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Aphrodite posted:JR with the astoundingly bad take on the GRR and the women getting paid. I mean I get what he's trying to say but not being booked on Mania because you just don't have a match is way different than not being booked on a show because the country doesn't respect your gender. At the very least the womens champions and their challengers should have been paid as if they competed.
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NJPW doesn’t hire women *loving loser nerds push their glasses up* Well akshually REEEEEEEEE Get over it, they should be blasted for it, for gently caress sakes lmao
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May 6, 2018 16:06
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NJPW hiring women wrestlers wouldn't really do much but raid the Joshi feds of their top stars, which I feel would be more of a blow than a boon to woman's wrestling.
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May 6, 2018 16:25
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Since Joshi wrestlers seem like they’re basically wrestleman idols, do they have the same kind of “if you get caught so much as looking at a guy with longing, let alone loving or dating him, your entire career ends and you are publicly shamed” thing hanging over their heads?
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May 6, 2018 16:32
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New Japan hiring women for a token match would be the dumbest thing ever. And they’re not going to go 50/50 or intergender. Japan has a thriving joshi scene with a rich tradition. It gets smaller crowds than men’s wrestling but that’s also true of football and any other sport where the women’s version is younger than the men’s.
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May 6, 2018 16:34
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So women getting more exposure and more money is a bad thing because other promotions will have to either pay better or fail is a good enough reason for the NJPW to not hire women, cool
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May 6, 2018 16:35
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Nerds will defend japan to death for being racist/xenophobic and sexist I’ll never get it
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May 6, 2018 16:37
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Do it ironically posted:NJPW doesn’t hire women id be all for more supercards where they bring in some talent from other promotions but i dont think NJPW hiring women would really help anyone. its not like the US where women-only feds are either jokes or dont exist, women-only promotions are successful, have a long history, and at certain points have been the hottest thing going in japanese wrestling, period. its kind of insulting to all of that to go 'the MEN need to step in and hire them so they can get out of the dingy little 50 seaters and be promoted.' also cool use of the pepe meme
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May 6, 2018 16:37
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Do it ironically posted:So women getting more exposure and more money is a bad thing
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May 6, 2018 16:38
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I’ve never heard of a single women’s wrestling Fed in Japan or seen a match, but I know of NJPW and have watched matches before I highly doubt your typical international wrestling fan could either, but if they were on say, the largest Japanese wrestling company for international exposure they would be able to And that nothing but a great thing for Japanese women’s wrestlers
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May 6, 2018 16:43
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Do it ironically posted:I’ve never heard of a single women’s wrestling Fed in Japan or seen a match
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May 6, 2018 16:44
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Yeah I guess not speaking or reading Japanese or having much access to it makes me someone who doesn’t care about women’s rights and progress  NJPW wrestling fans everyone (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 6, 2018 16:46
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oh cool more brokebrained takes about women's wrestling in Japan, that makes 800 in the last month If you actually, genuinely, want to seek out Japanese women's wrestling it takes less than a minute on Google in this day and age, friend. If you're doing this because WWE's honor must be defended then good news nobody can stop you from enjoying the product and there is no need for this trash
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May 6, 2018 16:47
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Do it ironically posted:NJPW wrestling fans everyone and you don't have to sit down and watch every joshi match ever but you could at least google 'joshi' and watch a couple of the seventeen toyota/kong matches meltzer gave five stars to before you sit down and type some hot takes. like it's not that hard to get some kind of working knowledge before you start accusing people of sexism.
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May 6, 2018 16:48
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It’s almost as if, if there was an internationally recognized Japanese company with the means to reach me here in Canada, they could hire women so I could see the awesome talent they have to show Wonder if that company exists
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May 6, 2018 16:49
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There is nothing but benefits for Japanese women wrestlers if NJPW stopped being sexist and hired women
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May 6, 2018 16:52
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Do it ironically posted:It’s almost as if, if there was an internationally recognized Japanese company with the means to reach me here in Canada, they could hire women so I could see the awesome talent they have to show It's called Stardom and they have a working relationship with ROH just like New Japan.
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good news op, several joshi promotions have streaming setups i mean stardom's website looks like an angelfire site from 2001 but lbr most japanese websites look like that. they also have english subtitles.
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May 6, 2018 16:53
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Pictured below, an event that didn't happen, as women couldn't possibly fill the Tokyo Dome on their own. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSiyxLzhd3o&t=12757s
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May 6, 2018 17:01
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Do it ironically posted:It’s almost as if, if there was an internationally recognized Japanese company with the means to reach me here in Canada, they could hire women so I could see the awesome talent they have to show It's called Stardom.
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May 6, 2018 17:08
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Mate you have the internet and Stardom have their own version of NJPWorld for 750 Yen. Go nuts. http://www.stardom-world.com/ Genuinely keeping the women and men on separate shows works out best for them because instead of fighting for two matches on a male dominated card the women have entire shows dedicated to their matches and because it isn't treated as a side show to the men the women end up far better trained as a result. In it's peak in the 90's AJW was drawing big crowds in the Tokyo Dome.
