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I can point you to FaceBook posts by these folks where they claim the left-wing in the USA is the real problem and that the alt-right is nothing to worry about. quote:Two years ago, it was still a toss-up: which side would mainstream anti-Semitism first, the left or the right? My reply: You didn’t hear the “they stopped too soon” story I guess. https://shareblue.com/america-first-policies-juan-pablo-andrade-nazi-comments/ Response? quote:Yeah ok. But he's not mainstream.
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May 13, 2018 07:56
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Reminder that the US embassy will be moving to Jerusalem tomorrow. Not that I wish to distract from the eurovision fun or anything.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I wonder if they'll manage to convince the EBA to host it in Jerusalem, and how many countries will boycott it if they do. You mean like in 1979 and 1999? Given that there is no rule that it has to be in the capital of the host country (Germany hosted in Düsseldorf and Frankfurt, Sweden in Malmö, UK in Birmingham) I don't think the venue will be all that controversial.
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Grape posted:You were this close to letting Cyprus win Europe, and you chose the insanely stupid Israeli act instead. Congratulations to the genocidal terrorist nation winning Eurovision. In good company
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May 13, 2018 11:43
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Well we are talking about a European contest, it's not like those guys are strangers to colonialism and genocide.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Reminder that the US embassy will be moving to Jerusalem tomorrow. Not that I wish to distract from the eurovision fun or anything.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I find it hard to believe, considering how fast they rushed this move, that it will be nearly secure enough. Who knows, maybe a Palestinian will agressively die near the new embassy.
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It's loving not though, is it. It's the consulate which has always been there, and the sign is changing from 'consulate' to 'embassy' and is getting a few more staff. Literally nothing of any value is happening except the dumb symbolism that the right loves.
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Lmao https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/995750216467910658?s=19 Hasn't been announced whether they will be changing their colors to orange.
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Yet another reason (as if there was a need for another) to be a fan of Ha-Po'el instead.
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Horrible Lurkbeast posted:Yet another reason (as if there was a need for another) to be a fan of Ha-Po'el instead. That logo loving rules!
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How's that for an iconic photo? https://twitter.com/shadirahimi/status/995862720292384768?s=20
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Miftan posted:It's loving not though, is it. It's the consulate which has always been there, and the sign is changing from 'consulate' to 'embassy' and is getting a few more staff. Literally nothing of any value is happening except the dumb symbolism that the right loves.
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Xander77 posted:If it was anyone other than Trump, I'd naturally assume that with the upgrade to "embassy", there will be a new and less lovely building involved. With Trump, I'm surprised they didn't make a new and more lovely building. I guess Trump just doesn't have any friends in construction in Israel.
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Volkerball posted:How's that for an iconic photo? Dang
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18 Palestinians killed in mass protests all across the Gaza border https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/u-s-embassy-gaza-protests-and-nakba-day-live-updates-1.6078190 (so far, as things are progressing the number is sure to grow significantly before the day ends)
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Wikipedia has a big article on them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Gaza_border_protests Though today's protests are a little different I guess, today is both the Nakba memorial day and of course there's the whole American Embassy move, the protests today were certainly larger than the previous ones with a reported 35,000 protesters showing up.
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bit disgusting having this self congratulatory ceremony when your border forces are currently engaged in a massacre imho
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Oh wow, I thought those death tolls were for all the protests of the last month. Edit - I've read there is some gunfire coming from the protestors and Hamas really wants to breach the border. Are they tying to get people shot at this point? pro starcraft loser fucked around with this message at 14:29 on May 14, 2018 |
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pro starcraft loser posted:Oh wow, I thought those death tolls were for all the protests of the last month. It’s loving disgusting and nobody will do anything about it.
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As the blood of martyrs waters the fields of Palestine...
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The Israeli government just feels empowered to slaughter with impunity.
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mcmagic posted:The Israeli government just feels empowered to slaughter with impunity.
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Whats the casualty toll right now?
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FlamingLiberal posted:Why wouldn’t they? Who is going to intervene? I’m surprised this hasn’t happened sooner. Yeah, no one.
