give up the god he worshipped all his life. I just don’t see the cringe factor.
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 21:26 |
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Jimmy Hats posted:Im hoping for something less lame than just another blockhouse/siege crawler/sepulchre (they all suck!!!) Sorry but those are all examples of awesome things actually I do expect it to do something other than just crap out reinforcements though because that would be waaay too samey
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 21:38 |
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Guard Dog on a model like Thyra seems Real Good, and Cinerators with Shield Guard seems Real Good. Maybe this mounted Reclaimer will be a better Jack Marshal than what we have currently Maybe the structure is Severius' tomb. Excelsiortothemax posted:How is that cringey? The protectorate set you on fire in a public square if you are caught stealing. The priest said he would and didn't mean it and Harbinger figured it out pretty quick
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 21:41 |
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Excelsiortothemax posted:How is that cringey? The protectorate set you on fire in a public square if you are caught stealing. The cringey part is that hungerford gives the distinct impression hes pumping his hog to the 3D render of the new menoth caster's model
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 22:13 |
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I mean so am I but like, I dont go on stream
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 22:13 |
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I dunno what is with you that made you get that impression, but, uh, I'm pretty sure you're the only one on that boat
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 22:33 |
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Where are you guys seeing these? Asking for a friend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EF6kB9q4vg
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# ? Apr 27, 2018 23:43 |
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Jimmy Hats posted:The cringey part is that hungerford gives the distinct impression hes pumping his hog to the 3D render of the new menoth caster's model This is a pretty weird post, man.
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# ? Apr 28, 2018 03:25 |
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Fyrbrand posted:This is a pretty weird post, man.
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# ? Apr 28, 2018 03:55 |
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I dunno the whole thing surrounding Harby is pretty gross because of the whole "she's underaged" thing that a lot of people seem to...Jimmy Hats posted:The cringey part is that hungerford gives the distinct impression hes pumping his hog to the 3D render of the new menoth caster's model
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# ? Apr 28, 2018 15:31 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtkikHs6cCI This is the dev hangout with Menoth teasers, minute 6 to 11 ish. It's tough to get through them trying make up a distracted boyfriend meme, and not really land it. Then just repeating that Cyrenia is lady several times as a unique selling point.
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# ? Apr 28, 2018 16:56 |
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Oh I got the impression there were actual pics. Thanks for the link anyway, though.
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# ? Apr 28, 2018 17:32 |
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Just got a list of the Khador lot I'm picking up this week:code:
With foam and tokens all for $200. It's a solid start into Khador I'm hype. Guy quitting because "themes is cancer"
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 04:21 |
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He must have hated Mk 2, then. Either way, that's a loving deal, holy poo poo
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 04:28 |
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Thats quite the meltdown!!!
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 17:13 |
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lokipunk posted:Guy quitting because "themes is cancer" As someone just getting started, I have trouble with theme forces. Their use doesn't seem optional. For the price of restricted unit list, you bet a bonus ~15% points in a 75 point game. That's calculated including the warlock bonus. That's the view from someone who hasn't played a game. Maybe in practice the restrictions really do balance out the bonus points?
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 17:35 |
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Maneck posted:As someone just getting started, I have trouble with theme forces. Their use doesn't seem optional. They don't. The game is balanced around themes currently. Unless you have a spectacularly specific reason you shouldn't play out of theme and expect an even game.
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 17:51 |
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Maneck posted:As someone just getting started, I have trouble with theme forces. Their use doesn't seem optional. They don't. It's a game design tactic to improve balance by reducing the number of variables in competitive play by unofficially breaking the game into subfactions. You can technically play out of tier, but it's not really viable, and they can put strict restrictions on tier composition. This is the DesignSpace we were warned about. Edit: I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, even though I personally don't like it. If, say, Hand of Judgement is considered broken with Malekus, they don't need to nerf HoJ or Malekus. They separate them by tiers and keep both models strong. My flgs has a mix of casual and competitive players, and "are you playing in tier or not" has become shorthand for "how competitive a game are we playing" Alpha Phoenix fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Apr 30, 2018 |
# ? Apr 30, 2018 17:53 |
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Had a great game at a charity event (we raised over £1200 for our untimely deceased former PG's charity of choice). Dropped my Maelok list into this Kallus2 Ogrun list as I thought a Dracodile vs Blightbringer and Posse vs Ogrun would be awesome to watch, especially all painted. Unfortunately the Dracodile never got to charge in on the big guy, but I'm really enjoying Maelok, and pulled out a 5-0 scenario win.
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 18:08 |
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Alpha Phoenix posted:They don't. Seriously? Then why is Privateer Press selling things like this https://store.privateerpress.com/legion-of-everblight-army-box-2017 It's actually advertised as "the quickest and easiest way to storm the battlefields" but pre-made army kit contains: - Thagrosh, Prophet of Everblight Warlock - Carnivean Heavy Warbeast - Scythean Heavy Warbeast - Blighted Nyss Swordsmen Unit (10) - Blighted Nyss Swordsman Abbot & Champion Command Attachment (2) - Strider Scouts Unit (6) - Strider Scout Officer & Musician Command Attachment (2) - Blighted Nyss Shepherd Solo - Incubus Solos (5) The Blighted Nyss Swordsmen and incubus can only be taken in Children of the Dragon, the Carnivean, Scythean and Blighted Nyss Sheperd only be taken in Oracles of Annihilation, Striders and can only be taken in Ravens of War.
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 21:12 |
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Idk probably because it gives people incentive to buy for multiple themes rather than just one
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 21:29 |
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Or because not playing in theme is fine for casual play.
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 21:30 |
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Or it gives a solid starting point to branch off into themes...
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 21:33 |
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Its probably because the sales side and the game side have no fuckin idea what the other one is doing
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 21:41 |
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Dude I'm pretty sure those boxes were released before the vast majority of themes were released anyways. They were mostly mirroring the similarly priced all in one boxes from a year or two earlier.
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 21:47 |
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edit: ^ What he said It also predates themes as they exist now.
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# ? Apr 30, 2018 21:52 |
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It's pretty inevitable in a 15 year old game. The model release bloat has to keep rolling to stay in business, but the more good models that exist, the more unpredictable combinations crop up. Factions have triple or more the number of options that they had in mk1, and since PP is dedicated to keeping new models balanced and interesting (or at least unique), they need to reign it in by creating a system where a Circle wold army is utterly unique from a beast spam Circle army, which is nearly unique from an infantry Circle army. To their credit, the worst models in Warmachine are still playable, and the faction balance is nearly perfect. Other games just let old models be bad and literally unplayable. The current iteration of tiers makes a subfaction split is technically optional, since there has been great outcry over "invalidating models" in the past. It lets them add new models that could have broken combinations without worrying as much. It's more obvious in Menoth than other factions. I can't take Flame Bringer cav in the same tier as Venger cav, and Paladin solo cav can't go in either tier. It pains my old Brettonian heart.
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