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Bakanogami posted:Just spent the last few days reading through Tensei Shoujo no Rirekisho. It's good! It reminds me of a kinda more serious and extreme Ascendance of a Bookworm, especially the later parts.
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I've been reading the novel version of Only Sense Online lately and wanted to check how far along the web novel version was, when I found this recent post by the authorquote:書籍版が徐々にWeb版に追いつき、そう遠くない未来に書籍版が追い越す可能性があります。 e: this seems to be the relevant part of the rules Basically, Narou doesn't want to be abused as an advertising platform for published novels, so you aren't allowed to - Keep the first few volumes online, then say "now buy the novel if you want to know how the story ends". - Delete the parts of your story that have been released in novel form (or replace them with summaries). Diverging the stories enough that they aren't compatible with each other anymore seems to be a trick to get around that. Tamba fucked around with this message at 18:24 on May 13, 2018 |
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Jackard posted:The reviews are complaining that everyone aside from the MC is really lazy and stupid, is this accurate? Yes, but that’s a fairly major plot point that has in-universe reasons. The non-magic using peasants have spent hundreds of years being completely ruled over by the wizard nobles, who banned access to education and essentially treated peasants like livestock. Magic is used in the manufacture of every single product, and this most peasants are reduced to a state where they expect the nobles to do basically everything and don’t realize what they are capable of themselves. This is especially bad at the beginning of the story when the MC is in a remote farming village. It’s basically one step past the Stone Age, and everyone’s an idiot. Later on it’s just fine, but I guess some reviewers couldn’t get past that point. The MC struggling to overturn this line of thinking, educate the masses, and show that it’s possible to create things without magic is basically the central conflict of the novel.
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What's worse than a WN with terrible translations? A WN with terrible translations and terrible writing. Overgeared managed to hit both these marks, being a half-assed translation at a half-assed attempt at the Korean VRMMO genre. An unlikable MC, dull plot, and a translation that reads like it has been run through Google translation with minimum editing, it just doesn't get good enough for me to continue past chapter 30. Despite this, there's over 500 chapters of this garbage translated. I'd rather read Qidian Xianxia trash, as it's more coherent than what Wuxia World is offering.
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Speaking of lovely translations and Korean MMOs, did The Tutorial Is Too Hard go back to having a good translator or is someone still making GBS threads out MTLs for it because it was sort-of popular?
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jwang posted:What's worse than a WN with terrible translations? A WN with terrible translations and terrible writing. Overgeared managed to hit both these marks, being a half-assed translation at a half-assed attempt at the Korean VRMMO genre. An unlikable MC, dull plot, and a translation that reads like it has been run through Google translation with minimum editing, it just doesn't get good enough for me to continue past chapter 30. Despite this, there's over 500 chapters of this garbage translated. I'd rather read Qidian Xianxia trash, as it's more coherent than what Wuxia World is offering. Hey Cultivation Chat Group is on Qidian and it's still amazing.
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Cultivation Chat Group is like the 1% of the Xianxia genre, so it's in its own category. I'm talking about the general murder-hobo stories, where the go-to resolution to any problem is the kill the poo poo out of anyone that looks at you cross-eyed.
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May 15, 2018 18:34
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qidian doesn't just do xianxia. they have equal numbers of wn's that are about women stealing bodies so they can marry royalty.
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For the heck of it, I went through a few months' worth of manga adaptations, and it seems isekai is pretty popular these days:
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Apparently Webnovel dot com (Qidian) released a new platform last month for releasing English original web novels. There’s the normal version where you just use it as a platform for your story, keep the copyright, and might get paid some pittance if you’re lucky, and then there’s a contract version where you sign over the copyright, get paid a minimum of 400 dollars a month (more if you’re popular), oh and their minimum monthly word output is 120,000. 120,000 words. Per. Month.
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Jon Joe posted:Apparently Webnovel dot com (Qidian) released a new platform last month for releasing English original web novels. There’s the normal version where you just use it as a platform for your story, keep the copyright, and might get paid some pittance if you’re lucky, and then there’s a contract version where you sign over the copyright, get paid a minimum of 400 dollars a month (more if you’re popular), oh and their minimum monthly word output is 120,000. 120,000 words. Per. Month. I'll gladly submit 120,000 words per month for 400 dollars. Granted, all of them will be the word "gently caress" but there will be 120,000 of them, every month, guaranteed.
