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coconono posted:Have they ever covered how much merch Roman is moving? Most of Vince's failed projects tend to get waysided after the numbers come in. 4/16/18 Observer quote:Regarding merchandise sales, Cena is still far and away No. 1. Styles and Reigns right now duel for the No. 2 spot so Styles is probably making a ton of money right now. The New Day are also very strong performers in that regard and guys like Balor, Rollins and Strowman also do very well. Tato posted:Hard to ever get hard numbers, but Meltzer periodically mentions who is moving the most stuff. The last time I heard him mention it was slightly before WM, he said that Cena still sells the most merchandise even though he's rarely there. Roman and AJ were said to be tied at #2, but both significantly behind Cena. Glad to see how popular AJ is as the face running Smackdown Live even though he hasn't been pushed nearly as much as Reigns. AJ Styles has held a world title in WWE for almost 300 more days than Reigns has over the past 2 years. OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 01:42 on May 2, 2018 |
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exploded mummy posted:AJ Styles has held a world title in WWE for almost 300 more days than Reigns has over the past 2 years. How many major shows has he main evented?
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I'm just rooting for them to do whatever thing with Roman hurts their business most. Because between being in Trump's cabinet, naming an inspirational award after one of the most hateful, selfish human beings to ever exist, trying to name a woman's battle royal after a sex trafficker and sucking the oil out of the KSA's dick I just want this whole stupid company to collapse into a singularity. (There is a degree of questionable behavior I am prepared to accept from a wrestling company, but they've gone to plaid)
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ChrisBTY posted:I'm just rooting for them to do whatever thing with Roman hurts their business most. Because between being in Trump's cabinet, naming an inspirational award after one of the most hateful, selfish human beings to ever exist, trying to name a woman's battle royal after a sex trafficker and sucking the oil out of the KSA's dick I just want this whole stupid company to collapse into a singularity. Is it sad I think Linda is the only competent person in the whole Trump administration?
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SalTheBard posted:Is it sad I think Linda is the only competent person in the whole Trump administration? Yes, because you believe there's someone competent in the administration
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SalTheBard posted:Is it sad I think Linda is the only competent person in the whole Trump administration? i mean less sad and more stupid because she is anything but competent
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ChrisBTY posted:I'm just rooting for them to do whatever thing with Roman hurts their business most. Because between being in Trump's cabinet, naming an inspirational award after one of the most hateful, selfish human beings to ever exist, trying to name a woman's battle royal after a sex trafficker and sucking the oil out of the KSA's dick I just want this whole stupid company to collapse into a singularity. Fun Fact: Since Roman's begun getting 'coronated', WWE's stock has almost quadrupled.
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MotU posted:i mean less sad and more stupid because she is anything but competent I'll give Linda McMahon this: If you aren't a wrestling fan, you almost certainly have no idea who she is and have heard 0 about her Given that every other Trump administration person is in the news every other day for sucking the blood from the homeless or accidentally telling the media that they masturbate to fantasies of killing Trump, that's pretty impressive
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Defiance Industries posted:How many major shows has he main evented? summerslam and wrestlemania are the only two major shows
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Yes, because you believe there's someone competent in the administration The fact that I haven't heard about her at all lead me to believe she was doing something right.
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oatgan posted:summerslam and wrestlemania are the only two major shows Money in the Bank and Royal Rumble, dawg
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Fun Fact: Since Roman's begun getting 'coronated', WWE's stock has almost quadrupled. This angers me greatly. The stock part. Less so the Roman part. But I guess if the value of your company keeps going up because of business moves, the actual quality of your product doesn't matter in the slightest. Unless it's something that involves lawsuits and recalls, but WWE isn't that. So there's no reason to 'not' push Roman, since they don't actually have to cater to their audience anymore apparently.
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ChrisBTY posted:This angers me greatly. Their audience is paying more and more to attend shows, which is more of a sign of approval of WWE's product than any chants or boos will ever be.
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its penny stock and given to fluctuations. I believe the latest price raise was because Vince sold off some shares for XFL cash and triggered a computerized bidding war. iffy on the computerized bit.
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ChrisBTY posted:This angers me greatly. It's not even business moves for the most part it is the belief they will get a huge TV deal. Last time their deal came up this was the same belief, the stock got up to new records and then cratered when they got way less than hoped. We'll see if they actually get it this time.