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lollontee posted:Whats the casualty toll right now? 41 last I saw.
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That's dead, there's 1900+ wounded too
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NLJP posted:That's dead, there's 1900+ wounded too The idea that a "first world" "liberal" democracy can just fire indiscriminately into large crowds of protesters and get away with it is just beyond shocking and depressing.
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mcmagic posted:The idea that a "first world" "liberal" democracy can just fire indiscriminately into large crowds of protesters and get away with it is just beyond shocking and depressing. I hate to break this to you, but most colonization and oppression of people happened under British and French democracies. Belgium was a semi-parliamentary democracy when king leopold was given the congo and proceeded to murder ten million people. This shouldnt be a shock to you. Also, Israel isnt a liberal democracy it's a racial apartheid colonialist state, big difference. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 15:55 on May 14, 2018 |
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Al-Saqr posted:I hate to break this to you, but most colonization and oppression of people happened under British and French democracies. Belgium was a semi-parliamentary democracy when king leopold was given the congo and proceeded to murder ten million people. This shouldnt be a shock to you. Also, Israel isnt a liberal democracy it's a racial apartheid colonialist state, big difference. I understand all this but it's also 2018 and not 1918. This stuff shouldn't be a part of the civilized world in 2018. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 16:07 on May 14, 2018 |
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mcmagic posted:I understand all this but it's also 2018 and not 1918. This stuff shouldn't be a party of the civilized world in 2018. Sorry but it is, Israel is an inherently uncivilized project of racial and apartheid barbarism from the get go and have been armed, funded and rewarded for that behavior nonstop, there’s literally no incentive for them to change behaviors because they’ve never been punished for it. This is why Israel has to be forced to change into a true one state democracy or completely leave Palestine under the duress of extreme sanctions or force. Which unfortunately aren’t on the table right now, on top of that because the backbone of support for the Palestinians, the Arab people, are currently been defeated and genocided and dehumanized under fascist occupation. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 16:11 on May 14, 2018 |
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Wikipedia has a big article on them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Gaza_border_protests You gotta admire the flair in choosing to move the embassy on this particular date. It has to be deliberate. mcmagic posted:The idea that a "first world" "liberal" democracy can just fire indiscriminately into large crowds of protesters and get away with it is just beyond shocking and depressing. Israel is pretty much the definition of an ethnocracy. Many notable Israeli scholars, such as Oren Yiftachel or Shlomo Sand recognize it as such. Israel is only a democracy if you belong to the "right" ethnic group.
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Al-Saqr posted:I hate to break this to you, but most colonization and oppression of people happened under British and French democracies. Belgium was a semi-parliamentary democracy when king leopold was given the congo and proceeded to murder ten million people. This shouldnt be a shock to you. Also, Israel isnt a liberal democracy it's a racial apartheid colonialist state, big difference. Al-Saqr posted:Sorry but it is, Israel is an inherently uncivilized project of racial and apartheid barbarism from the get go and have been armed, funded and rewarded for that behavior nonstop, there’s literally no incentive for them to change behaviors because they’ve never been punished for it. This is why Israel has to be forced to change into a true one state democracy or completely leave Palestine under the duress of extreme sanctions or force. Which unfortunately aren’t on the table right now, on top of that because the backbone of support for the Palestinians, the Arab people, are currently been defeated and genocided and dehumanized under fascist occupation. Bingo!
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pro starcraft loser posted:Oh wow, I thought those death tolls were for all the protests of the last month. Hamas alone can't muster tens of thousands of civilians to charge into literal loving gunfire from uniformed troops. This is grassroots. And where have you read about the protesters having guns? I haven't seen any mention of that.
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Main Paineframe posted:Hamas alone can't muster tens of thousands of civilians to charge into literal loving gunfire from uniformed troops. This is grassroots. And where have you read about the protesters having guns? I haven't seen any mention of that. The repated assertion that Gazans are mindless puppets of Hamas is insanely racist too.
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