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May 15, 2018 20:42
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Jon Joe posted:Apparently Webnovel dot com (Qidian) released a new platform last month for releasing English original web novels. There’s the normal version where you just use it as a platform for your story, keep the copyright, and might get paid some pittance if you’re lucky, and then there’s a contract version where you sign over the copyright, get paid a minimum of 400 dollars a month (more if you’re popular), oh and their minimum monthly word output is 120,000. 120,000 words. Per. Month. Haha what the gently caress; that's like writing a pretty long novel every month. I imagine that must be total poo poo pay on a "per hour of work" basis.
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hmmm 120k words a month...... "I can see mana" the man says without hesitation. "Really?" The woman doubts, "You can really see mana?" she continues. "Of course!" He boasts and then proclaims "I can truly see mana!". Still doubting, she asks "If you can see mana, then can you see what colour mana I have?" "What colour mana you have?" the man questions. "Yes, what colour mana do I have", she states with a wry smile, sure in the impossibility of the task. "Well of course I can see what colour mana you have!" the man continues, still as boastful as ever. "Tr-truly? You can see what colour mana I have? I don't believe you" she stutters out in surprise. "No one has ever seen mana colours in people before?!" she continues. "Its true. I can see mana colours, even yours" the man proudly declares. "If it's really true that you can see mana colours then can you see what is the mana colour of the mana that is produced by my body?" she asks, now a little unsure of herself. "I certainly can see the mana colour of the mana that is produced by your body" he replies, ever more confidently. "If you truly can see the mana colour of my mana then you should tell me what the mana colour of my mana produced in my body is!" the woman yells in frustration. "Ah, I suppose I could do that" the man considers "but it will come with a cost" he lecherously glares at the woman. "Don't be absurd, I only want to know what you think the mana colour of my mana produced in my body is I tell you!" she shouts in defiance. "Very well, I shall tell you what the mana colour of your mana produced in your body is" he finally relents. "Excellent, if you really can see what a person's mana colour of their mana produced in their body is actually then you will be a very powerful prodogy who's future knows no bounds!" she advises. "This is true, all will know my name, Generic-Man-One" He beams, proud of his future accomplishments. "That is only if you can actually tell what mana colour a person's mana produced in their body really is" she reminds. "Yes. very well, then shall we discuss the mana colour of your mana produced in your body?" he politly asks. "yes, please do so, I would like to know if you can see the mana colour of the mana produced in my body" she gives permission. "As you please", he begins "well, if I must say, the mana colour of the mana produced in your body is very unique. It is so unique I have never seen it before." he muses further. "If I must give the mana colour of your mana produced in your body a name, then I would give the mana colour of your mana produced in your body the description as a grand rendition of many shades of luxurious vermilion" he finally declares. "The mana colour of the mana produced in my body is a grand and luxurious rendition of many shades of vermilion?!" She exclaims in surprise and admiration. How could he so accurately see beutiful many shades of vermilion mana colour of the mana produced in her body that only she ever knew about?
