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I guess it seems to be a slow regression from where there were previously chutes of hope (mass demonstrations, recall drive, elections on the horizon). It seemed impossible to get to the point where are we now, which seems to be Maduro reelected in a sham and continuity of his regime, without some sort of upheaval. Seems like we might be on a slow march to forming a new North Korea/Cuba in terms of the populace just being completely cut off from reality and stuck in a country that is just frozen in time.
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Arkane posted:I guess it seems to be a slow regression from where there were previously chutes of hope (mass demonstrations, recall drive, elections on the horizon). It seemed impossible to get to the point where are we now, which seems to be Maduro reelected in a sham and continuity of his regime, without some sort of upheaval. Cuba’s government supplies food, water, homes, and security to all of its people, along with basic medical care and education. Venezuela’s government supplies food and water to under half of its population, and security and health care to zero people. I imagine education isn’t doing so hot now either and I doubt any homes have been constructed in 5 years. Even Cuba’s Special Period (what they call their economic collapse when the USSR collapsed and stopped sending subsidies or buying expensice Cuban sugar) was nowhere nearly as bad as the current situation in Venezuela. There’s a good first hand account of an American reporter living freely in Cuba during the special period, called "Trading with the Enemy" which I highly recommend to anyone who’s curious about those events by the way.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I also don't recall North Korea explicitly refusing offers of food aid. I honestly think venezuela is worse than north korea nowadays. With venezuela, all the rot and ruin is broadcast for the world to see on social media as the government pretends everything is fine and a kleptocracy reigns. At least North korea does not air a 24/7 channel of the depth of cruelty man is capable of. Everyone sees the awful state of food and medical supplies in venezuela, but the government bars any aid to their people due to the PSUV's overinflated ego.
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Pharohman777 posted:I honestly think venezuela is worse than north korea nowadays. Nah. Venezuela's really loving bad, and definitely the more chaotic of the two these days, but at least people are still able to leave without being afraid of being killed trying to escape, or that their families will be persecuted even if they do succeed.
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Anyone seen this happen IRL at all ? BsF amounts easier to weigh than count ? https://imgur.com/gallery/IZtUmQZ I guess this is a sign you are in the realm of "It's more useful as wallpaper than money" hyperinflation  .
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The venezuelan government must be pisssssed. After all, the surrounding countries have a humanitarian crisis on their hands, caused by the flood of venezuelans fleeing the country. Emergency aid, and assistance are streaming into the affected countries as well. But the venezuelan government forbids any humanitarian aid or donation, stuff that the venezuelans who fled with nothing left to lose have a possibility of getting. Venezuelans are fleeing their own government, and are obtaining aid that was forbidden to them by that government. https://cruxnow.com/global-church/2018/04/17/u-s-promises-16-million-to-aid-venezuelan-refugees/ This was just last month, in mid april quote:The $16 million in funding from the State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development includes a contribution to the United Nations’ regional refugee response and humanitarian organizations working in the region.
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Hi guys, I haven't posted in D&D much lately. In fact, I think I've made a grand total of about 5 posts in the last 6 years. Mostly I posted in The Dorkroom for a while, then for the last 3-4 years it's mostly been SHSC and occasionally YOSPOS. But Arkane remembered me though, and he PM'd me to gloat about how far down the shitter Venezuela has gone. I think we all need to give him a round of applause for how lovely Venezuela has gotten and how good that makes him feel. I hope this isn't too soon, but I think we may need to reconsider whether Fishmech is really America's Smartest Boy anymore, I think we have a new contender. You were right buddy, the modern state of affairs is a truly great validation of your philosophies. As the president says, globalism rules and protectionism drools, and one might even say Venezuela is  I assume he probably PM'd other people to gloat about how lovely life is in Venezuela too? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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At this point if Venezuela charged copyright for every time it's used as ammunition for a political argument from one side or the other, Diosdado would be three times as rich!
