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bewbies posted:TIME FOR SOME PEDANTRY I remember reading somewhere that the Me-262's swept wing was actually to correct a CG imbalance rather than affect the speed characteristics but now I can't remember where I read that or whether it's true, can you confirm?
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I was reading a history of the 3rd Royal Tank Regiment in WW2, and it got me thinking. Looking at their record, they seem to have been involved in most of the major British battles/campaigns of the war in the west (except for the Italian front). I'm sure they're not unique in this. Does anyone else have examples of units that manged to be involved in almost every major campaign/battle of a war?
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Tomn posted:
Obviously, the German governments of the time saw this differently. They saw this as France trying to destroy them, so they fought back tooth and nail. (There was this one nasty uprising in the twenties where it turned out the French had essentially turned some of the political leaders along the German states at their western border. No-one ever remembers this because those uprisings failed hard and fast. They had after all nearly zero backing by the population.)
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I remember reading that the 1871 indemnity was supposed to be the same as that imposed by Napoleon (plus inflation), is that the case?
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Libluini posted:Obviously, the German governments of the time saw this differently. They saw this as France trying to destroy them, so they fought back tooth and nail. (There was this one nasty uprising in the twenties where it turned out the French had essentially turned some of the political leaders along the German states at their western border. No-one ever remembers this because those uprisings failed hard and fast. They had after all nearly zero backing by the population.) The policies pursued that led to hyper-inflation also weren't as obvious as just printing lots of money (remember that Germany was still on the gold standard). If I remember correctly one of the primary drivers was that the German government resolved to continue paying the factory workers in the occupied Ruhr, who weren't going to work, full or even inflated wages, and that this helped drive inflation out of control. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 00:55 on May 1, 2018 |
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Do we have a thread for economic history or good sources on this? I have a ton of questions related to this but I don't even know where to start asking.
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Don Gato posted:Do we have a thread for economic history or good sources on this? I have a ton of questions related to this but I don't even know where to start asking. Interwar Germany broadly falls under milhist, I'd say just ask.
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this became "the good hist thread but mostly with soldiers" a longass time ago
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chitoryu12 posted:Due to its design problems, the Panther ended up being best used in a fixed position firing at known points that the gunner could easily reach (because he had no unmagnified sight, so it took 20 or 30 seconds of work with the commander to find a new target). Its gun was really good against tanks but not as good as some less powerful ones for infantry support and couldn’t be fired rapidly without stressing the barrel. It couldn’t really be used on mild slopes or while moving and the driver could wreck the transmission with sloppy shifting or neutral steering. The bolded is one of my favorite tiny little details about later German tanks that I absolutely love. The gunners had sights/scopes that you could count the enemy tank commander's nosehairs with...provided they could find the tank to fire at while being zoomed in. It's the same effect as playing the modern Battlefield games and slapping a 12x scope on your gun if any of y'all are familiar with those: it's just too much magnification to be useful. Especially in a tank that doesn't give you an unmagnified viewport to look through to acquire a target in the first place. Panzer Commander: "We need better sights for our tanks so the gunner can find the target!" *Porsche increases the magnification on the gunner's sight, still doesn't add a wide-angle sight for the gunner to look through.* Panzer Commander: "I said better not more powerful" *Factory dabbles in night vision cameras, gunner still looking at the world through a pinhole.* Panzer Commander: "Schiess...you are not listening."
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HEY GUNS posted:this became "the good hist thread but mostly with soldiers" a longass time ago If you're asking about history that happened after the fall of the Roman Empire, it goes here. Before the fall of the Roman empire, it goes in the other thread.
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sullat posted:If you're asking about history that happened after the fall of the Roman Empire, it goes here. Before the fall of the Roman empire, it goes in the other thread. if you're asking about people who hit people with swords, it goes here. if you want to hit people with swords, it goes in the fencing thread.
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Can anyone name one topic in history that's not directly or indirectly related to military history?
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Honestly the thread should really be renamed IMO, there've been a number of posts over the years like "oh, I thought that thread was just tanks and stuff" which on the one hand isn't really wrong but also means with a different title maybe we could trick some other people into actually taking a look.
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ponzicar posted:Can anyone name one topic in history that's not directly or indirectly related to military history? not...hitting people...with swords?
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It's a shame that "TIME FOR SOME PEDANTRY" came in just too late to make it as a thread title. (I say lovingly and approvingly, pedantry is what I assume the rest of you come here for too)
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for that matter personally I'd like to see a different thread for WW2 tanks/vehicles etc since it's one of the only subjects that could probably sustain one by itself and I have very little interest in it but then I guess the same goes for other people wrt e.g. me finding a way to bring up Korea all the time and I suppose some cross pollination in subjects isn't a bad thing. I tend to skip the WW2 armor posts but from time to time I end up reading them and I guess I know a lot more about it than I would have otherwise.
