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can't wait till they start talking to each otherquote:F： Are you serious? Where do you get your ideas?
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in like 1993 mtv set up email bots for beavis and butthead and if you emailed one of them it would send you back a joke, then someone spoofed a message from one to the other and it melted down their mail server and basically I'm assuming something similar will happen with this google is essentially weaponizing machine learning against small businesses, like oh hi hair salon, you're sick of getting 10000 robot calls a day? well if you had google small business cloud whatever the bots could just hook into the google calendar api and not call your phone only $299 per month
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May 9, 2018 20:21
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sure we've got appointments, the standard fee is two to the sixty-fourth power divided by zero new zealand dollars per cubic rand, is that okay
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May 9, 2018 20:28
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can google's ai cancel an appointment or does it make a human do that
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May 9, 2018 20:30
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ok google, book me a reservation at every restaurant in town for 7 pm. I don’t know where I will feel like eating. two hours later: okay google, cancel all of my reservations except this one
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May 9, 2018 20:38
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The Management posted:ok google, book me a reservation at every restaurant in town for 7 pm. I don’t know where I will feel like eating. there's already bots that do this for opentable, adding phone calls just seems like it's going to spread the misery
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May 9, 2018 20:45
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google:qirex posted:spread the misery
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May 10, 2018 05:17
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qirex posted:there's already bots that do this for opentable, adding phone calls just seems like it's going to spread the misery Didn't someone do this and create a secondary market (pay for reservation)?
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May 10, 2018 06:07
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lmao you guys actually think it will work or even get released
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May 10, 2018 07:48
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rapeface posted:lmao you guys actually think it will work or even get released Forums user "rapeface" makes an interesting point.
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May 10, 2018 07:49
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bull3964 posted:Here's the thing.
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May 11, 2018 19:17
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rapeface posted:lmao you guys actually think it will work or even get released They'll release it. This is a company that thinks their AI can be trusted to pilot a 5000lb death machine at 70 miles an hour. They'll have zero second thoughts about unleashing reservation bots on the world. It'll be awful, it won't ever work, no one will use it, and it'll quietly be killed 12 months later. But they'll release it.
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May 11, 2018 20:22
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Schadenboner posted:Didn't someone do this and create a secondary market (pay for reservation)? yes. in DC at least the in-demand restaurants started to get pissed off about no-shows due to people/bots booking "just in case" reservations and implemented deposit/pre-payment requirements. those same high-demand spots were what the startups were hoping to monetize so they flamed our pretty quickly after that.
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May 11, 2018 20:28
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Fiedler posted:They'll release it. This is a company that thinks their AI can be trusted to pilot a 5000lb death machine at 70 miles an hour. They'll have zero second thoughts about unleashing reservation bots on the world. you’re thinking of tesla or uber. google cars are maddeningly slow
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May 11, 2018 21:35
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The Management posted:you’re thinking of tesla or uber. google cars are maddeningly slow
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May 11, 2018 23:08
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Shifty Pony posted:yes. yeah this isn’t for alter or momofuku it’s for when a DYPer takes a first date to a chili’s in a flyover state at 7pm on a Tuesday
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May 12, 2018 02:42
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if Google really wanted to make big bux they could train this assistant to be an e-gf for incels
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May 12, 2018 09:37
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Cocoa Crispies posted:yeah this isn’t for alter or momofuku it’s for when a DYPer takes a first date to a chili’s in a flyover state at 7pm on a Tuesday that's not a valid use case either because nobody makes reservations at chain restaurants "kenosha chili's, how can i help you" "hello, my client would like to make a reservation for 2 at 7pm on tuesday. do you have any tables still available?" *looks around the room, which is empty except for some 60 year old chain restaurant bar flys* "yeah, a couple"
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May 12, 2018 14:51
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The_Franz posted:that's not a valid use case either because nobody makes reservations at chain restaurants lol if you think a chilis in ohio has an open table for 2 at 7pm on a tuesday thats like an hour wait minimum
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May 12, 2018 16:05
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LastInLine posted:lol if you think a chilis in ohio has an open table for 2 at 7pm on a tuesday thats like an hour wait minimum voice of experience here
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May 12, 2018 16:15
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Google, as usual, is vastly overestimating the quality of their robot software vis-a-vis humans' pattern recognition abilities It's going to take approximately a week of this software being available before every popular restauranteur and salon owner in the country has learned the Google Assistant voices and speech patterns well enough to respond to every question with "have your client call me for real," or just hang up immediately
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May 12, 2018 16:23