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Out of curiosity, are you Venezuelan, Paul? It seems lovely to gloat to a regular Venezuelan citizen "ha ha, your country has been loving destroyed by its own hand" even if they voted for Chavez post-2002. On the other hand, it pisses me off to no end to see assholes like Sean Penn and
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Saladman posted:Out of curiosity, are you Venezuelan, Paul? It seems lovely to gloat to a regular Venezuelan citizen "ha ha, your country has been loving destroyed by its own hand" even if they voted for Chavez post-2002. Some people says Brazil specially has a moral obligation to help venezuelans refugees because our past government supported Maduro (and were still supporting him when Dilma fell). I tend to agree
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Uhhhh  https://mobile.twitter.com/alegw/status/991632173038960642 The government must have a bandwidth shortage as well, if they are threatening to investigate if you refresh too much.  edit: I think 4chans /pol/ board found the tweet https://twitter.com/KalebPrime/status/991756696384167936 https://twitter.com/TehSViN/status/991763877204545536 Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 13:00 on May 3, 2018 |
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Saladman posted:Out of curiosity, are you Venezuelan, Paul? It seems lovely to gloat to a regular Venezuelan citizen "ha ha, your country has been loving destroyed by its own hand" even if they voted for Chavez post-2002. I follow this thread but don't post since nobody cares what europeans have to say about south american politics. I'll just point out that the UK government, having spent eight years arming the PSUV in the hope of another Pinochet, are understandably not in a position to rub anyone's nose in anything.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Hi guys, I was re-reading the old Venezuela thread ("dead Chavez edition") about Chavez's election just prior to his death, and one of the first posters was a Venezuelan who had fled the country and still had relatives behind. "Hugoon Chavez" explained in great detail why this was bad news. He was beaten up on by myriad posters in the thread, including yourself, and I noticed a recurring theme where those people who called him out never posted in this thread -- I searched again and again for posters who were enthusiastically supporting Chavez and NONE of them posted in this thread (with the exception of Borneo Jim). As someone said above, the defenders went silent. So I decided to PM one that had PMs turned on (you were that person) to try and find out what their thought process was, and the PM I sent you was as follows: "I was re-reading an old Venezuelan thread about the re-election of Hugo Chavez, and one of the immediate responses came from a Venezuelan who said this was very bad news. You took issue with his characterization, and were quite vociferous in your defense of the direction of the country under Chavez. I noticed you don't have any posts in the past few years on Venezuela. Have you reassessed your views on the country?" Pretty simple query trying to extract how new information impacts "true believers." So, what are your thoughts on the current state of the country? You haven't responded besides correctly assessing that the country is lovely. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Arkane posted:I was re-reading the old Venezuela thread ("dead Chavez edition") about Chavez's election just prior to his death, and one of the first posters was a Venezuelan who had fled the country and still had relatives behind. "Hugoon Chavez" explained in great detail why this was bad news. He was beaten up on by myriad posters in the thread, including yourself, and I noticed a recurring theme where those people who called him out never posted in this thread -- I searched again and again for posters who were enthusiastically supporting Chavez and NONE of them posted in this thread (with the exception of Borneo Jim). As someone said above, the defenders went silent. Do you mind linking to the Hugoon Chavez post in question?
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Yeah it's here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3510719&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=4#post408315972quote:Hey dudes in d&d! I don't hang around here much, but here's my two cents as someone born and raised in Venezuela, now living in Spain!
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Paul MaudDib posted:Hi guys, You sound really stupid fyi.
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Wow I remember reading those first posts from the old thread back when I was just a lurker. How clueless and stupid those people were back then. I feel sorry for Hugoon Chavez for having to put up with all that bullshit and even get probated for saying his point of view.
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Arkane posted:I was re-reading the old Venezuela thread ("dead Chavez edition") about Chavez's election just prior to his death, and one of the first posters was a Venezuelan who had fled the country and still had relatives behind. "Hugoon Chavez" explained in great detail why this was bad news. He was beaten up on by myriad posters in the thread, including yourself, and I noticed a recurring theme where those people who called him out never posted in this thread -- I searched again and again for posters who were enthusiastically supporting Chavez and NONE of them posted in this thread (with the exception of Borneo Jim). As someone said above, the defenders went silent. Hasn't it been well established that you're...uh, how does one say this...loving terrible? And that you're Jon Huntsman IRL? Paul MaudDib posted:Hi guys, This is one of the clearest cases of "nice meltdown" I've ever seen.
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Hasn't it been well established that you're...uh, how does one say this...loving terrible?
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Cicero posted:It can simultaneously be true that he's terrible and that the dumbass lefty Chavez apologists that D&D used to have in spades in the Venezuela thread are also terrible. The stories I hear from my Venezuelan employees are sickening and anyone who spent time supporting the regime over the last few years needs to have his or her head examined.
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People can contain multitudes. You can be lovely on one issue and good on another and vice versa. But in general talking about Venezuela abroad has always been a story of foreigners playing political football with both sides kicking the issues, triumphs, and problems around to score domestic points. The reality of ‘things have gotten really lovely’ is accepted by all, and there is very little I can do about it for my Venezuelan and Columbian friends except to try and help them send some $$ to relatives still in the country. On the bright side, Maduro has been a really strong force for equality in Venezuela - now no one has access to water, electricity, or medicine ! Finally equal.
