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Kokoro Wish
Jul 23, 2007

Post? What post? Oh wow.
I had nothing to do with THAT.

Cathy Myers is much better than Bryce, btw. Bryce feels as manufactured as the iron he works, while Myers has actually been doing poo poo.

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SurgicalOntologist
Jun 17, 2004

I haven't listened to the particular episode that was linked, but KM, you should legit listen to Citations Needed. Best podcast on the left right now, IMO.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Kokoro Wish posted:

Cathy Myers is much better than Bryce, btw. Bryce feels as manufactured as the iron he works, while Myers has actually been doing poo poo.

Whomever takes the seat from the GOP has my support.

My out of state completely theoretical support.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

RuanGacho posted:

Whomever takes the seat from the GOP has my support.

My out of state completely theoretical support.

You really ought to be more wary of what’s happening here with Bryce in light of the Hoyer revelations.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Office Pig posted:

You really ought to be more wary of what’s happening here with Bryce in light of the Hoyer revelations.

yeah, just the association with the dccc's red to blue program makes him seem shadier to me

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Office Pig posted:

You really ought to be more wary of what’s happening here with Bryce in light of the Hoyer revelations.

Probably, but like he said, he's out-of-state, so meh. I'd be more concerned if he had the same attitude in his own state.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
He's David Brock's guy. David Brock. I'm sorry but there is no way that he's on the level. Either he's attempting to hoodwink Brock or hoodwink the voters, and either way that's bad.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



SurgicalOntologist posted:

I haven't listened to the particular episode that was linked, but KM, you should legit listen to Citations Needed. Best podcast on the left right now, IMO.

I am not a podcast person. I prefer shows like Desus & Mero, The Breakfast club etc. Show Your Work is the only podcast I listen to, it's specifically about women in the entertainment industry and the host Lainey is a woc. How often are poc on the show?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

SurgicalOntologist posted:

I haven't listened to the particular episode that was linked, but KM, you should legit listen to Citations Needed. Best podcast on the left right now, IMO.

Seconding this. Really informative. I also like Michael Brooks a lot, but I get that he's not for everyone. He does have a lot of PoC leftist voices on though, which is really cool.

SurgicalOntologist
Jun 17, 2004

Koalas March posted:

I am not a podcast person. I prefer shows like Desus & Mero, The Breakfast club etc. Show Your Work is the only podcast I listen to, it's specifically about women in the entertainment industry and the host Lainey is a woc. How often are poc on the show?

They have one guest per episode, and I haven't listened to all of them but it seems at least half are POC. To give an idea, these are the titles of three of the first six episodes:
- The rise of superpredator 2.0
- Purging socialists of color from history
- The media's default setting of white supremacy

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



SurgicalOntologist posted:

They have one guest per episode, and I haven't listened to all of them but it seems at least half are POC. To give an idea, these are the titles of three of the first six episodes:
- The rise of superpredator 2.0
- Purging socialists of color from history
- The media's default setting of white supremacy

Ooh, I am intrigued. I'll check it out, thank you :)

Koalas March fucked around with this message at 02:07 on May 3, 2018

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Did someone say fundraising list chat? 'cause let me tell y'all a bit about fundraising lists. The more folk who have access to them, the less they're worth. And boy howdy is the DNC horrid about data access policies!

Lists like those Clinton and Obama maintain contain personal info of some VIPs and other celebrities. You give that away and you're pissing off powerful and influential folks for no personal gain. Nobody likes receiving 20 spam emails for $ from rando no-name Congresscritters, not even JLo. Why give up free stays in the Riviera and Tuscany with folks more famous than you are for no reason?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
....



gently caress

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

My Imaginary GF posted:

Did someone say fundraising list chat? 'cause let me tell y'all a bit about fundraising lists. The more folk who have access to them, the less they're worth. And boy howdy is the DNC horrid about data access policies!

Lists like those Clinton and Obama maintain contain personal info of some VIPs and other celebrities. You give that away and you're pissing off powerful and influential folks for no personal gain. Nobody likes receiving 20 spam emails for $ from rando no-name Congresscritters, not even JLo. Why give up free stays in the Riviera and Tuscany with folks more famous than you are for no reason?

And just like that, the USPOL party is over.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
To whomever is reading this: it’s your fault, all your fault

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

My Imaginary GF posted:

Did someone say fundraising list chat? 'cause let me tell y'all a bit about fundraising lists. The more folk who have access to them, the less they're worth. And boy howdy is the DNC horrid about data access policies!

Lists like those Clinton and Obama maintain contain personal info of some VIPs and other celebrities. You give that away and you're pissing off powerful and influential folks for no personal gain. Nobody likes receiving 20 spam emails for $ from rando no-name Congresscritters, not even JLo. Why give up free stays in the Riviera and Tuscany with folks more famous than you are for no reason?

Where is the infinite screaming Twitter when you need it.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
:bisonyes:

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

joepinetree posted:

People definitely buy and sell lists. But national lists of democratic donors have a very specific set of potential buyers. Absolutely no one other than national democratic organizations would buy Hillary's list, especially in 2017 and 18. This isn't a candidate deciding whether to buy a list from The Nation or from Daily Kos. If Hillary wanted to claim that her list was worth 10 million dollars, nothing would stop her other than changing some numbers on an in kind contribution filing.