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just add a couple details: make her a slave, make the protagonist froce her to strip so he can see more of her body so he can see her mana color, and I think you too could make 400/month
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"Unfortunately young miss, third-female-lead I can see a problem with the mana in your body" the man sternly warned. "A problem, in my mana?!" the woman panicked. A problem in someone's mana was very serious and could lead to all kinds of mundane and terrible problems. "Yes. There is a problem with the flow of your mana", he elaborated. "Oh no! Not the flow of the mana" she lamented, flow problems were often very painful and could be of dire consequences - she needed to know more so she asked "What kind of problem is there with my mana flow?" "Unfortunately I can not tell yet what the problem with your mana flow is. I can not see through your clothing clearly enough to determine the exact nature of your mana flow" the man continued with the seriousness the situation demanded. The woman, stunned by the mans audacity was about to protest but was suddenly overcome by weakness and collapsed on the spot. "This is bad, your flow has become strong and eratic" the man coldly stated. "I must examine you, please forgive my rudeness" he hurriedly said as he began stripping her clothes. A minute later he was left staring at her, but not at her perfect jadite skin or immaculate form, no he was staring at the dense, pulsating gathering of negative mana in her lower abdomen that was ready to explode. He had read about such symptoms before and suddenly realised just how blessed he truly was. Thinking quickly he looked into her eyes and said "You don't have much time, I can save you, but we don't have much time. I must use a secret technique and so you must swear your eternal loyalty and servitude to me on your soul, or I can only helplessly watch you suffer". His pained voice making it clear just how serious this matter was. Too weak to reply, the strength of her neck finally gave out, causing it to tilt. Accepting this as sufficient acceptance, the man cast his binding oath of servitude upon her and then began to strip. "You have a critical build up of negative mana in your lower abdomen which must be absorbed away and replaced with an immediate injection of positive mana energies. I'm sorry, but this is for your own good, and will need to be repeated regularly" the man explained, secretly overjoyed at the boost to the growth of his mana well she would provide. "but my love, my betrothed...childhood-rival-two" she weakly protested, "Is me now" the man said, invoking the power of the binding oath upon her. With dead eyes she looks upon his face and declares with her weak voice, "my betrothed is you". An unrivalled sense of satisfaction ran through the mans body as he realised he had taken the betrothed of his nemesis, childhood-rival-two as his mana-well concubine. Is that better? edit: On second thoughts I think I'll have to give up my dream of being a Qidian writer. I'm too weak-willed to write more of the quality content of the above level. Shanakin fucked around with this message at 00:34 on May 16, 2018 |
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Pretty sure he actually just copied that out of Against the Gods. The first one was from Peerless Martial God
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Ytlaya posted:Haha what the gently caress; that's like writing a pretty long novel every month. I imagine that must be total poo poo pay on a "per hour of work" basis. At 50 words per minute average it's about 1 hour 45 minutes a day every day at $8 an hour I think.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:eerily similar to douluo dalu God, yes. I will admit to a guilty pleasure enjoyment of that series, to the point where I've read more than half of the entire run of all 3 on LNMTL. In all 3 (and several of the author's other works), there is a TERRIBLE trope plot line where the relatively powerful and self-sufficient female lead/love interest is forced lose her memories or revert to a childlike personality, therefor becoming 100% dependent on the lead character, and then they recover but realize that the lead really is super awesome and worth being 100% obedient to in all things. The series can be dumb fun, but the gender politics are not great. That storyline is usually about where I lose interest. P.S. Don't read Heavenly Jewel Change
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Silynt posted:God, yes. I will admit to a guilty pleasure enjoyment of that series, to the point where I've read more than half of the entire run of all 3 on LNMTL. In all 3 (and several of the author's other works), there is a TERRIBLE trope plot line where the relatively powerful and self-sufficient female lead/love interest is forced lose her memories or revert to a childlike personality, therefor becoming 100% dependent on the lead character, and then they recover but realize that the lead really is super awesome and worth being 100% obedient to in all things. The series can be dumb fun, but the gender politics are not great. That storyline is usually about where I lose interest. i dropped heavenly jewel change as soon as the mc raped a girl. that was in like the first 10 chapters or so.
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Sadly that is all original content based on the ideas of "repeat as much as possible/make phrases unnecessarily long as much as possible to pad word count" and "the MC is comically selfish and villainous but present it as a virtue". It was loosely inspired by what I've heard in this thread and what I've read in some novels. I read a bit of DD which was just so drat cheesy-bad it was funny for a while and ATG but gave that up well before it got rapey (instead of just pervy). Shanakin fucked around with this message at 00:58 on May 16, 2018 |
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ThisIsNoZaku posted:At 50 words per minute average it's about 1 hour 45 minutes a day every day at $8 an hour I think. That assumes the person literally does nothing but constantly write and never spends any time thinking about what they're writing. Presumably you would at least want to do some non-zero amount of editing. You'd still run into problems by virtue of having limited time to edit (and having to edit your own work), but it would be better than nothing. (I realize this can probably accurately describe a significant portion of WNs.)