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Two days ago, agents with the General Directorate of Military Counterintelligence (DGCIM) arrested 11 executives from Banesco, the nation's largest private bank. It wasn't clear at first if the executives had been arrested or were just merely detained for questioning, but the arrests were confirmed yesterday morning by attorney general Tarek William Saab. A journalist named Maria Alesia Sosa tweeted an image showing the DGCIM officers (two of them are masked) in a boardroom with the executives at the time of the arrest: https://twitter.com/MariaAlesiaSosa/status/992077061744455680 Attorney general Saab held a press conference yesterday in which he assured Venezuelans that they should not fear a government takeover of the bank, because the arrests were "very surgical". Just a couple of hours after that press conference, the regime announced that it was taking over the bank for an initial period of 90 days. As you can imagine, there's quite a bit of panic in Venezuela today. Banesco has something like 6 million clients, and the fact that the government is now running the bank is disastrous news for all of them. The arrests and the bank's takeover are connected to a security sweep called Operacion Manos de Papel [Operation Paper Hands] that has been in effect for a few weeks now. The operation appears to be targeting individuals and organizations who are suspected of engaging and/or facilitating black market currency transactions and other illicit economic activities. One of the noteworthy points about this is the involvement of the DGCIM. The organization is part of the military, and as the name suggests it deals with counterintelligence; this means detecting, tracking and neutralizing spies, for example. It's not clear at this moment why the DGCIM is involved in what appears to be a financial operation, but I suspect that the people who get arrested as part of Operation Paper Hands will be charged with pretty serious crimes like treason, with the regime arguing that their economic activities were doing direct harm to the country. wateroverfire posted:The stories I hear from my Venezuelan employees are sickening and anyone who spent time supporting the regime over the last few years needs to have his or her head examined. The thing that's always bugged me is how quickly people (specially people who aren't Venezuelan/don't have family in Venezuela) are willing to point to the situation in the country and exploit it for their own political pet project. You see this on both sides, with leftists abroad defending Maduro and Chavez because they think they're on the same side, and with people on the right pointing to Venezuela and yelling "Communism kills!!!" to get their local fascist party in power. These types of takes are usually comically wrong because they de-contextualize the crisis, and they make light of the suffering of the people whom it impacts.
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Chuck Boone posted:As you can imagine, there's quite a bit of panic in Venezuela today. Banesco has something like 6 million clients, and the fact that the government is now running the bank is disastrous news for all of them. It's also worth noting Banesco is the easiest bank to send remittances through. All the 'underground' money exchange services use Banesco because it was generally the most reliable bank to send large quantities of money through. I'm a bit concerned about how this is going to shake out because it might make sending money home much more difficult. I'm sure there'll be workarounds, but my guess is the government finally took notice how much money is flowing in from remittances and they decided they should be the ones handling all that cash.
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wateroverfire posted:The stories I hear from my Venezuelan employees are sickening and anyone who spent time supporting the regime over the last few years needs to have his or her head examined. u have to consider the possibility that Venezuela is actually doing great and your employees were only badmouthing the current government as a means of ingratiating themselves to capital
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Arkane posted:"I was re-reading an old Venezuelan thread about the re-election of Hugo Chavez, and one of the immediate responses came from a Venezuelan who said this was very bad news. You took issue with his characterization, and were quite vociferous in your defense of the direction of the country under Chavez. I noticed you don't have any posts in the past few years on Venezuela. Have you reassessed your views on the country?" Yeah, unless Arkane here is lying about what they actually wrote, that doesn't sound at all like gloating, and Paul MaudDib's post is deflection. Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Hasn't it been well established that you're...uh, how does one say this...loving terrible? I don't know Arkane at all, but goons have a tendency to go fishing for "terribleness", treating innocuous statements as shibboleths for disgusting worldviews, so I tend to take the "well established terrible poster" thing with a grain of salt.
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ryde posted:I don't know Arkane at all, but goons have a tendency to go fishing for "terribleness", treating innocuous statements as shibboleths for disgusting worldviews, so I tend to take the "well established terrible poster" thing with a grain of salt. He has some really bad posts in the climate change thread but nothing exceptional (i.e. cherry picking arguments, taking quotes totally out of context). He's just on the opposite side of the majority, saying that climate change is not as big of a deal as people make it out to be. I mean I think it's dumb too but it's not like he's a garbage poster like Borneo Jimmy or Homework Explainer. Also yeah that message was definitely not gloating and fairly reasonable to send given the context of the explanation although it could feel weird to receive without the explanation (i.e. first impression could be "has this loving dude been tracking me for years and remembered my username and was just waiting to pounce on me?"). On topic: Holy poo poo on Banesco being taken over. I don't know why the gently caress anyone with money in liquid assets would not have bailed on Venezuela about 2 years ago. Too bad that other Venezuelan poster (Blue Nation?) can't turn his cows and land into enough money to make it worthwhile to escape. I imagine they'll be coming for anyone who owns anything soon enough. I am unfortunately kind of expecting to hear that his land was confiscated and his cows and crops taken for The People in the next couple years and compensated either not at all, or at the government exchange rate (i.e. not at all).
