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No seriously thank you! That was helpful! Next question: what counts as light armor and/or how do you tell? Are helmets and gloves ok? Right now everyone literally has nothing but a shield and a weapon and every time I took off any kind of protection at all, evasion went up.
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This database will pretty much tell you everything you need to know: https://guides.gamercorner.net/ffii/ It is for the NES version, so some things might be different.
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May 12, 2018 20:30
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Elephant Ambush posted:No seriously thank you! That was helpful! Light armor has a slightly shorter icon (at least in the NES version, I assume it’s true in later versions) and is usually cheaper. Helmets and gloves kinda vary. I recommend this wonderful guide as a reference, though this is based on the NES version so the equipment names may not be accurate. Also note that if you go to weapons and shields, the spellcasting penalties on those only apply to the NES version, they removed that penalty for later versions (yet still kept the armor penalties for whatever reason). e: Beaten
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May 12, 2018 20:32
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Well poo poo. I will pay attention to the icons then and give my nerds better poo poo. Thanks guys! 
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May 12, 2018 20:36
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Edgar is such an underrated character in the series. Dude gives up his freedom for the brother he loves like it's nothing. Guy comes off as nothing more than a lech but there's far more to him. I wish he had more story time in FFVI.
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May 12, 2018 21:24
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FF6 actually benefits a lot from having such a large cast since everyone getting minimal development lets players fill in the blanks with their own imagined character traits. I mean if anything Edgar should've had less development, particularly the part where he hits on ten-year-old girls.
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May 12, 2018 21:40
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Mega64 posted:FF6 actually benefits a lot from having such a large cast since everyone getting minimal development lets players fill in the blanks with their own imagined character traits. He said to wait till she's older!  Edgar why?!
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May 12, 2018 21:46
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Mega64 posted:I mean if anything Edgar should've had less development, particularly the part where he hits on ten-year-old girls. it's still real bad though
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May 12, 2018 22:16
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Yeah that line is definitely a lot less worse int he Woolsey translation. There's some ambiguity to it but it's basically just commenting on how Relm acts older than she is. The "improved" translation clears up the ambiguity and yep, he's totally a pedophile.
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May 12, 2018 22:19
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Started playing FF1 today and y'know what? It's real fuckin' fun. I'm enjoying it way more than I thought I would. Playing the PS1 version on normal difficulty, and I like how the game is kind of built around little exploratory adventures and smaller excursions before returning to town to rest up. It's very different from later games where you just go from one place to another without really worrying - this seems more about going out with a goal, then returning to town after completing it. "Okay, I want to go see what's in this one wing of this dungeon. After I go check that out, I'll return to town to rest up and buy new stuff, then head back into the dungeon to check out the other wing." Feels a little clumsy at times, but I'm really enjoying it! Definitely more than I did when I tried playing it for half an hour as a kid.
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May 12, 2018 22:37
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FF1 wears its DnD inspiration on its sleeves as well as pilfering somethings wholesale. Its also probsbly the fastest time to airship on the franchise
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Elephant Ambush posted:I'm intentionally grinding Teleport for a bit right now just because I want to see if I can kill a Fynn guard with it. Yeah I'm going to abuse save states but whatever. I forget if some enemies are immune to Teleport, but the Captains can drop Toad and IIRC nothing in FF2 is immune to Toad. Nothing. One or two enemies (golems, I think) have crazy magic defense and could potentially resist a Toad 16 tossed their way but the final boss is not one of them.
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The final boss is immune to Toad, Fluffy. It would be silly if he wasn't. what he isn't immune to is a bug where, if an enemy has the wall status, casting toad on it will "miss", but it will still play out the animation for the spell, which still removes the target from the battle. At least in the NES version, I assume they fixed it.
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Barudak posted:FF1 wears its DnD inspiration on its sleeves as well as pilfering somethings wholesale. Its also probsbly the fastest time to airship on the franchise FF3 gives you an airship after the second town. That you can't actually explore with it and have to destroy it to leave the starting area is a different story. It's also not the last time you have to destroy an airship. FF3 is weird. The NES games in general are very weird, even compared to the other later weird games in this weird series.
