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Zasze posted:They start weak but really shine mid campaign do you have a chaos spawn yet? Nah, that was the two first rights in a gang war.
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# ? May 14, 2018 14:07 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 06:51 |
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Crosspostin'! Here, have a bunch of details about Titanicus from someone who was at Warhammer Fest: quote:Adeptus Titanicus
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# ? May 14, 2018 15:41 |
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Safety Factor posted:Crosspostin'! take me now
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# ? May 14, 2018 16:02 |
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Jesus christ, I'm applying for the loan as I type. I am buying all of this. ALL OF IT. Edit: Have they said when we can expect to pre-order?
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# ? May 14, 2018 16:42 |
Philthy posted:Jesus christ, I'm applying for the loan as I type. I am buying all of this. ALL OF IT. It will be late July/early August. GW never do preorders longer than 2 weeks.
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# ? May 14, 2018 17:31 |
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Thundercloud posted:It will be late July/early August. GW never do preorders longer than 2 weeks. Good to know. I'll have to actually pay attention or set up stupid alarms on my phone or something. Philthy fucked around with this message at 21:03 on May 14, 2018 |
# ? May 14, 2018 19:35 |
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Sounds rad as hell
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# ? May 14, 2018 20:25 |
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The breakdown makes it look like the terminals required to play are sold separately from the models.
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# ? May 14, 2018 20:25 |
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Yeah, it's a dick move. I mean, the terminals in the base box can tide you over for the initial buy, but not for long! Also, told ya the knights are gonna be destroyers.
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# ? May 14, 2018 20:36 |
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That game sounds super fun, specialist games is killing it with both rules and models recently.
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# ? May 14, 2018 21:02 |
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Ohh boy, at this scale we could see the various Ordinati that existed in the Heresy era as well.
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# ? May 14, 2018 21:06 |
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GW, I'm sorry for all the mean things I said to you all this years... Nah, I'm not, but please take my money.
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# ? May 14, 2018 22:24 |
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JcDent posted:Yeah, it's a dick move. I mean, the terminals in the base box can tide you over for the initial buy, but not for long! BFG was based off of the titan rules from one of the old editions of Epic, so it all comes full circle.
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# ? May 14, 2018 22:46 |
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This looks really promising and sounds like it has more than a little in common with Battletech (alternate movement followed by alternate shooting, running your engines hot to get more actions out of a unit), but that's totally my jam. I think it's beyond my budget at the moment though.
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# ? May 15, 2018 00:54 |
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That all sounds pretty cool. I scraped up some old epic armageddon titans, so I've got a minimum battleline maniple (ish): Lucius warlord Reaver (it's resin?) two warhounds (they're funky resin type things that are bulky and blocky and totally my kind of stompy robit). Just need rules and terrain (I'm a bit uncaring about the scale poo poo right now - maybe these are archeotech robots or whatever, just so long as it looks cool on the table). I guess I would want the basic box, and then buy separately a bunch of terrain/boards maybe (probably not a problem at my local gaming club, I hope, so maybe I wouldn't need terrain). Alternate activation is the best bit, I'm really coming to enjoy that sort of game (although Infinity is good as an IGOUGO as that whole ARO thing gives opponents poo poo to do during turns anyways). mcjomar fucked around with this message at 10:44 on May 15, 2018 |
# ? May 15, 2018 08:30 |
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mcjomar posted:Alternate activation is the best bit, I'm really coming to enjoy that sort of game (although Infinity is good as an IGOUGO as that whole ARO thing gives opponents poo poo to do during turns anyways). "Four shots of BS 2 vs. your two at BS 9? I'll take the odds!" *comes in 12th in an 18 player tournament*
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# ? May 15, 2018 11:09 |
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JcDent posted:"Four shots of BS 2 vs. your two at BS 9? I'll take the odds!" You're not wrong. For my tastes I still prefer that situation to some of what I've experienced in 40k (6th and 7th). Is 8th any better?
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# ? May 15, 2018 12:00 |
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You misunderstand, that wasn't criticism, and I'm the first guy in that situation. My Sierra bot has never met odds he wouldn't challenge. Meanwhile, 8th edition 40k is maybe less bad than 7e, but it's bad in exciting new ways that makes the game feel really bland. The good things are: AP is a modifier instead of all-or-nothing Vehicles aren't uniquely fragile anymore when compared to MCs WS/BS are now just static numbers Heavy weapons and Unwieldy are now only -1 to hit. Bad: Pretty much everything else, especially replacing USRs with a bajillion snoflake rules that do the same Vehicles are now basically MCs, which means facings don't matter and weapons donxt get destroyed Mortal Wounds are a thing that cuts though all saves and whatever, and it's horrible Morale rules are the worst.
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# ? May 15, 2018 13:57 |
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JcDent posted:Morale rules are the worst. The morale rules are a big improvement through? I like that you only lose some guys, rather than the old situation where either you are totally/functionally immune to morale, or you lose one guy to shooting and an unlucky leadership test causes the whole unit to flee. As a former WHFB guy the number of guys dying directly impacting the test feels right.
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# ? May 15, 2018 14:04 |
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I just dislike the whole "a dude dies in sympathy, the others keep on trucking" instead of routing or whatever. It's even worse in Sigmar, where most battles are two armies getting locked in the middle of the table until one runs out of dude. Not saying that the last one was flawless - what kind of insanity relegates pinning to a special rule only a handful of units get - but that's GW rule writing.
