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Scruffyhawk
Jun 30, 2005

FHNNNNNNN
Ramrod XTreme
Did Thermidor ever come out

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Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

https://twitter.com/durzax739/status/994421988100845568
https://twitter.com/durzax739/status/994424588024020992

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Hilariously busted.

Has it been discussed that the name "Arena Commander" makes no sense?

I get that its Arena + Wing Commander but holy poo poo they didn't put ANY effort into that. An arena doesn't really have a commander, usually you have different sides. It'd be like "Arena Team Commander" or something. And thats if the arena even has teams.

I know I'm being pedantic but, its kinda dumb isn't it?

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

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Hav posted:

Yeah, but something as _exclusive_ as the Pathfinder edition? That tells all the hoi-palloi that you had $5 of expendable income at the right time, and that you're the most fervent of all backers. That had $5 and poor impulse control.

Seriously, I don't know why the loving trading card game isn't off the ground. Up the price to $10, throw in a foil trading card.

And now I hate myself.

Looking forward to stealing some guy's ships with fully loaded armories of all the special guns.

If the game ever, you know, becomes an actual game instead of a procedural egg in the face of a highly detailed male model asset.

Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard

Scruffyhawk posted:

Did Thermidor ever come out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4xjspBQuts

quote:

Banner of the Maid is a tactical role-playing game based on the famous French Revolution, with a twist of fictional fantasy elements. You will be playing as Pauline Bonaparte, a newly-graduated girl from military academy, who is always dreaming of earning herself a position in the upper class. In a journey of visiting her brother Napoleon Bonaparte, Pauline was accidentally dragged into a revolutionary storm in France.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

trucutru posted:

It's just your typical anime girls but they have like, ship funnels, or anti-aircraft batteries attached to their backs. Maybe a radar on their heads and such. And instead of high heels they wear high-rudders. Sailor suits, of course.

But they got popular so, a billion porn comics later, most nerds of the world can name about half of the Japanese WWII ships and which ones had the biggest cannons.

Oh! I've seen those before.
Some of them are actually kind of funny. :)

The weird part about some of those is that the guys who do them usually have a hideous amount of skill and they look really good.

I think I saw like a bunch of anime girl world leaders and stuff and that was kind of funny too. :3:

Peter.Quint
Mar 16, 2018


Kazan’s problem is that if he’s so awesome in real life why does he spend so much time begging for respect on Reddit (and getting completely owned most of the time).

The way he shifts the personal attributes (professional tech wizard, super intelligence, wealthy elite) he thinks will cow people and make them accept his viewpoints is so drat insecure.

It’s like he doesn’t get the difference between actually being charismatic and just going up to people and saying “I’m charismatic”.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

peter gabriel posted:

Montoya: Chris will never do this:



Chris Roberts: Hold my loving beer nerds





Uggggh not only that but Sandi's neck lanyard says Monaco GP

They got to watch the F1 race from a yacht. gently caress, the injustice of this hurts me so bad.

Tinfoil Papercut
Jul 27, 2016

by Athanatos

The Titanic posted:

If the game ever, you know, becomes an actual game

Come on now....

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

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TheAgent posted:

again: I just can't fuckin tell what's real anymore

someone take me back to 1997 please

You realize instead of seeing Derek's posts on twitter and forums in neat CSS stuff, you'd just be seeing him attacking people in Usenet raw text feeds.

The more things change, the less things change.

shrach
Jan 10, 2004

daylight ssssaving time
The salaries for CIG in Europe have been very consistent in the £44.5k average, this includes ER NI. That has worked out at between ~$73k and ~$56k per employee as the exchange rates have varied over the years.

You can also spot where the direct costs of the motion capture shoot are because of the cost ratio between employee salaries and other gross costs. There may be an extra $1-2m for reshoots in 2016 but it's less conclusive.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

The Titanic posted:

The weird part about some of those is that the guys who do them usually have a hideous amount of skill and they look really good.

Well, yes, the companies that make those games commission the art to skilled, popular artists, and give them some guidelines about what to do. Then they pay them some peanuts (unless they are already top-level artists, like the guys who design the Fire Emblem characters) in exchange for notoriety.