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Barudak posted:FF1 wears its DnD inspiration on its sleeves as well as pilfering somethings wholesale. Its also probsbly the fastest time to airship on the franchise FF1 is basically the best D&D console game ever made.
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The authentic FF1 experience
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May 13, 2018 00:53
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Mega64 posted:The authentic FF1 experience (requires Archives) Huh. I don't have archives and I can see that.
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I guess it doesn't require archives then! Archiving has been weird the past several years and didn't function at all for like a year or so, so semi-recent stuff is more likely to still be viewable.
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Also I'm coming for you
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Enjoying FF1 so far, but man I'm glad SE decided to cool it with the status effects. Feels like every other enemy poisons me with its regular attacks.
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May 13, 2018 01:53
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I took Edgar's line to Relm as God I hope you survive to adulthood because the world is going to hell
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Onmi posted:I took Edgar's line to Relm as God I hope you survive to adulthood because the world is going to hell I wish I was that optimistic
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May 13, 2018 02:11
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I hate to say it but no, Edgar's line in the Japanese version is explicitly that. "{ｴﾄﾞｶﾞｰ}「さすがに犯罪か…… やめとこう" It's something like "That'd be illegal... I better not." (He's referring to hitting on her by the way but it's still creepy as poo poo.)
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ImpAtom posted:creepy as poo poo. That's our Edgar! *laugher that quickly fades as the audience realizes the joke and makes horrified grunts and gasps*
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May 13, 2018 02:19
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Though it is a high mark for the Final Fantasy series that with fifteen main games and a bunch of side ones there's only one arguable pedophile in the entire cast.
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May 13, 2018 02:21
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Elephant Ambush posted:Every game is "easy" if you: I agree, no game has ever been easy,
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CodfishCartographer posted:Enjoying FF1 so far, but man I'm glad SE decided to cool it with the status effects. Feels like every other enemy poisons me with its regular attacks. If youre playing the original some dont work so it was even worse in its original intention. And be thankful it didnt steal some of DnDs more abusive status effects.
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corn in the bible posted:I agree, no game has ever been easy, Nothing is easy in life except posting your dumb opinions on Final Fantasy games, that's why my life is easy street.
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Also happy sixth birthday Final Fantasy thread, I'm glad one whole mainline game got released between the thread's birth and today, we're making progress.
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Mega64 posted:Though it is a high mark for the Final Fantasy series that with fifteen main games and a bunch of side ones there's only one arguable pedophile in the entire cast. Edge probably kinda seems like one to the rest of the party even if there's really no reason for him to suspect.
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Cattail Prophet posted:Edge probably kinda seems like one to the rest of the party even if there's really no reason for him to suspect. I mean, he isn't. Rydia isn't a child when she comes back. Time moves differently in the Feymarch. Rydia grew up into an adult the natrual way.
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Edge is just a useless fuckboi
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You can't grind your way past the challenges in FFXIII
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Sapozhnik posted:You can't grind your way past the challenges in FFXIII No, but you can spam death until it works
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Edgar nooooo And wow that FF1 LP owns.
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Mega64 posted:Though it is a high mark for the Final Fantasy series that with fifteen main games and a bunch of side ones there's only one arguable pedophile in the entire cast. certainly a better track record than star ocean, where a busty three-eyed alien chick in her 30s can ditch her boyfriend to pair up with a twelve year old boy Fur20 fucked around with this message at 09:24 on May 13, 2018 |
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Sapozhnik posted:You can't grind your way past the challenges in FFXIII You can't grind specifically the crystarium, but you can absolutely grind materials/money to upgrade weapons for big stat boosts. It's just gated behind the stupid FF13 upgrading system so most people don't think to do that.
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Wasn’t Rikku 15 when her cousin tried to gently caress her
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Am I misremembering and Brother loved Yuna who wasn’t 15 and also Rikku was his sister? Oops
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