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Just train a neural net on every first chapter, have it write chapter 1, spend 5 minutes editing it, use a new net for every second chapter, etc
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I think at a certainty point, writing terrible 40K fanfics and than spamming it to Black Library till they publish it out of pity, might be easier.
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CasinoV posted:I think at a certainty point, writing terrible 40K fanfics and than spamming it to Black Library till they publish it out of pity, might be easier. that's not making a point. that's just being a truly dedicated 40k fan fiction writer.
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Shanakin posted:"Unfortunately young miss, third-female-lead I can see a problem with the mana in your body" the man sternly warned. Make it stop augh
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Here, something actually good to read. Yes, even given the setting. And it fills that "MC who isn't overpowered without it turning into Grimgar" request from a few pages back.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i dropped heavenly jewel change as soon as the mc raped a girl. that was in like the first 10 chapters or so. The other two rape him for magic reasons Sindai fucked around with this message at 03:08 on May 16, 2018 |
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i'd sooner read the magical rape fantasy than bleach fan fiction
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i'd sooner read the magical rape fantasy than bleach fan fiction Pretty sure there's more novelty value for you in the latter, given how 90% of the stuff in this thread includes magical rape. And non-magical rape. And sometimes metaphorical rape. Point is, you have nowhere to go but up here.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i'd sooner read the magical rape fantasy than bleach fan fiction bleach is just discount xianxia. Replace a couple terms like 'shikai' with 'core formation' or whatever and you're done
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Tunicate posted:bleach is just discount xianxia. Replace a couple terms like 'shikai' with 'core formation' or whatever and you're done
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i'd sooner read the magical rape fantasy than bleach fan fiction The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > ADTRW > Web Novel megathread: I assure you there is no rape in it
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So uh... I’m not sure if anyone ever brings it up, but transmigrating into someone who died pretty much means you’re going to die immediately after hopping into the corpse. Unless the transmigration process magically heals that body of any injuries and illness that caused the death. Poison doesn’t magically disappear from a body once it’s dead, that’s why DDT was so terrible!
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The Sandman posted:Here, something actually good to read. quick check: didn't see any rape, the main character is a BDSM lesbian maid instead
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Tunicate posted:quick check: didn't see any rape, the main character is a BDSM lesbian maid instead You trying to make that sound like a bad thing. Annointed fucked around with this message at 05:10 on May 16, 2018 |
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The Sandman posted:Here, something actually good to read. I haven't fully caught up with this one, but it's alright. It gets a lot more mileage out of the setting than I'd thought possible. Bleach normally isn't really a good setting for quests and campaigns because there isn't much to do in it, especially compared to One Piece, Naruto, and Hunter x Hunter. This is why Bleach anime filler tends to introduce new types of beings out of nowhere and set events in a sort of implicit parallel timeline; otherwise the protagonists would have nothing to do (aside from fighting Hollows much weaker than themselves, training without real gains, filling out paperwork, and getting involved in ultimately insignificant bureaucratic and aristocratic politics) without Aizen setting events in motion. This quest, though, manages to get a reasonably interesting plot out of exploring the conflicts between the Arrancar, plus the various tasks that someone in Hueco Mundo presumably has to do, while mining the eerie atmosphere that the manga and anime evoke occasionally.
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Got into The King's Avatar WN after watching the OVAs, which were much better because they didn't feature much if any of the 5s animation of an umbrella turning into a gun. The main plot actually kicks off somewhat. There's clear milestones on the way to the ultimate goal which makes it more enjoyable when things can actually advance, compared to the animation felt very samey after the initial setup. Maybe the WN is better there too but I'm not all that interested in going back. Long fighting sequences make me roll my eyes because you have to remember a bunch of different move names from a fictional game but the trash talking is funny. There's elements of a revenge fantasy but the lack of malice on Ye Xiu's part makes it enjoyable to read compared to, say, Shield Hero and every WN revenge fantasy. Ye Xiu managing to social engineer his way into and out of trouble is definitely the highlight of the series.
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