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Lathespin.gif posted:read the entire thread, didn't see this posted yet: This is beyond hysterical and needs to be in the OP and/or the new thread title.
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mossyfisk posted:Brian Herbert I can at least understand, he owns it, but what the gently caress is KJA doing? He’s basically BH’s twisted mentat, except one that is retarded
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May 13, 2018 18:37
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mossyfisk posted:Brian Herbert I can at least understand, he owns it, but what the gently caress is KJA doing? Money money money.
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priznat posted:He’s basically BH’s twisted mentat, except one that is retarded What’s the reverse of a mentat? A Tatnem? One who cultivates the “real fuckin dumb, just so dumb” mind?
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May 13, 2018 19:16
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Lathespin.gif posted:read the entire thread, didn't see this posted yet: This is literally perfect, from the garbage bag still suits to the sock puppet worms to the outro song.
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May 13, 2018 19:19
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Zopotantor posted:This is literally perfect, from the garbage bag still suits to the sock puppet worms to the outro song. People, don't skip this over. It is really really goddamn good.
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May 13, 2018 19:29
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I wish to hell that when they found Frank's stolen journals they had been chased and devoured by D-wolves.
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May 13, 2018 19:54
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mossyfisk posted:Brian Herbert I can at least understand, he owns it, but what the gently caress is KJA doing? villeneuve said the other day: quote:Eric Roth has written the first draft and then I worked on it on my side. I have not had such fun creatively since Incendies! I wish I could direct both movies at the same time but it would have been too expensive. We'll do them one at a time. https://twitter.com/DuneAuthor/status/995133739398123520
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May 13, 2018 19:56
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Argh, shut UP Brian Herbert.
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May 13, 2018 19:57
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May 13, 2018 19:59
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sure brian, please make all the comments you'd like. we're definitely interested in how your ideas can help improve the script etc. etc. etc.
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May 13, 2018 20:00
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Zopotantor posted:This is literally perfect, from the garbage bag still suits to the sock puppet worms to the outro song. Yeah, I came rushing in here to tell you the lame Dune joke I made at work today, but I got nothing on that video. pro-click as gently caress Happy Reverend Mothers Day! (that wasn't the joke, that one fell even flatter in a crowd of non-Dune-loving heretics)
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May 13, 2018 21:55
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Happy Reverend Mothers Day! I bet you felt like a gom jabroni
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Communist Walrus posted:I bet you felt like a gom jabroni 
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GBS>DUNE thread: Choam Gang and gom jabronis
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May 14, 2018 18:27
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MC Hawking posted:This is beyond hysterical and needs to be in the OP and/or the new thread title. the thumper at 2:55 is fantastic.
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May 14, 2018 20:10
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Lathespin.gif posted:read the entire thread, didn't see this posted yet: Balloonen Harkonnen.
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May 14, 2018 21:40
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I never read the lovely prequels but I've only read the main books in a mindset of being vaguely aware that lovely prequels concerning a robot war existed. I get that the original idea of the Butlerian Jihad was way more nuanced and introspective than "stop the evil robots and their pewpew lasers before they throw more babies off of balconies," but was there really no fighting at all, and it was just some social movement where everyone threw their smartphones on the ground?
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May 14, 2018 23:02
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:I never read the lovely prequels but I've only read the main books in a mindset of being vaguely aware that lovely prequels concerning a robot war existed. I get that the original idea of the Butlerian Jihad was way more nuanced and introspective than "stop the evil robots and their pewpew lasers before they throw more babies off of balconies," but was there really no fighting at all, and it was just some social movement where everyone threw their smartphones on the ground? I always imagined there was tons of infighting and civil war-style stuff going on as the tech nerds resisted the luddites you think 2nd Amendment lunatics are bad imagine if the world governments collectively decided to ban computers and phones
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May 14, 2018 23:08
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It was the Butlerian Jihad, not the Butlerian Peaceful Awakening.
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May 14, 2018 23:10
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I'm pretty sure the original book says the whole reason the Harkonnens hate the Atreides is because of a betrayal during a battle during the jihad, so there was for sure some actual fighting.
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May 14, 2018 23:15
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And what religion are the normal people in the universe as of the first book? "Orange Catholic?" Sorry if the last question was dumb, this one's always confused me. Like, are they mostly various types of Islamo-buddhist, just not Zensunni or Zensufi?
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May 14, 2018 23:20
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Yeah Orange Catholic, probably. I always interpreted it to mean that most of the ‘civilized’ cosmopolitan universe was mostly philosophically or socially religious (like a ‘Christmas and easter’ thing), and one of Frank’s points is how united the Fremen were because they still had a religion that was deeply and honesty felt and that they were passionate about. I could be wrong about the religiousness of everyone else, though. Yueh’s wife, for example, seems to have read the OCBible a lot.
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May 14, 2018 23:26
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I'm pretty sure the actual details of those religions were left deliberately vague.