It also depends how complete of a dataset is contained. Is it just a contact list of names, addresses, phone numbers, emails, and contribution history? Or does it also include callnotes? Depending upon the completeness of notes, and whether there is profit potential, the data could be worth quite a bit to the right buyer.

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



Koalas March posted:

I am not a podcast person. I prefer shows like Desus & Mero, The Breakfast club etc. Show Your Work is the only podcast I listen to, it's specifically about women in the entertainment industry and the host Lainey is a woc. How often are poc on the show?

While I understand that a lot of people aren't interested in podcasts, allow me to change your mind.

In the practical sense, one can enjoy podcasts/audiobooks/music while doing tedious work. Doing dishes? The drudgery is blunted by podcasts. Cleaning in general? Same deal.Exercising? Exercise your muscles and your mind at the same time. Walking, running, lifting weights. Podcasts.

They're free. Sure there are some that have content behind paywalls, but the vast majority of that content is free to everyone.

They don't need to kowtow to authority. I know that you're into media from what you've said on the forums, but podcasting are a different kind of media. Much of media that is available from traditional sources is overproduced. On top of this, a lot of it is pre-chewed for American audiences as our national education level slips. Most stories are basic and have little nuance to them. New ideas are stale. Also since 9/11 there have been stories that are just lousy not only with a culture of patriotism, but military worship and nationalism. Rights are eroded partially by normalization in the media.If you've ever watched a TV police procedural, especially the high level G-men type stuff, someone whips out some law that tells "criminals" that they actually don't have the rights that the constitution explicitly says that have. Further, at least in the case of citations needed, they present narratives that the media flat out ignores that have excellent reasons that one might support.

No gatekeepers. You can make trash, gold or unpolished gems. You do have to sift through it to find them and quality tends to vary, but word of mouth is strong for podcasts. There's no one in a suit that tells you what you should or shouldn't be making. No one has the power to reject your ideas so long as what you're doing isn't illegal. This means that there are a lot of failed projects and trash out there, but a ton of cutting edge stuff is there too. New ideas are being developed quietly and talent is being developed organically because it's outside of the mainstream. I fully expect that the mainstream is going to begin pulling more heavily from this as a well because there's going to be a large pool of talent that's been developing itself on its own for more than a decade now.

Podcasts are where it's at. Authenticity isn't everything to me, but there isn't much to be found in mainstream entertainment. There's something to be said about what talented amateurs or even professionals can make on their own time.

Ice Phisherman fucked around with this message at 09:36 on May 3, 2018

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


https://twitter.com/IanSams/status/991773652810072066

not mentioned: the ACLU has panned kaine's bill, making them sexist hillary haters too?

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/991413924833742848

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
imagine being so pathetic you think your ticket to mother's inner circle is toadying for a low-rent nobody like tim kaine

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/991794730353741825?s=19

Hell yeah. Let's keep this descent into MAGA CHUD hell going. gently caress my state is collapsing and it rules.

PS,
All the dems running in my district are using mealy mouthed wording of dem policies or straight up republican policies. Lmao at the dog whistles and talk about curbing illegal immigrates from the dem candidates.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Thinking about it getting Kaine into a VP spot and out of the Senate (except as a tie breaker) was a great reason to vote for Clinton.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

I'm an extreme latecomer to podcasts and I used to feel much the same about them as KM, but then I got a job that requires me to do a lot of driving for work, and some repetitive tasks on a regular basis. I quickly burnt out on the radio and even though I listen to Spotify it just wasn't doing it for me.

I don't necessarily make time for them outside of my work stuff but I always make a point to listen to Citations Needed and Chapo, and they've definitely turned me on to the medium in general.

SurgicalOntologist
Jun 17, 2004

Getting into podcasts enabled me to get the dishes done regularly.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Majorian posted:

Probably, but like he said, he's out-of-state, so meh. I'd be more concerned if he had the same attitude in his own state.

Since you have me thinking about it, I have a rather troubling problem related to Democratic Party establishment loving with my representation.

I live in the Washington's 8th congressional district. The long and short of it is that it's been gerrymandered to make it a safe GOP seat in exchange for a safe Dem seat elsewhere. Now I'm staring down going from having Dave Richert, whom is bad to Dino Rossi, Trump lover and regressive monster as my rep in congress.

The blue wave is my only hope.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Ice Phisherman posted:

While I understand that a lot of people aren't interested in podcasts, allow me to change your mind.

In the practical sense, one can enjoy podcasts/audiobooks/music while doing tedious work. Doing dishes? The drudgery is blunted by podcasts. Cleaning in general? Same deal.Exercising? Exercise your muscles and your mind at the same time. Walking, running, lifting weights. Podcasts.

They're free. Sure there are some that have content behind paywalls, but the vast majority of that content is free to everyone.