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ponzicar posted:Can anyone name one topic in history that's not directly or indirectly related to military history? Linguistics?
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ponzicar posted:Can anyone name one topic in history that's not directly or indirectly related to military history? The Clausewitz corollary: military history is merely a continuation of history by pikes and poo poo.
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Linguistics is super influenced by the movement of peoples and dominant classes and so on, which all tends to have hitting people with swords factor into them in some way.
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Gnoman posted:Linguistics? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzf60iFsx2c
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Have you considered that swords are cool
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Koramei posted:Linguistics is super influenced by the movement of peoples and dominant classes and so on, which all tends to have hitting people with swords factor into them in some way. There you go. The answer to the question was probably "no", then.
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Ainsley McTree posted:It's a shame that "TIME FOR SOME PEDANTRY" came in just too late to make it as a thread title. I'm just here to gush about dumb stuff and be called a wehraboo in the process.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:I'm just here to gush about dumb stuff and be called a wehraboo in the process. A wehraboo, but for Japanese tech. If we could just think of a name for it
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Koramei posted:for that matter personally I'd like to see a different thread for WW2 tanks/vehicles etc since it's one of the only subjects that could probably sustain one by itself and I have very little interest in it but then I guess the same goes for other people wrt e.g. me finding a way to bring up Korea all the time and I suppose some cross pollination in subjects isn't a bad thing. I tend to skip the WW2 armor posts but from time to time I end up reading them and I guess I know a lot more about it than I would have otherwise. We had one, it died.
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Ainsley McTree posted:A wehraboo, but for Japanese tech. If we could just think of a name for it What are you implying here? The playstation 4 is simply the superior console.
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WW2 Data So what the hell do Submarines use as pyrotechnics? Well... lithium, for one. But how is it used, and what does it create? What colours are used in the various flares available to a submarine? What precautions should be taken for emergency signals? What colour requires more attention, and why? How exactly does a "False Target" shell or can work? All that and more at the blog!
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In the early modern it was clearly the entire point to have your bulge noticed
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HEY GUNS posted:this became "the good hist thread but mostly with soldiers" a longass time ago Military History Mk. III: The Good History Thread (feat. Soldiers)
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Tias posted:Did I seriously pick two thread titles in a row? PittTheElder posted:It's too long though? Not showing up correctly for me, ends at "another is". The Milhist Thread: Archaic Dick Truncation
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sullat posted:If you're asking about history that happened after the fall of the Roman Empire, it goes here. Before the fall of the Roman empire, it goes in the other thread. I'm pretty sure we've discussed pre-1453 milhist in this thread before, you know 
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The Roman Empire ended in 1990, when the Germans under Franz Beckenbauer won the World Cup in Rome
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Randarkman posted:The policies pursued that led to hyper-inflation also weren't as obvious as just printing lots of money (remember that Germany was still on the gold standard). If I remember correctly one of the primary drivers was that the German government resolved to continue paying the factory workers in the occupied Ruhr, who weren't going to work, full or even inflated wages, and that this helped drive inflation out of control. Yeah, with measures like that, we can answer Tomn's question with "Yes, the majority of Germans were on board with this" 
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Ghetto Prince posted:What are you implying here? The playstation 4 is simply the superior console. American planes had the wrong engines
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6_I5_eSrvkaphid_licker posted:The Roman Empire ended in 1990, when the Germans under Franz Beckenbauer won the World Cup in Rome
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Randarkman posted:The policies pursued that led to hyper-inflation also weren't as obvious as just printing lots of money (remember that Germany was still on the gold standard). If I remember correctly one of the primary drivers was that the German government resolved to continue paying the factory workers in the occupied Ruhr, who weren't going to work, full or even inflated wages, and that this helped drive inflation out of control. It always amuses me when people pull out the 'hyperinflation had nothing to do with the rise of the Nazis' line as if it's completely ridiculous to suggest that a major economic catastrophe could have political implications that ripple on for over a decade.
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StandardVC10 posted:I remember reading somewhere that the Me-262's swept wing was actually to correct a CG imbalance rather than affect the speed characteristics but now I can't remember where I read that or whether it's true, can you confirm? Here's a good albeit dense overview of these early jets.
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StandardVC10 posted:I remember reading somewhere that the Me-262's swept wing was actually to correct a CG imbalance rather than affect the speed characteristics but now I can't remember where I read that or whether it's true, can you confirm? It seems probably apocryphal to me but you see people make that claim occasionally. German engineers were experimenting with swept wings (for aerodynamic reasons) years before the 262, and Messerschmitt was putting swept wings on all of its transonic aircraft (163 and the 1101) at the time. I've never seen any primary source thing to support it but I bet if anywhere could find such a thing it is this thread.
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