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DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

DeathSandwich posted:

So what's the recommended way to twink out a monk on a budget? I'm guessing start with a pair of trance sticks, fbss, and then fill in from there with the cheapest lightest things you can find and then finish with Wu's fighting gear for empty slots on the cheap? Is it ever worthwhile to use one of the cheap 2hb monk sticks over dual wielding considering they have dual wield at level 1 and a higher cap on the skill?

2HB is good once you get double attack. It is not good before that. Agree with the above poster, all that really matters is weapons and haste. Also, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the weight restriction only affects AC so weight doesn't really matter if you're not taking damage.

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dabe
Nov 18, 2012
So I recently hit 31 on my SK and I'm kind of lost on what to do next. I spent most of my time grouping and soloing in upper guk and I can probably stay for couple more levels but my gear isn't the greatest and I'm pretty broke. Anyone have any suggestions on what I should hit up next?

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

dabe posted:

So I recently hit 31 on my SK and I'm kind of lost on what to do next. I spent most of my time grouping and soloing in upper guk and I can probably stay for couple more levels but my gear isn't the greatest and I'm pretty broke. Anyone have any suggestions on what I should hit up next?

Mistmoore probably, If you can make it to 35 or so you'll be about ready for City of Mist.

dabe
Nov 18, 2012

DeathSandwich posted:

Mistmoore probably, If you can make it to 35 or so you'll be about ready for City of Mist.

Thanks, I'll give it a shot!

DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

dabe posted:

So I recently hit 31 on my SK and I'm kind of lost on what to do next. I spent most of my time grouping and soloing in upper guk and I can probably stay for couple more levels but my gear isn't the greatest and I'm pretty broke. Anyone have any suggestions on what I should hit up next?

At 31 you might be able to solo splitpaw gnolls in SK. They're good money, especially if you can sell the scrolls to players farming them for the Qeynos turn in. They also drop tons of fine steel, and gnoll hide lariats are good pet weapons for mages, etc.

aparmenideanmonad
Jan 28, 2004
Balls to you and your way of mortal opinions - you don't exist anyway!
Fun Shoe

DeathSandwich posted:

So what's the recommended way to twink out a monk on a budget? I'm guessing start with a pair of trance sticks, fbss, and then fill in from there with the cheapest lightest things you can find and then finish with Wu's fighting gear for empty slots on the cheap? Is it ever worthwhile to use one of the cheap 2hb monk sticks over dual wielding considering they have dual wield at level 1 and a higher cap on the skill?

Snag a wu's quivering staff to keep 2HB leveled up as you go. It doesn't take long each level and it will easily outdamage trance sticks once you hit 20 and you're out of low level damage cap hell. On that note, it's worth keeping fists leveled as you go as well - you'll thank yourself later when you inevitably get your epic (monk's one of the easiest ones).

As far as other gear, prioritize whichever HP/AC rings fit your budget (these should go on all twinks pretty much) and any other nearly free hp>>>>ac>str>dex gear. Don't waste money on super marginal ac/stat gear, save it for bandaids/better weapons/haste/fungi. Camping Dalnir with a goon is a good call if you can find someone feeling generous.

Oh, and roll Iksar - you'll have less deficiencies to make up for via your budget.

Pillow Armadillo
Nov 15, 2005

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!"
I will escort you through Crypt of Dalnir for Crescent armor once you hit level 17, new monk.

I usually rotate between Skullmonkey, 60 warrior, Klaymen (wizard), or Hoborg (46 Ranger). I am also a rare spawn, so feel free to post in the thread once you get rolling along.

As for the rest of you degenerates, I'll be on Discord or in-game periodically to chat or assist people with ports/short adventures (<90 minutes) as I try to find some dungeon groups.

Looking to assemble a Sebilis, Kedge Keep, or Tower of Frozen Shadow group.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Are class based exp penalties still active?

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Republicans posted:

Are class based exp penalties still active?

Class penalties are out, racial ones are still in. Class exp bonuses from rogue and Warrior are also still in

aparmenideanmonad
Jan 28, 2004
Balls to you and your way of mortal opinions - you don't exist anyway!
Fun Shoe

Republicans posted:

Are class based exp penalties still active?

Nope, they're gone with the earlier Velious patches, but race penalties/bonuses are still in.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo
How do you deal with a getting a res due to the server dropping connection and dying to a giant? I petition but realize it's a couple dudes so it might not even get answered and that means your 3 hours corpse rot is ticking.

I am now logged off to stop it from ticking down, but now I can't be online to respond.

aparmenideanmonad
Jan 28, 2004
Balls to you and your way of mortal opinions - you don't exist anyway!
Fun Shoe

EVIL Gibson posted:

How do you deal with a getting a res due to the server dropping connection and dying to a giant? I petition but realize it's a couple dudes so it might not even get answered and that means your 3 hours corpse rot is ticking.