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Defiance Industries posted:Money in the Bank and Royal Rumble, dawg
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rare Magic card l00k posted:Their audience is paying more and more to attend shows, which is more of a sign of approval of WWE's product than any chants or boos will ever be. fewer people are paying more
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May 2, 2018 05:10
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The Raw and SmackDown attendance was down this year till Mania season. The amount of house shows they are running are covering for the down turn Although the Binder led SmackDown shows were way down compared to the Roman ones
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Super No Vacancy posted:fewer people are paying more So? The drop in attendance is lower than the increase in ticket prices, so WWE is making more money. It's a business.
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May 2, 2018 05:27
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Guys this bvc show could be classic impact levels of good. They have been bitching about them on twitter already.
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rare Magic card l00k posted:So? The drop in attendance is lower than the increase in ticket prices, so WWE is making more money. It's a business. I'm not going to argue I know better than WWE, since they're a billion+ dollar company and I'm sure as gently caress not, but a frequent concern noted about the company is that regular audience continues to get older and they don't seem to be able to retain new, younger viewers. Those tend to show up, watch for 2-3 years and then just stop watching entirely, being replaced by people 2-3 years younger who watch for 2-3 years and then also stop entirely. There's legitimate concern about the long term viability of the company if it continues in its current state, especially given how undesirable wrestling audiences are already seen to be by advertisers. 20 years ago the current audience (only larger) was at least in a desirable age demographic even if advertisers still thought wrestling fans were poor, inbred yokels.
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Live attendance matters but the big profit driver is TV and unless something major happens they are going to get an increase and if they go Fox maybe prime time. So even though the main roster product is still cold it doesn't matter at all Of course if by some accident they don't get that TV money welp
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algebra testes posted:Guys this bvc show could be classic impact levels of good. They have been bitching about them on twitter already. Oh poo poo is this the episode where they escape on the bus!?!
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They have to pay to go on Fox because it's a huge privilege. That's why they are saving up money from progressive countries
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algebra testes posted:Guys this bvc show could be classic impact levels of good. They have been bitching about them on twitter already. its the Nitro where the inmates literally run the asylum and there's at least 2 or 3 no-contests, including one because of a runin during a hardcore match Defiance Industries posted:How many major shows has he main evented? since MITB 2016 (which Roman did not main event), AJ headlined MITB 2017, and had the last singles match in the 2017 Royal Rumble before the Rumble which went on last. Roman main evented WM33 (though the push was more on Goldberg/Owens in the actual build) and 34 and was in a 4 way Summer Slam.
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Jerusalem posted:I'm not going to argue I know better than WWE, since they're a billion+ dollar company and I'm sure as gently caress not, but a frequent concern noted about the company is that regular audience continues to get older and they don't seem to be able to retain new, younger viewers. Those tend to show up, watch for 2-3 years and then just stop watching entirely, being replaced by people 2-3 years younger who watch for 2-3 years and then also stop entirely. The WWE controls costs and such that they probably won't implode WCW quick but if TV ratings ever drop drastically they will be in pretty huge trouble (which is why even though the appeal of prime time seems great I'm not sure switching to Fox would be the best idea since switching to TNN last time hit ratings). Plus at somepoint you have to think the constant pushing of Roman would do something to do the ratings
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poo poo, I think he stopped just short of confirming he'll do it, but Bryan almost got convinced to do a review of Battlefield: Earth 
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oatgan posted:2 of the last 3 MITBs were 1) a single brand ppv, and 2) a house show they rescheduled on very little notice into a network special in the middle of a 4 month run where they were doing network specials every two weeks only last year’s MITB was single-branded, and Elimination Chamber was the one flexed from a house show to a PPV with very little notice
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ChrisBTY posted:This angers me greatly. It's one of those things where Romans push is happening at the same time as mass indie hires and huge hype for the future of the company so wwe and others can ignore the real draw and say Roman is the draw.
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This is a classic wrestling thing because it's loving impossible to get good data on who actually draws money so promoters and fans just buy into the mythologizing of the top guy being the draw
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Your Parents posted:It's one of those things where Romans push is happening at the same time as mass indie hires and huge hype for the future of the company so wwe and others can ignore the real draw and say Roman is the draw. See also: hulk hogan
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Is it weird that Roman's "mega push" which is supposedly killing the business involves him not holding the title, main eventing very many shows and losing a lot of his matches
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Is it weird that Roman's "mega push" which is supposedly killing the business involves him not holding the title, main eventing very many shows and losing a lot of his matches Part of the problem is Roman's push being phenomenally poorly executed, yeah
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Is it weird that Roman's "mega push" which is supposedly killing the business involves him not holding the title, main eventing very many shows and losing a lot of his matches You see, Daniel Bryan got over by losing, therefore
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Lid posted:See also: hulk hogan Except not at all.
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