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Soviet Commubot posted:I think the implication is that you should't stop having kids until you hit menopause. Isn't this that fundie sect that was on TLC a few years back? Arrowfull or something. IIRC the matriarch has spent more than half her life pregnant and a medical doc said that it was life threatening to get pregnant again because her lady parts could fallout or something. Also iirc this was 2015 so the fundie parts of the regressive primary were trying to "holier than thou" each other with their defense of the incest pedo and Zodiac Killer did the only good thing he's ever done and cockblocked Huckleberry from the photoops with the arrowful family PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 05:38 on May 9, 2018 |
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Quiverfull, and yes there's a deranged religious sect that thinks we desperately need more people on the planet right now.
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May 9, 2018 05:44
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Katt posted:It does if you're Catholic. Pull up a chair kiddos, and let me tell you about secret Catholic menstrual blood magic. No I'm not just sharing my Bloodborne fanfiction gently caress you. ^ no, more specifically, they think that good evangelical Christian families need to have all of the babies to outbreed the baddies.
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OwlFancier posted:Quiverfull, and yes there's a deranged religious sect that thinks we desperately need more people on the planet right now. Specifically it was the Duggars who have like 20 children two of which sexually abused the others.
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I feel so awful for Quiverfull family women. Imagine being born into that knowing that from the age of
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I feel so awful for Quiverfull family women. Imagine being born into that knowing that from the age of This is pretty much true of all women born into socially conservative religious households. They exist to make babies and serve as props, it's fuckin' lame.
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May 9, 2018 06:39
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PhazonLink posted:Isn't this that fundie sect that was on TLC a few years back? Arrowfull or something. IIRC the matriarch has spent more than half her life pregnant and a medical doc said that it was life threatening to get pregnant again because her lady parts could fallout or something. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/category/quiverfull
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oh and remember the blanket training. Go on guess what you think it is.
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PhazonLink posted:oh and remember the blanket training. yeah this poo poo is straight up child abuse. it's what you do when you want to purposely cripple a human and prevent them from ever maturing into a capable individual
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OwlFancier posted:Quiverfull, and yes there's a deranged religious sect that thinks we desperately need more people on the planet right now. Well, more of a certain type of people. In a way it's the weird companion of certain supposed progressives who are very, very concerned about overpopulation but as soon as you scratch the surface their concerns are basically "Not enough of us, way too many of them".
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Sometimes those people do exist, although it's important not to confuse them with people who want to target contraceptives, education, and women's rights at the areas where high birth rates, low secondary level education, and high gender inequality are the biggest problems. Otherwise you quite rapidly get into "they're rolling out cholera vaccinations in the areas where cholera is the worst because Bill Gate$$$ wants to kill a third of the population for insane Bible reasons and make an all-white utopia" levels of glowing-light-brains-chart.
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PhazonLink posted:oh and remember the blanket training. Is this the thing that ended up killing a little boy because he was basically mummy wrapped for hours because he wouldn’t obey (because he was a loving toddler)?
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Periods stop forever after you have a kid, it's just basic science. The body has a way of getting rid of unwanted periods.
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DarkHorse posted:Is this the thing that ended up killing a little boy because he was basically mummy wrapped for hours because he wouldn’t obey (because he was a loving toddler)? It's also by one of those fundie weirdos who believe you can train children up like dogs by giving them a treat every 5 minutes they stay on the blanket, which is where it starts to get odd. And in its worst form it's where you use corporal punishment if they leave the blanket. That's not an integral part of it, but given the sorts of people who like those 'training up children' guides...
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DarkHorse posted:Is this the thing that ended up killing a little boy because he was basically mummy wrapped for hours because he wouldn’t obey (because he was a loving toddler)? You might be confusing it with what I think is called attachment therapy where a child was killed by a "therapist" by wrapping her in a blanket as a way to fix her emotional problems as an adoptee.
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OwlFancier posted:You might be confusing it with what I think is called attachment therapy where a child was killed by a "therapist" by wrapping her in a blanket as a way to fix her emotional problems as an adoptee. That was it The blanket training though 
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OwlFancier posted:You might be confusing it with what I think is called attachment therapy where a child was killed by a "therapist" by wrapping her in a blanket as a way to fix her emotional problems as an adoptee. I thought they sealed the kid up in a sack and then beat the sack with sticks to simulate birth and so make the adopted kid "legitimate" and the kid just died instead. I remember they threw in a rope into the sack to symbolise the umbilical cord or am I thinking of a different therapist with an alternative approach to troublesome kids?
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My wife's sisters family is up to 7 and are going for "as many as God will give them" once the husband whined about liberals/planned parenthood and said "dont worry we will out-breed them" that is a real life quote. For real. And no they dont feel Trumps lifetime of debauchery is a problem and people shouldnt concern themselves with politics and just follow the path that god set out for them. Which is real convenient.
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Katt posted:I thought they sealed the kid up in a sack and then beat the sack with sticks to simulate birth and so make the adopted kid "legitimate" and the kid just died instead. If I recall from my white-knuckled read of the article, they sat/laid on the child and told her to struggle out of the bag. And she asphyxiated.
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Brawnfire posted:If I recall from my white-knuckled read of the article, they sat/laid on the child and told her to struggle out of the bag. And she asphyxiated. Where do they even find this creative enthusiasm for child murder?