They don't need to kowtow to authority. I know that you're into media from what you've said on the forums, but podcasting are a different kind of media. Much of media that is available from traditional sources is overproduced. On top of this, a lot of it is pre-chewed for American audiences as our national education level slips. Most stories are basic and have little nuance to them. New ideas are stale. Also since 9/11 there have been stories that are just lousy not only with a culture of patriotism, but military worship and nationalism. Rights are eroded partially by normalization in the media.If you've ever watched a TV police procedural, especially the high level G-men type stuff, someone whips out some law that tells "criminals" that they actually don't have the rights that the constitution explicitly says that have. Further, at least in the case of citations needed, they present narratives that the media flat out ignores that have excellent reasons that one might support.

No gatekeepers. You can make trash, gold or unpolished gems. You do have to sift through it to find them and quality tends to vary, but word of mouth is strong for podcasts. There's no one in a suit that tells you what you should or shouldn't be making. No one has the power to reject your ideas so long as what you're doing isn't illegal. This means that there are a lot of failed projects and trash out there, but a ton of cutting edge stuff is there too. New ideas are being developed quietly and talent is being developed organically because it's outside of the mainstream. I fully expect that the mainstream is going to begin pulling more heavily from this as a well because there's going to be a large pool of talent that's been developing itself on its own for more than a decade now.

Podcasts are where it's at. Authenticity isn't everything to me, but there isn't much to be found in mainstream entertainment. There's something to be said about what talented amateurs or even professionals can make on their own time.

I have produced a few podcasts, but thanks. I prefer music for background drudgery. The problem is many of personalities are awful, a bunch are terribly produced, white as hell or just not covering interesting subjects. Some are all of these things.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Condiv posted:

i skimmed the article, but it doesn't seem to bring up any new issues with him

failed runs is not an issue in of itself, so i'm not sure why that's brought up at all.

that being said, i do agree with myers and others in the article that the national party should keep it's nose out of the primaries and let voters decide upon their representatives. this oligarchy bs is terrible

I find it interesting because I didn’t know any of that and it’s at odds with his media persona. There’s a lot of marketing going on in this race that obscures the reality even to people who live here. Also the child support thing makes me a little bit mad at him.

Basically I’m disappointed that my gut instinct that something was fishy about him was correct. I’m gonna vote for Myers in the primary.

Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 18:13 on May 3, 2018

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/HootHootBerns/status/992005058593218561?s=19
Bill Clinton the most underappreciated villain of American history, film at eleven.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
That’s interesting but actually buried the lede a bit. Ignoring that we don’t know where this comes from, he also says that this hasn’t worked out for Bill, and we know Perez is not a Clinton guy, he’s an Obama guy.

All these insider juicy gossip accounts rely on you taking everyone’s word for it tho, which is lame.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Well I mean it's pretty obvious they didn't want Keith Ellison. Whether Bill personally got involved is not clear but at least the fundamentals of the story check out.

Lprsti99
Apr 7, 2011

Everything's coming up explodey!

Pillbug
If we're talking podcasts, I'm a fan of Opening Arguments. It's definitely

Koalas March posted:

white as hell

but they do a good job of getting into the legal ramifications of current events.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Lightning Knight posted:

I find it interesting because I didn’t know any of that and it’s at odds with his media persona. There’s a lot of marketing going on in this race that obscures the reality even to people who live here. Also the child support thing makes me a little bit mad at him.

Basically I’m disappointed that my gut instinct that something was fishy about him was correct. I’m gonna vote for Myers in the primary.

The child support stuff seems kind of exaggerated (it was only for 2.5 months and not much money, and he ended up paying it off), but Myers still seems better just by virtue of having a more solid background and seeming more ideologically "coherent."

edit: I may have mentioned this before, but my impression of Bryce is that he's the sort of guy who could probably be persuaded to "go with the flow" once in office by his fellow politicians, lobbyists, etc.

The Little Kielbasa
Mar 29, 2001

and another thing: im not mad. please dont put in the newspaper that i got mad.
Podcasts generally suck, but SWOTI is pretty good, largely because Briahna Joy Gray owns.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

The Little Kielbasa posted:

Podcasts generally suck, but SWOTI is pretty good, largely because Briahna Joy Gray owns.

Podcasts are my media lifeblood. I will fight you for my playlist.

Skeptics Guide to the Universe
John Dickerson's Whistlestop
With friends like these
Pod save the people
Dear Hank and John
Hello Internet
Lovett or Leave it
The Anthropocene Reviewed

*no accounting for taste

I'll have to check out SWOTI

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011

The Little Kielbasa posted:

Podcasts generally suck, but SWOTI is pretty good, largely because Briahna Joy Gray owns.

Doesn't pass the white as hell test if Resistance Twitter is to be believed.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

Typical Pubbie posted:

Doesn't pass the white as hell test if Resistance Twitter is to be believed.

Are there podcasts wars occuring in #TheResistance?

Why am I not surprised

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/992101148852178944

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011
I don't know about podcast wars but Gray deals with idiots questioning her identity on a daily basis.

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/HootHootBerns/status/992005058593218561?s=19
Bill Clinton the most underappreciated villain of American history, film at eleven.

lmao the hubris of this pair of backwoods hicks is going to destroy humanity

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