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May 6, 2018 17:08
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Oh ok so I just need to pay for a sub for two different companies because I want to see the top men and also the top women of Japan, makes sense, not like the top men’s promotion could change their discriminatory practises, and have women as well so I could just see them all for one sub That’d be silly (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 6, 2018 17:14
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yes, if you want to see the women, you have to pay to support the women
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May 6, 2018 17:15
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Also I doubt very much New Japan wants to do the sort of talent raids they'd need to start a Joshi promotion. Both cause it looks real bad in Japan (it's why Ishimori had to do a stint in Impact before going to New Japan) and they also don't want to put other companies out of business too. All for what, maybe one or two multi-man matches and maybe 1 or 2 major singles? That ends up taking well paying spots from other wrestlers than making more jobs. I could maybe see them adding a Joshi feature match or two to a US show which would be nice but no need for them to run an entire division when you have feds like Stardom doing a good job already
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imo they should put smaller feds out of business, making it harder for women wrestlers to find jobs and build up their careers, so i can save six bucks a month
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It's no just a username, is it?
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May 6, 2018 17:18
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Do it ironically posted:Oh ok so I just need to pay for a sub for two different companies because I want to see the top men and also the top women of Japan, makes sense, not like the top men’s promotion could change their discriminatory practises, and have women as well so I could just see them all for one sub You rather save a few bucks and watch NJPW with one or two women's matches on a show? Don't you think having two subs and getting the best of both is worth it?
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Endorph posted:imo they should put smaller feds out of business, making it harder for women wrestlers to find jobs and build up their careers, so i can save six bucks a month People so used to WWE's business model they think everyone should do it (ignoring what it's done to wrestlers overall quality of life and ability to earn money)
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"Let's get rid of the US Women's National Team and have the 3 best players on the sub bench for the men. Equality!"
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To be fair with the WOH (ROH)/STARDOM partnership, while its still somewhat unknown about their status, their partnership may not last much longer. Rossy was spotted talking with WWE officials over Wrestlemania weekend, including being backstage at several major events like Wrestlemania and the Hall of Fame (along with a bunch of tweets praising WWE for Axcess). And if he wants to break off the partnership with WOH to pursue an EVOLVE/PROGRESS like partnership with WWE, more power to him. Women of Honor loving sucks in pretty much every conceivable way and the way they've handled the STARDOM talent is an absolute tragedy. It's also worth noting that apparently Cody may have gotten shot down last night as he was at the STARDOM show, and it was rumored for a bit that he was trying to get some STARDOM talent to join the ALL IN show. But STARDOM's English twitter account sent out a tweet saying there would be none of their talent at ALL IN, because STARDOM already has a show that day. Although I think part of the reason has to do with the fact that Tessa is a focal point of ALL IN, and like 95% of the STARDOM roster/staff hates her.
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dude you are just as out to lunch as the ironic concern troll if you think cody was sitting next to ogawa to cut a deal to have stardom women on all in lmao
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Super No Vacancy posted:dude you are just as out to lunch as the ironic concern troll if you think cody was sitting next to ogawa to cut a deal to have stardom women on all in lmao Considering Brandi was/is a part of Oedo Tai, it wouldn't be unreasonable. And Cody probably was out to cut a deal to get someone like Io or Mayu. It's not really a concern troll if its something that is easily believable.
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May 6, 2018 17:43
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actually there is a streaming service that features both the top men and women of japan, it's called honor club. thanks and god bless
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anti-gedo perverts you are welcome to repurpose this joke to make it about the DDT service which actually streamed a great joshi show for free like three days ago but yeah wow why doesn't new japan hire a tutor to come to my house and teach me thing loving 1 about the thing i claim to care about
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Wow Rossy you two timer seen talking to both WWE and Cody
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Do it ironically posted:Yeah I guess not speaking or reading Japanese or having much access to it makes me someone who doesn’t care about women’s rights and progress Stardom is actually easier to follow than NJPW if you don't speak or read Japanese just in case you actually care. They translate everything before uploading it and their site looks poo poo but is in actual English and not translated by robots. bloodysabbath posted:Since Joshi wrestlers seem like they’re basically wrestleman idols, do they have the same kind of “if you get caught so much as looking at a guy with longing, let alone loving or dating him, your entire career ends and you are publicly shamed” thing hanging over their heads? Tokyo Joshi Pro supposedly have this, but a lot of it seems to be parodying idol culture so I don't know if DDT are actually being serious with that part. I'd say not, but someone may correct me. One of the current storylines is one of wrestlers having a crush on a girl and saying she's allowed to date her because the rules says she can't have a boyfriend so I doubt it serious. Outside that, quite a lot of joshi end up dating male pro wrestlers afaik. Io Shirai was with Nosawa Rongai when they got framed for smuggling weed into Japan.
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itoh keeps making jokes on twitter about buying or wanting a boyfriend so no i think that's just the idol gimmick
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Pretty sure most joshi if they have boyfriends keep it very secret because holy poo poo their fans shower them with gifts. Io has posted pictures on her blog of numerous gifts she's gotten, and some range from small things like snacks to incredibly expensive things like a macbook ( ), and other various electronics/clothes/jewelry. It helps that the majority of their income comes from those fans as well. Them having a boyfriend would be seen as a kiss of death for their career most likely. Because autograph sessions, photographs, handshakes, etc are all items they tend to charge for. It was discussed in the women's wrestling thread, but Io charged a king's ransom for her newest photobook, which probably wouldn't have sold as well if people learned she had a boyfriend/husband/fiancee.
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Lovin' these twitter posts from all my favorite wrestle stars
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