And most of the JP games are somewhat "classy" (for anime standards) because that's how Japanese nerds like their official waifus to be. Then you have the Chinese knockoffs which are way more T&A.

Pretty often you see some artists tweet about using the money they earned to try and roll the characters they designed. So hey! Free art!

What I'm saying is that there is still no SC Connie-chan or Carrack-Tan which means that nobody around those places gives a poo poo about star citizen.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Peter.Quint posted:

Kazan’s problem is that if he’s so awesome in real life why does he spend so much time begging for respect on Reddit (and getting completely owned most of the time).

The way he shifts the personal attributes (professional tech wizard, super intelligence, wealthy elite) he thinks will cow people and make them accept his viewpoints is so drat insecure.

It’s like he doesn’t get the difference between actually being charismatic and just going up to people and saying “I’m charismatic”.

It's because he's 100% full of poo poo and probably only leaves the basement to go to work.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

shrach posted:

You can also spot where the direct costs of the motion capture shoot are because of the cost ratio between employee salaries and other gross costs. There may be an extra $1-2m for reshoots in 2016 but it's less conclusive.

Maybe, maybe not because there are multiple sister companies that could be covering those. The only thing we can really know for sure is that it is a pretty drat expensive operation.

Bayonnefrog
Nov 9, 2017

Random aside: how bad is the new 'Solo' movie?

Sample_text
Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

big nipples big life posted:

It's because he's 100% full of poo poo and probably only leaves the basement to go to work.

Kazan, like Star Citizen suffers from "don't know what alpha means" syndrome.

shrach
Jan 10, 2004

daylight ssssaving time

trucutru posted:

Maybe, maybe not because there are multiple sister companies that could be covering those. The only thing we can really know for sure is that it is a pretty drat expensive operation.

We know that they negotiated with the BFI and UK Govt, who assisted in ensuring that it qualified for UK tax credits. We can eliminate the other UK companies and be pretty certain they were paid for by Foundry 42 Ltd. We know when they would have been paid and we know there was a bump in costs in that period.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Bayonnefrog posted:

Random aside: how bad is the new 'Solo' movie?

Forgot about that clusterfuck.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Peter.Quint posted:

Kazan’s problem is that if he’s so awesome in real life why does he spend so much time begging for respect on Reddit (and getting completely owned most of the time).

The way he shifts the personal attributes (professional tech wizard, super intelligence, wealthy elite) he thinks will cow people and make them accept his viewpoints is so drat insecure.

It’s like he doesn’t get the difference between actually being charismatic and just going up to people and saying “I’m charismatic”.

<certifiedmillionaire.jpg> (I don’t have the source image but maybe someone can assist.)

The “Certified Millionaire” jpg is burned in memory right alongside “Tall Poppy Syndrome”. Speaking of which, that video really has aged well.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

DapperDon posted:

Yeah, I still don't get it. From my understanding of things, Derek was just another backer that spends a decent chunk of change on new and upcoming games like SOTA and the like. How does buying a different game bring him into CIG's good graces? I'm not in the industry so I have no real idea how any of it may be connected. But I do understand industry schmeg.

Derek's said much the same to me, which is why I underlined the _backer theory_ to really underline that it's a back theory. I've never bought the 'Oh, it just irritates me so much' reasoning behind it, because Derek treats the whole thing _very personally_. He's not what you'd call an _equal opportunity_ hater.

No, the upshot is that the approach worked with Alganon - Shuffle into the money, slag off the developers, move into development and eventually run the thing into the ground, so he was looking for the next vehicle to pay the bills. One of the most delicious ironies was that although the 'what about your games' defense is loving weak, Derek doesn't like delivering to deadlines and hates it when people ask pointed questions.

poo poo, dude. Can't do anything about German drivers because you don't speak German?

I'm actually being vague because although this is all background and you can go look for it yourself, I don't want to give backers or Space Crabs more loving ammunition to bang on about some guy who is actually fairly tangental to the train wreck d'jour. Chuck me a direct message and I'll expound further, but I like Derek and feel that some people are quite unfair towards him.

big nipples big life posted:

It's almost like the leopard's spots have been visible since the usenet days.