I am now logged off to stop it from ticking down, but now I can't be online to respond.
Guides typically don't provide rezzes unless it's a logged server/zone outage, which is something that gets broadcast to the CSR chat and gets a quick response. Rogean can look up zone uptime logs, but typically the guides will know about it before he does since they're in game a lot more frequently. The internet happening to take a poo poo between you and p1999 sucks but it's almost never going to result in a CSR rez.

If it is something you think is petition-worthy, the best way to handle it is to petition on your dead character and give the account and char name of another character you'll log in on while waiting. I dunno if timers still tick when you're on the same server account, so it's best to get on a diff account entirely - you can get another server account easily at eqemulator so it's not like it's much of a hassle.

gepgepgep
May 22, 2006

EVIL Gibson posted:

How do you deal with a getting a res due to the server dropping connection and dying to a giant? I petition but realize it's a couple dudes so it might not even get answered and that means your 3 hours corpse rot is ticking.

I am now logged off to stop it from ticking down, but now I can't be online to respond.

Did entire server crash? Would imagine you can get XP Rez after time ticks down. Just your net? Pay the plat.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

gepgepgep posted:

Did entire server crash? Would imagine you can get XP Rez after time ticks down. Just your net? Pay the plat.

My internet has been super solid. Is there a page that shows all server down times besides front page of current status?

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo
Props to Spasepope who helped me out with that res! If you want Top Rated #1 Thomas the Tank Engine roleplay, check that dude out

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
Spasepope is a character/account (Spasepope is the only character on the account) that gets passed around. Mebash of Kittens Who Say Meow made the character/account, but the account info is passed along pretty freely to anyone in Kittens, and druids/wizards in Kittens are pretty happy to help port Spasepope around to wherever the rez is needed.

So basically anybody could've been logged onto Spasepope and given you the rez.

Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 21:19 on May 6, 2018

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Dick Burglar posted:

Spasepope is a character/account (Spasepope is the only character on the account) that gets passed around. Mebash of Kittens Who Say Meow made the character/account, but the account info is passed along pretty freely to anyone in Kittens, and druids/wizards in Kittens are pretty happy to help port Spasepope around to wherever the rez is needed.

So basically anybody could've been logged onto Spasepope and given you the rez.

I had no clue but that's nice! But whoever was on it was super into sending me train like messages and I will not kinkshame

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
Next time I log onto Spasepope (I have the info, but I wasn't the one who gave you the rez) I will make sure to maintain the train fetish theme, for character consistency. Somebody needs to get Spasepope's surname changed to Trainlover or something.

Jean Eric Burn
Nov 10, 2007

Anyone use GINA, when i'm running 2 games (eq alt tabbed) and gina, it seems to cap the FPS in the other game to 30. Can I fix this?

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Jean Eric Burn posted:

Anyone use GINA, when i'm running 2 games (eq alt tabbed) and gina, it seems to cap the FPS in the other game to 30. Can I fix this?

Uhhhhh. You are running two p99 characters at the same time?

I don't think so because the GMs get reports of characters coming from the same ip and ban them super quick.

Jean Eric Burn
Nov 10, 2007

Nah any other game, dota etc.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

Jean Eric Burn posted:

Nah any other game, dota etc.

Gotcha. GINA uses GPU for doing things like overlays.

This is Nvidia side of things, but you can force any application to use 3d settings of your choosing. I added GINA since it did not show up in the control panel and change the circled settings to unlock framerate, stop vsyncing, and something about my monitor refresh rate which was already set to what I wanted.



This is not a solution. This is just a suggestion.

Bo-Pepper
Sep 9, 2002

Want some rye?
Course ya do!

Fun Shoe
I played this last night and had a good time. Will be on now and again playing as Bugby the Gnome Magician. I may switch to something else but that's me for now.

Ruggan
Feb 20, 2007
WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!


Is bard PbAOE really only 2 damage until level 10 or so, and only 3 damage until 18?

How the hell does anyone mass AoE kite at that horrifically low level of damage? That’s like... possibly 100+ ticks to kill something.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

Ruggan posted:

Is bard PbAOE really only 2 damage until level 10 or so, and only 3 damage until 18?

How the hell does anyone mass AoE kite at that horrifically low level of damage? That’s like... possibly 100+ ticks to kill something.

When you are kiting 200 things at once, it doesn't matter that it takes 10 minutes.

*edit* I don't actually know if bards can hit an unlimited amount of stuff with PBAOE but I assume they can, that's how druid PBAOE kiting worked when I did it in Luclin, dragged 100 mobs around in The Grey for 15-20 minutes for $$$, also lagged the gently caress out of myself and died a bit before I figured it all out.