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Labradoodle posted:It's also worth noting Banesco is the easiest bank to send remittances through. All the 'underground' money exchange services use Banesco because it was generally the most reliable bank to send large quantities of money through. I'm a bit concerned about how this is going to shake out because it might make sending money home much more difficult. I'm sure there'll be workarounds, but my guess is the government finally took notice how much money is flowing in from remittances and they decided they should be the ones handling all that cash. Wow great, this is going to gently caress over a lot of people I know. Maduro manages to keep making things worse and worse. Literally find out about this the same day I posted about helping my friends relatives by sending remittances... everything about Venezuela continues to be the darkest of comedy.
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Flavahbeast posted:u have to consider the possibility that Venezuela is actually doing great and your employees were only badmouthing the current government as a means of ingratiating themselves to capital Sure they are. 
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Arkane posted:"I was re-reading an old Venezuelan thread about the re-election of Hugo Chavez, and one of the immediate responses came from a Venezuelan who said this was very bad news. You took issue with his characterization, and were quite vociferous in your defense of the direction of the country under Chavez. I noticed you don't have any posts in the past few years on Venezuela. Have you reassessed your views on the country?" What I mostly took issue with was the anti-democratic nature of the thread. The elections were free and fair back then, as judged by experienced international observers like Jimmy Carter. What we were seeing back then was a lot of complaints and grandstanding from wealthy, english-speaking Venezuelans (by the nature of this being an english-speaking forum) because they didn't like the results of those elections. In a lot of ways, I think what happened in Venezuela is the opposite of what happened in the US. Trumpism is largely Chavismo for white people, in terms of policy - highly nationalistic and protectionistic. Right down to the boob jobs, vaginoplasties, and anal bleaches, in fact - let's bang some porn stars, grab 'em by the pussy! It just happens that the US is a lot better place to enforce that policy on the rest of the world, and subject to a lot less international criticism as a result. I haven't paid particular attention to Venezuela in probably 5 years so I wouldn't care to go into details, other than it going obviously poorly for Venezula, being a country that has consistently bucked US foreign policy for the last 10 years, and having made a shitload of their own independently poor decisions. Some of their actions as of 5 years ago were fine (nationalizing infrastructure, etc) but it sounds like things have continued to decay. In general I don't see any problem with nationalization. States and nations have the right to determine what their strategic interests are. Alaska writes every citizen a check from the oil fund, Texas has a state non-profit managing their state-independent power grid, the US extracts mineral exploitation fees and maintains control on companies/industries it determines to be of national significance, and so on. There is tons of technology we simply don't sell to foreigners. Venezuela has the right to do the same. Subsidizing domestic oil consumption might be a lovely policy but it's one that people voted for and politicians enacted. The US is acting in the same perceived pursuits of its national interests, and it will probably pay a price for the aggressive pursuit of that policy. A shade less aggressive and it might have worked for both the US and Venezuela, but strongmen gonna strongmen. In general, social policy in the 21st century will be something that has to be grappled with worldwide. We can do a lot more work with a lot less people now: thanks computers, thanks robots. All of the income is going to an increasingly narrow portion of society. To avoid mass unrest, social policy is going to have to be a lot more liberal. That or we can take the conservative path and just starve/disease/murder/incarcerate/fight wars with people until the number is more manageable. That is the whole point of austerity after all - which the IMF has backed off in the last 5 years as being wildly incorrect and antisocial. And in general, both elections exposed the cracks in democracy. Masses of people are pretty dumb and easily manipulated. It's unclear how to maintain an effective technocracy (as society has effectively been for hundreds of years) in the face of 24-hour news media, particularly when many state actors or significant private actors may be hostile to their publics. Citizens United threw us down to the same level as Venezuela. Responding to that (as Venezuela did) is not necessarily incorrect, I think Venezuelan society was just in a lot less stable in an international sense. It's a lot easier for a country to become destabilized when it's not the global reserve currency with a larger military than the rest of the world combined. But I think that's starting to change for the US... either we'll have to enforce that militarily, or Europe and the Near East are going to respond over the next 10-20 years and significantly decrease American hegemony with a more "global" consensus - meaning "more them, less us". Which is not a good thing for global stability - these days I now believe American hegemony does generally stabilize the globe even if it does benefit us. We have a pissbaby president who is too senile to respond to any significant events in anything more than a reflexual fashion. He is literally unable to formulate a coherent policy other than "the thing that the last person to talk to him told him"... he can't even remember the Republican policy on gun control, after he talked to Democrats he was fully in favor of gun control, and opposition to gun control is the most basic Republican tenant. 