Some of us are amazed our usenet ramblings still exist, but this is very much the point. There's a lot more nuance between 'angel' and 'dick', and everyone sits between those poles.

DapperDon posted:

Perhaps you should go and re-arrange your deck flair and jpeg collections if you need to go micromanage something this much.

That was mean. Theory-crafting is what we do here, and it's worth going over the assumptions just to see if there are any insights to be gained.

DapperDon posted:

I love how the Expanse deals with that very thing.

They're really handwaving the recoil that thing should generate, but they've had to do a bunch of license for the TV over the books.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

G0RF posted:

<certifiedmillionaire.jpg> (I don’t have the source image but maybe someone can assist.)

The “Certified Millionaire” jpg is burned in memory right alongside “Tall Poppy Syndrome”. Speaking of which, that video really has aged well.


https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3774632&pagenumber=1&perpage=40#post460394930

From the Cabinet of Curious Citizens:







trucutru fucked around with this message at 19:51 on May 10, 2018

DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

Peter.Quint posted:

Kazan’s problem is that if he’s so awesome in real life why does he spend so much time begging for respect on Reddit (and getting completely owned most of the time).

The way he shifts the personal attributes (professional tech wizard, super intelligence, wealthy elite) he thinks will cow people and make them accept his viewpoints is so drat insecure.

It’s like he doesn’t get the difference between actually being charismatic and just going up to people and saying “I’m charismatic”.

He should join forces with Clifford so they can join and become one Gigantic Pathetic Superdouche Sperg Robot.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

The Titanic posted:

Sounds like this guy went to the Chris Roberts school of technology. Where space warfare needs to be performed at knifing distance instead of say, millions and millions of light years away with well placed masses or laser ware fare from distances you can't even see the other attacker's in.

This guy must have poo poo fits when he watches Tomahawk missile launches on the news or something. :3:

The sad part is that long-ranged cross-instanced combat between capital ships could have been really cool. There was an opportunity to make some really interesting and unique gameplay, with combat being really strategic and long-term as you try to balance dodging with shooting your capital-class weapons across hundreds or millions of kilometers.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

big nipples big life posted:

It's because he's 100% full of poo poo and probably only leaves the basement to go to work.

Without the impetus of work, there's literally nothing providing for deep knowledge of anything. We all stand on the shoulders of giants.

Trust fund kids don't know poo poo is what I'm saying.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Sooooo good.

“Give me the Tony the Tiger but rocking a power mullet. I want a Certified Millionaire avatar that means business.”

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Wesha, Kazan, and Clifford walk into a bar...

... the bar owner retires the next day.

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer
It's Baron vs Bored

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TofrmnLrR3w&t=771s

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

G0RF posted:

“Give me the Tony the Tiger but rocking a power mullet. I want a Certified Millionaire avatar that means business.”



I want to see tax returns before people get to call themselves 'millionaire'.

edit: Meteors do not hit the Earth, but thousands of meteorites hit the Earth each year. I question the credentials of 'BoredGamer'.

Hav fucked around with this message at 20:04 on May 10, 2018

Sample_text
Apr 28, 2018

by VideoGames

So now they eat each other in the world's most passive aggressive spreg-off?

P.S . Bad news Baron getting out-shilled and marginalized would be hilarious.
I know if that happens, I'll personally deliver a :
"Well Baron, it seems you were the one who doesn't understand game development"

Yeah, but seriously,, gently caress that guy. I hope ge GamerMax-es himself off twitch.....

Sample_text fucked around with this message at 20:08 on May 10, 2018

DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

Hav posted:

One of the most delicious ironies was that although the 'what about your games' defense is loving weak, Derek doesn't like delivering to deadlines and hates it when people ask pointed questions.

I have heard it said multiple times that creative Game Development is an art form. As someone that does the creative and has built an entire reputation for it, I understand what this means exactly. There are blockers, there are setbacks, and sometimes you just stare at a gantt chart for hours as your eyes glaze over because it just isn't there today. Hard deadlines with anything dealing with creation and expression hardly ever work with hard deadlines. But on the other hand, when you DO deliver, it had better be amazing. Mediocre Prima Donnas never last long in any industry.