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People seem to forget that we've had software that "passes the Turing test" literally since the 1960s with ELIZA, where it fools is at first because we've never seen anything like it, and then after a few minutes of exposure our brains automatically discover the gaps and it doesn't work anymore. This happens every single time people attempt to create software that can hold a human conversation, and it will continue to fail until we develop strong AI. Humans are just that good
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May 12, 2018 16:26
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Sagebrush posted:Google, as usual, is vastly overestimating the quality of their robot software vis-a-vis humans' pattern recognition abilities yes, small business owners are well known for turning away business whenever possible if it actually works well (it probably won't) nobody is going to actually give a poo poo and turn away business over it
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May 12, 2018 16:34
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it's actually a good thing for a restaurant to turn away "business" that is merely going to reserve a table (and prevent you from giving it to other customers), but never actually show up or pay you any money
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May 12, 2018 16:39
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Notice where I said "popular" Places that can't fill the tables are, surprise, not places where you have to make reservations in the first place This software will be used to spam popular locations with requests for Friday night at 7 p.m., by the people who do this for dozens of locations and then pick the one they like 20 minutes before and cancel the rest. the owners will recognize this and start turning people away Of course, as with any Google product, you have to assume that it was developed for internal consumption first. In this case, it's to enable autistic people (Googlers) to make appointments without having to talk to any human beings, and to "optimize" their time by not having to take a 10-minute break in the middle of the day to do something other than work on those advertising metrics I also liked someone's suggestion earlier in the thread that this will be used to strongarm businesses into paying Google for pro calendar integration so they don't get swamped with robocalls
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May 12, 2018 16:44
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restaurants still use open table this wouldn't have to be any different
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May 12, 2018 16:45
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restaurants will just give you a second class “assistant reservation”, which means it might not be there when you show up.
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May 12, 2018 18:34
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Jose Valasquez posted:restaurants still use open table a lot of the popular ones only set aside like 1/4 for OT because of this exact problem, these will just go in that pool
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May 12, 2018 18:49
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like im sure there's a justification somewhere, but cant see why any business would want to pay someone to spend five minutes on the phone with a scripted ai when you could just get that in < 10 sec with any of the billion scheduling software solutions out there its not 2000, anyone who cant handle booking with a website isnt worth doing business with
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May 12, 2018 20:12
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oh just have the ai talk to your ai, spoken language is the most accurate and efficient way to handle that
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May 12, 2018 20:12
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I hate dealing with stupid automated trees. I’m not convinced their AI is going to be less bad in any way. cause they’re google. but yeah a good way to discriminate against tech dorks
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May 12, 2018 20:18
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Sagebrush posted:Notice where I said "popular"
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May 12, 2018 21:00
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PCjr sidecar posted:its not 2000, anyone who cant handle booking with a website isnt worth doing business with it closes the small business gap; like my salon isnt bookable online. its probably the only thing i cant schedule by a web form or app now, right there that rules me out because im not in the category of 'great clips patron' and can manage the meager human interaction of scheduling my trims in advance, but great clips has an app so idk what that does to help in that case, either maybe its a play to get older users to trust technology more than learning some ap-ahaha that also wont work
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May 12, 2018 21:43
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I just go to Supercuts.
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May 12, 2018 22:37
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great cliPs is good (you might even say great) because you can check in online and they have your haircut preferences stored on a server somewhere 
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May 12, 2018 22:59
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Best Bi Geek Squid posted:great cliPs is good (you might even say great) because you can check in online and they have your haircut preferences stored on a server somewhere Can confirm.
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May 12, 2018 23:06
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rule 36, find a good barber/hair salon
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May 12, 2018 23:18
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not even rule 36, chain hair places suck. if it suits your needs then whatever but have some self respect
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May 12, 2018 23:26
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OldAlias posted:not even rule 36, chain hair places suck. if it suits your needs then whatever but have some self respect yeah. if youre a guy a trim wont cost much more than what youre paying and you can have the same stylist each time so they just know what you like those super cuts places are part time or holdover gigs for stylists so you kind of play the lottery on quality and consistency. not bad if you have a simple cut but if you like consistency having the same stylist really helps
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until google creates some kind of chaplinesque trim bot a human you can rely on is a good bet for nice cuts
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