2 months later, he can't even remember the Republican policy on immigration, after he talked to Democrats he was fully in favor of DACA, and opposition to DACA is the most basic Republican tenant. Again: after those events he made public statements in favor and then had to have a handler tell him what to think, because his brain is full of amyloid plaques. He is very obviously going into advanced Alzheimer's disease and is going to be massively impaired in only 2-3 years let alone 6-8 if he were re-elected. Foreign actors are already taking advantage of that. Netanyahu, Hollande, and Putin are all making very obvious overtures to his senile "deal-making" brain, and the media has remarked as such on numerous occasions. Merkel just obviously can't stand him, and Theresa May just obviously wants nothing to do with him. The Middle East is destabilized, Russia is moving in, Iran and Saudi Arabia are playing for Qatar and Syria on the international stage. Fortunately the Far East has decided we're loving nuts and tried to stabilize themselves... which probably means moving more into the Chinese sphere of influence long-term. The unspoken bottom line here is that the US is in decline and China is on the rise... but Xi Jinping is also consolidating his power (see: eliminating term limits so he can keep winning fake elections). I have an internet friend from Taiwan who recently bailed to the US and I'm guessing that may have been one of the reasons for his parents to move them (to "open a restaraunt"). Europe is still playing Articles of Confederation and is falling apart without a strong Federal government, and member states are dropping out. Russia is the wildcard nation who retains a strong military capability and can play a pretty strong hand in proxy conflicts or limited engagements, but would still fall apart in a sustained conflict... if we would actually stick sanctions or direct action to them. Hope that clarifies my world view for you. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 08:44 on May 5, 2018 |
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Furia posted:The “Have you considered that you are a burgeois and your informed opinion doesn’t matter?” line never fails to amuse me Your opinion matters, you just lost the election. That's how democracy works. If it makes you feel better, right now "my informed opinion" doesn't matter either.
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Negrostrike posted:Wow I remember reading those first posts from the old thread back when I was just a lurker. How clueless and stupid those people were back then. I feel sorry for Hugoon Chavez for having to put up with all that bullshit and even get probated for saying his point of view. Haha, yeah I bailed the gently caress out of that thread. I was just trying to make Chavez supporters aware of how much information they were lacking and how low and inhumane it was to exalt someone that was creating such a hellish dystopia just because he seemed to outwardly align with their ideals. But nah obviously I knew nothing and I was just a right wing tool. Oh look at that seems the dude that had lived in the country his entire life knew more about the situation than a bunch of tankies. Huh.
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I never came to this thread before thé AN opposition victory but I just read a few of those posts and it’s like a case study in moving goalposts. Hugoon we don’t believe you because you’re a rich expat who grew up in a wealthy English speaking home in Caracas. Oh you weren’t wealthy? Well you’re still a rich expat. Oh you’re not rich? Well you’re still a bougie expat. Oh there are other posters still living in Venezuela? Yeah but they all write with near perfect English so they just be rich. Oh they’re not rich? Well they have a good level of English instruction. That’s thanks to Chavez  QED
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Ah I remember that, now. Dudes calling me rich because I dared speak against their socialist angel Papa Chavez. loving lol. My family was extremely close to be homeless at one point during my teens and these armchair socialists accusing me of that was just too much to handle. Hugoon Chavez fucked around with this message at 14:20 on May 5, 2018 |
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Hugoon Chavez posted:Ah I remember that, now. Dudes calling me rich because I dared speak against their socialist angel Papa Chavez. No, you see – you couldn't possibly be poor. Poor people in third-world countries couldn't possibly learn English, so your family must've clearly been wealthy landowners with ties to the right-wing opposition, so naturally your opinion (and mine) doesn't matter. All jokes aside, you don't see a lot of Venezuelans here because of the paywall. I was obsessed with the forums when I was a kid because it seemed like such a cool place, so the first thing I did when I got a credit card was purchase a membership. Back then we could use $300 per year for online purchases, I think, and I happily spent my first $10 here.
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