Hav posted:

Chuck me a direct message and I'll expound further, but I like Derek and feel that some people are quite unfair towards him.

Would love to but I don't have access to the secret Platinum Account Upgrade

Hav posted:

That was mean. Theory-crafting is what we do here, and it's worth going over the assumptions just to see if there are any insights to be gained.

Not intended that way, just my way of saying that the Goons have settled this a while ago. The spergs that claim that we are full of poo poo about that and guessing are flailing in the net like one of those endangered sharks that MoMa likes to kill and eat.

Hav posted:

They're really handwaving the recoil that thing should generate, but they've had to do a bunch of license for the TV over the books.

I would like to say that even though the recoil is proportionate to the force generated, the Sci Fi magic at work here that I think can handwave it away Crobbearts style is their Epstein Drive Tech and my theory that it provides a counterforce to absorb the recoil. Look at me now, I'm a game dev too!

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

DapperDon posted:

I love how the Expanse deals with that very thing.


If some citizens are browsing the thread right now, they're probably triggered by this gif where the space ships aren't within spitting distance of each other, dodging each other's HUD pips and machine gun fire like WW1 era Sopwith Camels.

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Hav posted:



I want to see tax returns before people get to call themselves 'millionaire'.

I don’t know, I think an anthropomorphic self-portrait fit for a cereal box preferred in the Sha-Na-Na household should be enough. Especially if it says “Certified Millionaire.”

Also:

YOUTUBE: Around the Verse - A Beacon of Service

Dense forests in the editor.

G0RF fucked around with this message at 20:26 on May 10, 2018

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Zaphod42 posted:

Hilariously busted.

Has it been discussed that the name "Arena Commander" makes no sense?

I get that its Arena + Wing Commander but holy poo poo they didn't put ANY effort into that. An arena doesn't really have a commander, usually you have different sides. It'd be like "Arena Team Commander" or something. And thats if the arena even has teams.

I know I'm being pedantic but, its kinda dumb isn't it?

Arena Commander makes sense because at the time of its inception, CIG was still very much nursing from the heavily laden cow udder of the Wing Commander crowd. This was a very targeted nostalgia attack for money.

Thoatse
Feb 29, 2016

Lol said the scorpion, lmao
https://i.imgur.com/9F0Ql3g.gifv

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010




:kimchi:

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

trucutru posted:

Well, yes, the companies that make those games commission the art to skilled, popular artists, and give them some guidelines about what to do. Then they pay them some peanuts (unless they are already top-level artists, like the guys who design the Fire Emblem characters) in exchange for notoriety.

And most of the JP games are somewhat "classy" (for anime standards) because that's how Japanese nerds like their official waifus to be. Then you have the Chinese knockoffs which are way more T&A.

Pretty often you see some artists tweet about using the money they earned to try and roll the characters they designed. So hey! Free art!

What I'm saying is that there is still no SC Connie-chan or Carrack-Tan which means that nobody around those places gives a poo poo about star citizen.

And yet there is a Banu Merchantmangirl.

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=20LYKnFryns

his nibs
Feb 27, 2016

:kayak:Welcome to the:kayak:
Dream Factory
:kayak:
Grimey Drawer

Sample_text posted:

So now they eat each other in the world's most passive aggressive spreg-off?

P.S . Bad news Baron getting out-shilled and marginalized would be hilarious.
I know if that happens, I'll personally deliver a :
"Well Baron, it seems you were the one who doesn't understand game development"

Yeah, but seriously,, gently caress that guy. I hope ge GamerMax-es himself off twitch.....



The comments are a treat :allears:

DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

The Titanic posted:

And yet there is a Banu Merchantmangirl.

No. Please not that.

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G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.
RICKY: “Moving down the roadmap into gameplay, shopping kiosks continue to be tweaked.”

The revolution continues.

G0RF fucked around with this message at 20:37 on May 10, 2018

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