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# ? May 15, 2018 14:15 |
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While I can definitely understand wanting to cut down the amount of leadership tests (a unit in 7th could easily take 3+ tests between the shooting and assault phases), I 'm not a fan of the current implementation. I liked the fact that units could retreat off of objectives or other important positions. It added a little dynamism that is lacking in 8th. Well, I'm coming from a 30k perspective; leadership was almost never an issue in 7th edition 40k. The penalties for regrouping were a little too harsh, however, and I'd like to see those lessened somewhat.
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# ? May 15, 2018 14:35 |
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JcDent posted:"Four shots of BS 2 vs. your two at BS 9? I'll take the odds!" What wrecked me this weekend was good use of mass activations with Van Saar, who are already a low-model high individual power force.
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# ? May 15, 2018 14:59 |
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JcDent posted:You misunderstand, that wasn't criticism, and I'm the first guy in that situation. My bad. JcDent posted:Meanwhile, 8th edition 40k is maybe less bad than 7e, but it's bad in exciting new ways that makes the game feel really bland. So I guess not much has changed since the last time I asked about 8th then (before they brought out the last year or so of FAQs and codexes). Mortal wounds always sounded bad to begin with, and facings and weapon destroyed events were the good part of GW vehicles. I'm honestly surprised that morale rules are worse now though, and JcDent posted:I just dislike the whole "a dude dies in sympathy, the others keep on trucking" instead of routing or whatever. Morale rules have always been a bit iffy for GW though from my perspective. I really need to take time to play 8th at some point for myself. I've got a Guard force for that task. In the meantime though, Necromunda continues to be awesome, and a massive improvement over previous editions. How bizarre. I've also had a quick glance through the net.Epic Armageddon rules, and if I wanted to find any way to actually put my E:A titan minis on the table I'd have to go ebay bargain hunting for suitable forces for a Guard regiment (and then find an opponent to play E:A with). It's not cheap... I guess those minis will either be sold, or become dust gathering display pieces. Pity. I really like the E:A resin Warhound and metal Warlord minis (I've never liked any iteration of the Reaver, but the E:A resin version is the one I dislike the least).
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# ? May 15, 2018 15:44 |
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Car parks are starting to be a problem again in 40k sadly. Also leadership has again become worthless.
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# ? May 15, 2018 16:00 |
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Guess there won't be any mixing and matching with Epic and AT...
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# ? May 15, 2018 16:24 |
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There was no reason for GW to worry about making the old Adeptus Titanicus or Epic miniatures compatible with the new version. There are people old enough to vote now who were born after GW stopped supporting Epic.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:05 |
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This is why "god you nerds it's only 2mm" was so hilariously dumb.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:13 |
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Th position on using old titans in new AT is so dumb its making me agree with guy good body
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:15 |
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moths posted:This is why "god you nerds it's only 2mm" was so hilariously dumb. I think you'll find that its actually the people bitching over the size difference for an entirely different game are the ones that are hilariously dumb
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:15 |
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Personally I see no reason or gain in that model being larger, other than forcing me to re-buy my army from when I was a child. This is an outrage.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:34 |
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berzerkmonkey posted:
This is clearly a tiny scale increase just to spite old modellers. That model has no extra detail whatsoever.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:37 |
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Lol people playing with their old Trash Titans when these new ones blow them away in quality. Especially when they are 2 decades old. Maybe OK to upgrade your stuff every decade or so?
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:38 |
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Booley posted:an entirely different game The stated reason for the scale change was that the infantry models look better. (Hint: There is no infantry in AT.)
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:40 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:There was no reason for GW to worry about making the old Adeptus Titanicus or Epic miniatures compatible with the new version. There are people old enough to vote now who were born after GW stopped supporting Epic. This is the correct answer. Also, that picture shows why making it Epic compatible would be the worst possible mistake. Epic scale was all hosed up and inconsistent between models. loving lol if you think the model on the right in that pic is a proper 6mm scale Titan and that's the real difference between 6mm and 8mm in practice. If the Titan on the right was properly sized then that means normal troops in Epic are like 20 feet tall.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:41 |
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moths posted:This is why "god you nerds it's only 2mm" was so hilariously dumb. That's not a 6mm/8mm scale differential though? It's more like 6mm/15mm if you take the old warlord as being the "correct" size. It's more like the old warlord is an undersized scrunt and you should use it as a Warhound instead.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:41 |
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Imagine being pissed that models that went out of production during the Clinton administration aren't supported in a game coming out this year.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:42 |
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moths posted:The stated reason for the scale change was that the infantry models look better. Yes but they wanted the option to expand without having to make it compatible with a hosed up 30 year old game that didn't have things scaled properly.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:43 |
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Can we expect to see Adeptis Titanicus stuff in the July White Dwarf or likely not to show anything, price or otherwise, until the August magazine? It's been so long since I've done any gw I'm out of the loop with how they do things these days. Also need to start practicing painting again...how is Shadespire in terms of game quality?
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:44 |
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Tiny Chalupa posted:Can we expect to see Adeptis Titanicus stuff in the July White Dwarf or likely not to show anything, price or otherwise, until the August magazine? I don't know about AT previews in upcoming White Dwarf, but Shadespire is cool, good, and quick to learn and play. It's not just a good GW game, it's a fantastic skirmish game by any measure.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:45 |
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I'd be the first in line to replace my Epic figures with better looking ones, my problem is that this is almost guaranteed to lose steam before they get to non-Imperial factions. So new Epic will either not happen at all or eventually fall to the same limited faction issue that killed Warmaster, BFG, and E40k:A. And then we're left with pretty models that look stupid fighting Clinton era relics.
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# ? May 15, 2018 17:46 |