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Axetrain posted:Oh I wasn't even thinking of HLLs on my Deathstrike I've always just run 2 gauss and 6 er mediums ERLLs rather than LPLs or HLLs, but yeah, the Deathstrike is barely scratched by these changes. It'll lose the slightly speedier version I prefer, and the yaw nerf will force it to play a bit more like an actual assault, but it'll still be tip-top. The EBJ and HBR will face a genuine nerf, but they're so powerful and flexible that it won't be enough to knock them off their stride. That's the core of why I don't like these changes. The top performers are hardly dented while a lot of situational and marginal Clan mechs get dumpstered. I understand that the 2HLL/4-6ERML pairing was too strong, but a lot of Clan mechs simply don't have the tonnage or hardpoints to run anything else.
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Is there any reason you couldn’t still run it but with chain fire?
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Because that would be awful? With very few exceptions, one of the defining qualities of a good build is the ability to fire weapons in tandem.
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free hubcaps posted:thanks to whoever recommended that sound effects mod awhile ago, lasers in particular sound so much better and I love that when someone somewhere on the map has a part blown up you know it Repost this please. Edit: Also, what's the thought on how to adjust the MAD-IIC? I just dropped 2 cmpls and upped the engine to a cxl380 while stripping the empty arm (so 2clpls, 4cmpls, clams, cxl380 and 18 double heat sinks), but I'm open to other thoughts. Edit 2:vv Thank you. Marathanes fucked around with this message at 21:14 on May 12, 2018 |
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May 12, 2018 21:04
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Marathanes posted:Repost this please. https://www.twitch.tv/haven_kendrick
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Skippy McPants posted:Probably 2xLPL/4xERML. The 2xERLL version runs six mediums, and that won't work anymore after the patch. The bigger question is, will this nerf put IS heavy Laser Vomit over Clans? To be fair, the 6 c-erml now runs too hot firing all 6 at once to really be useful. But that just means the extra two lasers in the hands are marginally less-useful, and you have to make more decisions about heat. This arguably makes the build worse, but I've still been ranging in the 800+ damage range 400+ match score by selectively firing the hand lasers when I can spare the heat or at the legs of lights that are too close. The build is still devastating with 2x c-erll and 4x c-erml as your main vom.
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The roughneck is also a knuckledragger and has some belt lasers, while the hellbringer has really good firing hardpoints for its laser vomit. It has longer range and has to expose less to get its lasers out, while the roughneck has to be standing out in the middle of nothing like a cowboy if it wants to use all its guns. On the reaver I just run 3LL and an HPPC and just peek with its really good energy firing points, and it does well against clan laser vomit because of the smaller profile and lower burn times.
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Just a couple mediums in the arms, otherwise the Roughneck mounts are pretty outstanding. The Hellbringer's are better though.
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Do any of the Roughnecks do PPCs ok? I have a 2A with heavy gauss and powerhouse so I think I want some more of these bad boys.
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TheKingslayer posted:Do any of the Roughnecks do PPCs ok? I have a 2A with heavy gauss and powerhouse so I think I want some more of these bad boys. eh RGH-3A
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Waaay too hot. You can do Heavy PPCs on an RGH, but usually, you want to run them on faster JJ capable mechs that can poptart and keep outside the minimum range. PPCs are mostly done as a weapon system on larger heavies and assaults, except for mechs specifically quirked to do the job like the WHK.
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free hubcaps posted:thanks to whoever recommended that sound effects mod awhile ago, lasers in particular sound so much better and I love that when someone somewhere on the map has a part blown up you know it Yeah seconding this. Is it in the op?
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Oop, they dun blinked. https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/995396953738375169 Maybe they'll at least give it a run on the test server first. Like I said, I do agree that the HLL and Clan Medium need tweaking, but I'd really rather they find something less hamfisted for a solution. Edit: 'nerds' is a typo. He means 'nerfs'.
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So what's the annihilator to buy now? Considering the 2a got nerfed (maybe?). Sale + c-bills etc. I would comment about the mismanagement of the situation but as I have noted before, I play Magic: the Gathering.
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THE BLACK NINJA posted:So what's the annihilator to buy now? Considering the 2a got nerfed (maybe?). Sale + c-bills etc. I still like my 1X for the quad LB10X build.
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THE BLACK NINJA posted:So what's the annihilator to buy now? Considering the 2a got nerfed (maybe?). Sale + c-bills etc. The ANH will still have a shitload of armor and anyone with a brain knows to aim for side torsos anyways. The 2a will still be the UAC go-to.
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I just logged on to see what's new and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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So, is there another good starter mech other than the Hellbringer in case of nerfs? Preferably IS so I can do my canopian pretty periphery princess cosplay. I bought the solaris 7 pack and have enjoyed the rifleman if that helps at all.