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May 14, 2018 23:27
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:And what religion are the normal people in the universe as of the first book? "Orange Catholic?" Sorry if the last question was dumb, this one's always confused me. Like, are they mostly various types of Islamo-buddhist, just not Zensunni or Zensufi? I think it's mostly Zensunni; the Orange Catholic Bible isn't there because Catholicism still exists. It's just something people of most faiths read. I think what Frank Herbert was playing at is that most major religions of today melded together into some weird combination of them all. Vincent Van Goatse posted:I'm pretty sure the actual details of those religions were left deliberately vague. Plus, you know, that. He doesn't really talk about specifics just that some fragments of contemporary religions survived. How it's all organized he never actually says.
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May 14, 2018 23:28
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Orange Catholic was literally the most ecumenical thing you could think of in 1965, where for most English speakers, I say "religious turmoil" and you say "Ireland" and not "the middle East". The appendix to dune makes it obvious, but Yueh asks Paul to read a Kalima, which is an instructive text in Islam. OC is meant to encompass Christianity, Islam, Hinduism Buddism and other religions.
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May 14, 2018 23:33
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I think it's mostly Zensunni; the Orange Catholic Bible isn't there because Catholicism still exists. It's just something people of most faiths read. I think what Frank Herbert was playing at is that most major religions of today melded together into some weird combination of them all. Well of course it's not "Catholics" like today. The only religion that still exists in a completely recognizable form and isn't a weird mishmash is Judaism.
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May 14, 2018 23:33
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You are all forgetting about the Space Jews.
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May 14, 2018 23:34
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I really love that the Jews are the ones who survive 10,000 years of poor recordkeeping and such, it does keep with the history of the religion TBH.
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May 14, 2018 23:35
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I also noted how while the entire series is like, Arabian-esque and focused on Space Bedouins who practice Space Islam, how the Bene Tielaxu are sort of coded as "The Bad Kind of Arabs" which rubbed me as a sort of awkward, especially with their pointlessly hosed up lady-vats. I'd unironically like a chairdog, though.
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May 14, 2018 23:38
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:Well of course it's not "Catholics" like today. The only religion that still exists in a completely recognizable form and isn't a weird mishmash is Judaism. Also, the word "catholic" means universal or all-encompassing, which would be an appropriate name for a religion designed to incorporate many/all existing religions: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/catholic
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May 14, 2018 23:48
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loving chairdogs and space jews, man i always forget how deep the weird hole gets with frank herbert
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Liquid Dinosaur posted:I also noted how while the entire series is like, Arabian-esque and focused on Space Bedouins who practice Space Islam, how the Bene Tielaxu are sort of coded as "The Bad Kind of Arabs" which rubbed me as a sort of awkward, especially with their pointlessly hosed up lady-vats. the lady vats werent actually a thing until the kja/bh books right? i always liked the ambiguity there.
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:the lady vats werent actually a thing until the kja/bh books right? i always liked the ambiguity there. Unless I'm insane and suffering from memory osmosis from the wiki articles I read, I'm fairly certain the lady-vats were a thing in the last two books. I vaguely recall how during the very tenuous alliance the Tielaxu and Bene Gesseret had versus the Honored Matres, that the Tielaxu were trying to get a Reverend Mother to convert into a tank. Really not sure how that stayed a secret for so long, though. They were the hosed up biotech provider for like, 15,000 years. Just like Ix was the place for high tech gadgets. And Richese was the place for gadgets that were probably pretty cool too but not as good as Ix so nobody cares about them  .
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:the lady vats werent actually a thing until the kja/bh books right? i always liked the ambiguity there. Nope, the axlotl tanks were a Frank idea. I dunno about the Tleilaxu being coded as Arabs, though. I'm not sure there's a good cultural analogue for them.
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exmachina posted:Orange Catholic was literally the most ecumenical thing you could think of in 1965, where for most English speakers, I say "religious turmoil" and you say "Ireland" and not "the middle East". The appendix to dune makes it obvious, but Yueh asks Paul to read a Kalima, which is an instructive text in Islam. OC is meant to encompass Christianity, Islam, Hinduism Buddism and other religions. Herbert was raised a Catholic, iirc, so that makes sense. He'd know that the Catholic Church means the "Universal Church". Communist Walrus posted:Nope, the axlotl tanks were a Frank idea. I dunno about the Tleilaxu being coded as Arabs, though. I'm not sure there's a good cultural analogue for them. They call their religion the "Shariat". However their leader has a Welsh name.
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welp, you guys were right. grossheretics posted:"The axlotl tanks! He remembered emerging time after time: bright lights and padded mechanical hands. The hands rotated him and, in the unfocused blurs of the newborn, he saw a great mound of female flesh — monstrous in her almost immobile grossness ... a maze of dark tubes linked her body to giant metal containers".
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BIG MEATY SHITS posted:welp, you guys were right. gross the logical conclusion of The Handmaid's Tale
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Arven posted:I'm pretty sure the original book says the whole reason the Harkonnens hate the Atreides is because of a betrayal during a battle during the jihad, so there was for sure some actual fighting. Not even that. An Atreides called out a Harkonnen for cowardice after the Battle of Corrin (the Imperial House is named for that battle so it must have been huge).
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Don't forget that the latterday Tleilaxu also swim in a big pond full of semen and jack off together.
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