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Bombadilillo posted:My wife's sisters family is up to 7 and are going for "as many as God will give them" once the husband whined about liberals/planned parenthood and said "dont worry we will out-breed them" that is a real life quote. For real. once you have like 4+ kids in a typical nuclear familiy you remaining kids are pretty much ungovernable except via means which will guarantee they reject your ideology. unless you are a parenting genius. that's just too many kids for a husband/wife to raise
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boner confessor posted:once you have like 4+ kids in a typical nuclear familiy you remaining kids are pretty much ungovernable except via means which will guarantee they reject your ideology. unless you are a parenting genius. that's just too many kids for a husband/wife to raise Almost universally at that point the parents are essentially forcing young children to do the work of secondary parents as well.
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Playstation 4 posted:Almost universally at that point the parents are essentially forcing young children to do the work of secondary parents as well. 100% accurate. And not ok. Poor oldest kid wanted to work with kids until she was 16. Now she's 18 and desperately want to go to college. Sad. Not trump sad. Actual sad.
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Brawnfire posted:If I recall from my white-knuckled read of the article, they sat/laid on the child and told her to struggle out of the bag. And she asphyxiated. Don't forget the verbal abuse as well!
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Brawnfire posted:If I recall from my white-knuckled read of the article, they sat/laid on the child and told her to struggle out of the bag. And she asphyxiated. Uhmm, pretty sure this is literally a CSI episode. Are we sure this happened?
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Orange Devil posted:Uhmm, pretty sure this is literally a CSI episode. Are we sure this happened? CSI plots are ripped from the headlines so...probably both?
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Orange Devil posted:Uhmm, pretty sure this is literally a CSI episode. Are we sure this happened? Yes. quote:Following the script for that day's treatment, Candace was wrapped in a flannel sheet to simulate a womb and told to extricate herself from it, with the apparent expectation that the experience would help her "attach" to her adoptive mother. Four of the adults used their hands and feet to push on Candace's head, chest and 70-pound body to resist her attempts to free herself, while she complained, pleaded, and even screamed for help and air. Candace stated several times during the session that she was dying, to which Ponder responded, "You want to die? OK, then die. Go ahead, die right now".[1] Twenty minutes into the session, Candace had vomited and excreted inside of the sheet; she was nonetheless kept restrained within.[2] Really the entire practice is just overcomplicated child abuse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_therapy OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:51 on May 9, 2018 |
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May 9, 2018 23:44
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Burn this horrible country to the ground and salt the earth
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I do wonder sometimes what it must be like wandering around without the faint perpetual awareness that something utterly horrific is happening right now to someone very much like you in a place very much like yours, precipitated solely by the active malice, passive ignorance, and systematized justifications for both, of the people who make up the society you live in. Like, just imagine thinking the world is basically OK. What a weird idea.
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Playstation 4 posted:Almost universally at that point the parents are essentially forcing young children to do the work of secondary parents as well. Oldest of 7. My dad lived 1000 miles away. My relationship with my mom is that of a bitter ex husband who hates her.
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There were four of us, and both my parents worked. It...honestly worked fine? And none of us were really anything close to a third parent, since we were too close in age.
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OwlFancier posted:I do wonder sometimes what it must be like wandering around without the faint perpetual awareness that something utterly horrific is happening right now to someone very much like you in a place very much like yours, precipitated solely by the active malice, passive ignorance, and systematized justifications for both, of the people who make up the society you live in. Yeah, I can't even walk down the street without thinking, hey, any one of my neighbors could have people locked in the basement, or a kid in a closet or strapped to a chair, or any number of things. Anyplace I can't personally see into can and may very well be a prison of unending misery for someone, someone who is locked into themselves and wakes up each day to that reality. It's nice, very calming.
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AnoHito posted:There were four of us, and both my parents worked. That’s really not the same situation.
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AnoHito posted:There were four of us, and both my parents worked. Ask your oldest brother about that, methinks he had things he would have liked to do, but instead couldn't or had to drag the brood along.
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It depends on the family. My wife is the third daughter out of four, yet ended up having to be the 'mom' of two of her siblings because they are disabled. She also had to be the translator for her immigrant parents to lawyers, EMT's, school officials, etc. Her oldest sister was apparently the favorite in the family and wasn't under any obligation along these lines.
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Tnega posted:Ask your oldest brother about that, methinks he had things he would have liked to do, but instead couldn't or had to drag the brood along. My oldest sibling pretty much just ignored the rest of us entirely. Like I barely even spoke with her until she went to college and suddenly decided she missed us all. The second oldest's only real interaction with us was playing videogames and pick-up football games with me and my other brother, which I'm fairly certain is normal for brothers to do together. He started also ignoring us entirely when he was around twelve.
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Orange Devil posted:Uhmm, pretty sure this is literally a CSI episode. Are we sure this happened? Law and Order Prime.
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AnoHito posted:My oldest sibling pretty much just ignored the rest of us entirely. Like I barely even spoke with her until she went to college and suddenly decided she missed us all. The second oldest's only real interaction with us was playing videogames and pick-up football games with me and my other brother, which I'm fairly certain is normal for brothers to do together. He started also ignoring us entirely when he was around twelve. They didn't like you because you were a burden they never asked for and instead of hanging out with their friends they had to watch you.
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Moral of the story: don’t have kids because you can.
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Bombadilillo posted:My wife's sisters family is up to 7 and are going for "as many as God will give them" once the husband whined about liberals/planned parenthood and said "dont worry we will out-breed them" that is a real life quote. For real. Man will be shocked when his kids defect to the enemy.
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