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
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Ruggan posted:

Is bard PbAOE really only 2 damage until level 10 or so, and only 3 damage until 18?

How the hell does anyone mass AoE kite at that horrifically low level of damage? That’s like... possibly 100+ ticks to kill something.

The base effect on poo poo is low because it's modified by instruments.

Ruggan
Feb 20, 2007
WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!


xZAOx posted:

The base effect on poo poo is low because it's modified by instruments.

Ok. So, what, 4-6?

sandball
Jan 6, 2006

MF_James posted:

When you are kiting 200 things at once, it doesn't matter that it takes 10 minutes.

*edit* I don't actually know if bards can hit an unlimited amount of stuff with PBAOE but I assume they can, that's how druid PBAOE kiting worked when I did it in Luclin, dragged 100 mobs around in The Grey for 15-20 minutes for $$$, also lagged the gently caress out of myself and died a bit before I figured it all out.

P99 devs locked down all AoEs to something like 25 targets max or something awhile back.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo

sandball posted:

P99 devs locked down all AoEs to something like 25 targets max or something awhile back.

I've seen bards seem to look like they are kiting more than that. I think maybe to make sure they always hit 25 when one is a bit out of ae range ?

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Ruggan posted:

Ok. So, what, 4-6?

When you right click inspect an insturment and see the "stringed mod ___", divide that number by 10 and multiply it by any numerical factors in the spell and that's what it'll do. A lute of the Gypsy Princess from Mistmoore has a 21 stringed modifier, so multiply the damage by 2.1. On my level 14 bard with the lute out, it does something like 11-12 damage a tick which isn't *great* (it's less than the druid insect swarm at 13 a tick), but it's also completely mana free and can be kept up indefinitely with 2 other bard effects. Coupled with the horn DoT you get in your teens, you can actually start doing a not-insignificant amount of damage with both together when swarmkiting, especially if you're fast enough to be swapping instruments to max out damage.

Bards are really interesting, none of their damage options are really good, but they can be used in creative ways and over long endurance periods that other classes only dream they could have.

Also keep in mind that at this point in the game, Damage over Time spells do something like 35% less damage to someone who isn't rooted, feared, or engaged in melee, if they are chasing you, your DoT damage is getting dinged for it because EQ developers hated people fighting things in ways they didn't intend (like running away from something until it died from insects/poison/bad guitar playing)

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Bards killing people with music isn't all that far fetched.

Babbage was killed by a team of angry organ grinders who he had tried to get kicked out of the city, they camped outside his house and wore him down all day and then he had a heart attack or something.

I've never played a bard, sometimes I think about it but eh.

DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

Every time I've played bard I enjoy it less because if you talk with your group, try to be social, etc, you're objectively worse at barding.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

DisgracelandUSA posted:

Every time I've played bard I enjoy it less because if you talk with your group, try to be social, etc, you're objectively worse at barding.

That's freaky three big part of it. Bard song rotations are honestly less intense than something like FFXIX (which in and of itself is less intense than wow) but the thing is that it's constant, inside and out of combat. Out of combat you'll be twisting regen and mana songs at a minimum with speed or resists coming up for the puller, so there is basically no downtime for you.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Zaphod42 posted:

Bards killing people with music isn't all that far fetched.

Babbage was killed by a team of angry organ grinders who he had tried to get kicked out of the city, they camped outside his house and wore him down all day and then he had a heart attack or something.

I've never played a bard, sometimes I think about it but eh.

Never forget Fansy the famous bard who owned an entire server https://www.notacult.com/fansythefamous.htm

DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

DeathSandwich posted:

That's freaky three big part of it. Bard song rotations are honestly less intense than something like FFXIX (which in and of itself is less intense than wow) but the thing is that it's constant, inside and out of combat. Out of combat you'll be twisting regen and mana songs at a minimum with speed or resists coming up for the puller, so there is basically no downtime for you.

This is true for shaman as well, though it's somewhat manageable before torpor and after cannibalization (for Luclin servers).

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
Help I want to resume leveling my ranger even though rangers suck. I was also doing fletching and holy poo poo EQ tradeskills are extra painful.

Pillow Armadillo
Nov 15, 2005

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!"
What level is your Ranger?

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
35. The amount of suck has started to creep in, although I'm not totally worthless yet. I put him on hold and got my bard to 30 then kinda burned out because ugh Mistmoore and poo poo.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Hexel posted:

Never forget Fansy the famous bard who owned an entire server https://www.notacult.com/fansythefamous.htm

Hahahahaha this rules

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Flunky
Jan 2, 2014

Hexel posted:

Never forget Fansy the famous bard who owned an entire server https://www.notacult.com/fansythefamous.htm

Any time I see a server labeled "no rules" in a game I think of Fansy.

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