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Peel posted:it seems like labour made minor gains but lost the expectations game? Basically It should be pointed out that the 2014 previous election for these seats were near-historically great for Labour, so improving on that didn't hurt. Expect to see a renewed "Labour = Antisemitism" attack due to disappointing results in Barnet though. There is also going to be a row about Owen Jones orchestrating sending loads of volunteers to areas Labour didn't end up winning. The usual suspects like Jess Phillips are already whining. All in all not as great a night as Labour hoped for but certainly not bad
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hakimashou posted:What's the difference between UKIP and the government? UKIP is openly racist but has no power. The government is less overt, but carries out horribly racist policies that hurt millions.
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hakimashou posted:What's the difference between UKIP and the government? Tories didn't let Nigel Farage be in charge. Well, not directly in charge.
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Peel posted:it seems like labour made minor gains but lost the expectations game?
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MikeCrotch posted:Basically
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namesake posted:Factual reporting would be talking about the end of UKIP but instead we're going to hear about this is another public vote of no confidence in Corbyn and the more aggressive left-wing campaigners like Owen Jones. and then ignoring UKIP basically forever since they're an irrelevance
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Will we finally see an end to the purple stripe in national election coverage where even the DUP reliably gets more MPs than UKIP? Who can say.
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jBrereton posted:Will we finally see an end to the purple stripe in national election coverage where even the DUP reliably gets more MPs than UKIP? Who can say. I have a feeling that even when the entire ukip membership can share the same minibus to a conference the beeb will still find it necessary to interview them all Two birds with one stone really, they will surely find a few members of the taxpayers alliance in there too
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jBrereton posted:Maybe in London Labour did historically well in 2014, the national picture is a completely different kettle of fish. Agreed. It's time for a strong, capable leader. It's the time of Chris Leslie to lead the Labour Party.
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State of parties after 98 of 150 councils: Conservatives: 30 councils; 878 seats (-31) Labour: 50 councils (-1); 1,424 seats (+57) LibDems: 4 councils (+1); 324 seats (+41) Green: 21 seats (+6) UKIP: 2 seats (-44) Independent: 61 seats (-49) Liberal: 1 seat (-1) Ratepayers and Residents: 37 seats (-4) No overall control: 14 councils
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:State of parties after 98 of 150 councils: see, this is how it should be reported gains and losses mean nothing without a hard number 
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labours going to gain on its record gains in 2014 and the media will find a way to get mad at corbyn about it
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:labours going to gain on its record gains in 2014 and the media will find a way to get mad at corbyn about it well you see they didn't gain actual council control in insanely safe tory areas they campaigned in and just won a few seats so obviously thats a loss
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Translating local election results to general election results is about as useful as translating the migratory patterns of seagulls into general election results.
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May 4, 2018 10:23
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This is Vince Fedora's dream outcome, when it can be his party propping up the Tories instead of the DUP.
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jBrereton posted:They has been basically no change in seats for anyone other than UKIP. For Labour, over the about 2500 seats reported so far they have gained about 40 from their pretty low 2014 numbers. The Tories are in about the same place (currently -2), Lib Dems have picked up quite a few in relative terms (up about as many seats as Labour), but 2014 was extremely bad for them. What are you on about? Labour's local election results were like the second best in party history or something, they gained 324 seats in that election: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_local_elections,_2014
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MikeCrotch posted:What are you on about? Labour's local election results were like the second best in party history or something, they gained 324 seats in that election: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_local_elections,_2014
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sighing wistfully and lookin at that r e d d map of 1995 GET HIM OUT OF HERE
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not sure what's funnier, the Zionist Hitler theory or the fact that it makes nazis mad
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lmao the lib dems wish they were ever that popular
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Yinlock posted:lmao the lib dems wish they were ever that popular
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jBrereton posted:They had 62 seats under Kennedy, 57 under Clegg and formed part of the government for five years. I mean that happened within the last decade. just let me have this
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MikeCrotch posted:Expect to see a renewed "Labour = Antisemitism" attack due to disappointing results in Barnet though. https://twitter.com/estwebber/status/992367185296322560
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Lawman 0 posted:I still don't understand the charge Ken Livingstone is still a Labour member (fair but he is still under investigation and can't stay in much longer), so is Jackie Walker (unfair) and Corbyn is supportive of justice for Palestine rather than continued Israeli oppression (obviously unfair). Everything else is lovely societal level bigotry which Labour deals with better than the other parties.
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Im all the Tories suspended for racism in the lead up to this election the press barely reported on
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Jose posted:Im all the Tories suspended for racism in the lead up to this election the press barely reported on Conservatives gain Pendle after readmitting councillor Pendle was under no overall control, with the Conservatives on 24 and Labour on 15. However, the Tories have now managed to take Pendle by one seat after reinstating Councillor Rosemary Carroll who had been suspended for retweeting a racist joke. http://twitter.com/BritishGovWatch/status/881227667776966657 This is bad news...for Corbyn!
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lol people are still going to be very mad at corbyn though 
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:lol people are still going to be very mad at corbyn though no idea what you're talking about https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/992514681280585730
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Gum posted:no idea what you're talking about lmao
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Gum posted:no idea what you're talking about Lol they don't have the balls to do another leadership challenge
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An important birthday. https://twitter.com/Classic_picx/status/992713423380238337
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Interesting that Jeremy Corbyn would publicly celebrate the birth of a baby royal but not Charlie M.
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Jose posted:Im all the Tories suspended for racism in the lead up to this election the press barely reported on I'm all the Tory councillors who got reinstated because they won
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jBrereton posted:Boundary Changes be damned I could have sworn they did worse than in 2012 in 2014, without going into the yuge local election victories of the 1990s I mean the 2014 local elections are like the poster child for "PAST LOCAL ELECTIONS ARE NOT INDICATORS OF FUTURE GE PERFORMANCE"
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