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The HBR will still be good, even if the current round of nerfs go through, but if you want a reliable IS heavy then you can't go wrong with a Warhammer (6R or 6D).
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Killer, I'll check that out. What about mediums?
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Your Solaris Rifleman with LB10Xs ain't bad if you want to build on that.
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Fuuuuuuck I just got beaten by this guy in Solaris in a Rotary AC/2 Marauder 4 rounds in a row with my shotgun (LBX-20 and 3x SRM6) Orion IIC. I guess it sucks  I can poo poo out damage and assists in Quick Play but 1v1, nope.
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The Orion IIC is a brawly monster, but it isn't the best dualist. Not awful or anything, but those torsos easy to target and hard to shield and once that LT comes off its DPS drops to zilch.
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Skippy McPants posted:The Orion IIC is a brawly monster, but it isn't the best dualist. Not awful or anything, but those torsos easy to target and hard to shield and once that LT comes off its DPS drops to zilch. Yeah, he'd blow off my LT and I'd be down to a pea shooter. What heavy should I look at to get revenge on Division 2?
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Uhh, I 'unno. I don't have the divisions memorized, nor the game even installed right now cause I got a new computer and am lazy. Can't you just look at the leaderboard and steal whatever mech/build has the best win rates?
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The biggest surprise to someone returning after quitting practically during launch week is the presence of trial mechs that aren't worthy only of contempt, I gotta say.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Yeah, he'd blow off my LT and I'd be down to a pea shooter. What heavy should I look at to get revenge on Division 2? Try the Warhawk with 2 LBX20s and 3 SRM 6s. I saw a video of someone wrecking poo poo with it in Solaris.
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I mean the biggest change really, is that the annihilator is getting actually quite a hefty nerf, -8 per torso location on the 2A. Given it's entire modus operandi is "facetank the enemy and shoot them with all the guns until they are dead" that's quite a lot.
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Psykmoe posted:The biggest surprise to someone returning after quitting practically during launch week is the presence of trial mechs that aren't worthy only of contempt, I gotta say. They rotated the trial mechs about a month ago. The previous batch was a lot better. This current crop is mostly rubbish. Drone_Fragger posted:I mean the biggest change really, is that the annihilator is getting actually quite a hefty nerf, -8 per torso location on the 2A. Given it's entire modus operandi is "facetank the enemy and shoot them with all the guns until they are dead" that's quite a lot. They only nerfed the 2A and 1X. The 1A's quirks are intact and it can fit top level meta builds, so people will just transition over and keep on truckin'. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 19:55 on May 13, 2018 |
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Skippy McPants posted:They rotated the trial mechs about a month ago. The previous batch was a lot better. This current crop is mostly rubbish. I played the Stormcrow and the Shadow Cat and they seemed alright. I just remembered during launch I was like "I've got to grind how many loving games in these awful trial mechs or my unmodded Founders before I can afford to tinker in the mechlab or, god forbid, buy a mech?" And then invested my time some other way. So having at least some competent trial mechs and the big Cadet games C-bill bonus at the start feels like a huge step up, haha. And Tyler Too! posted:Don't forget having to spend those cbills to repair the mechs between games. That's what drove me off initially. I was wondering about that, but I wasn't sure if I remembered correctly. Psykmoe fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 13, 2018 |
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Don't forget having to spend those cbills to repair the mechs between games. That's what drove me off initially.
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And Tyler Too! posted:Don't forget having to spend those cbills to repair the mechs between games. That's what drove me off initially. that was some what offset by the free top up to 3/4 ammo if you didnt buy any more if I remember right... got that tip here 
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Oh boy, the days of repairing mechs, dark times. If you used an xl engine, good luck making any money because the repair fees we're insane. Glad they deleted that particular "feature".
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And Tyler Too! posted:Don't forget having to spend those cbills to repair the mechs between games. That's what drove me off initially. I mean you pay for coolshots, right? Kind of the same thing.
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There is zero requirement for the use of any consumables, whereas you can't help dying sometimes.
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Put a uac20, 2 mrm30s and a large pulse (hmm) on a an atlas d. So much fun. Assaults just vanish. Its amazing.
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Yeah, the old repair bill mechanic essentially punished you doubly when you lost a match. Not only did you make less money, but you also had to pay more to get in shape for the next fight. It also incentivized gameplay where you took the least amount of damage possible while doing the most, which is lame - the game has enough risk averse LRM/sniping/long range players without a mechanic that reinforces it.
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Since it was on sale for 40% off c-bills I bought an Annihilator 1X. I had a light 280 in inventory so I slapped that in. It does a glacial 45 kph, but with light ferro armor I can pack 4x LB10X and three ERMLs. Just barely enough ammo. The thing crushes... too bad I still suck though.
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