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veiled boner fuel posted:What the fucks a PPK and what is that poo poo that is in Ben's? Personal Preference Kit, NASA speak for 'bag of whatever you want'. Neil Armstrong took a piece of the 1903 Wright Flyer to the moon. Ben Lesnick took some old toys to the east cost. edit: 
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tooterfish posted:Well yeah, that's the point. They tell us that AI is so hard, that humanity's most brilliant scientist can't do it even in several lifetimes. Can't believe I'm about to do this. In the Titan books, where Riker is the captain now, they talk about how they intentionally put blocks into the starship computers to keep them from developing into AI on their own, due to morality issues. This is brought up, when they run into a race of sentient AI ships, one of which screws with the Titan computer, allowing it to develop into a sentient being. I stopped reading that book series around then.
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trucutru posted:Like, when I was a kid, I watched some captain Janeway stuff and I was like, lol, what the gently caress is this poo poo? And then went back to watching sophisticated stuff like Beavis and Butthead. lmao if you didn't think voyager was the best ship though like I'd never bother watching the shows because it was always one of those scrambled-order things where you never knew what was previously happening, but that ship  Hobold posted:Can't believe I'm about to do this. Most if not all of the "canon" books were poo poo but A Stitch In Time solidified Garak as my favorite DS9 character. e: oh there was that series where the reason we're stuck in our galaxy is because Q accidentally made friends with an extradimensional bully so the other Q(s) put up a fence to stop him from making GBS threads on our lawn
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Hav posted:Moriarty in TNG was a cheesefest. Dr. Who barely counts as time travel because they almost never bring up the ramifications of it, it’s just an excuse to go visit some exotic location. Like yet another abandoned gravel pit. (That’s admittedly why it works, and Blink was pretty good.) Primer’s the best “actually concerning time travel” time travel story though, IMO. Dewgy fucked around with this message at 04:23 on May 16, 2018 |
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I don't think that it's hard for them to make ai, so much as it's hard to make ai that is compatible with its creators? Like, the accidental ai almost always goes bad. So they're trying to make ai on purpose that is purposelly useful and intergratable into their society. They'd love more Command EMHs (lol) or whatever but they aren't sure why they occur and they can't seem to control how, why or when they occur which what u really need in order to make something for a useful purpose. Thats just my thoughts. I never watched ds9 but i might tonight if i can solve this rpi video streaming problem.
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Can Ben even legally drive? veiled boner fuel posted:I'm on the last season of Netflixing DS9 because it's the only ST I don't think I've seen every episode of. DS9 did this weird thing where it tried to reboot S6/S7 and then got canceled anyway so the last bit feels super disconnected.
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Given how Starfleet treated Data in some of the TNG episodes, morality probably plays a huuuuuge roll in not wanting to allow AI to develop. God knows how some of the more militant branches would treat it. Those little toolbox things from an early TNG episode that came to life, and sacrificed themselves to save a station or something. The whole federation seems to be tripping over AI all the time, but can't seem to do anything with it, or even keep it alive/functional for any stretch. So they say 'its too hard' and call it a day.
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Hobold posted:So they say 'its too hard' and call it a day. Much like Trek writer's when they wanted to rattle off pioneers of the past in Discovery. "gently caress it, put Musk in there, let's get some food."
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May 16, 2018 04:33
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Dewgy posted:Primer’s the best “actually concerning time travel” time travel story though, IMO. Oh yeah, I will second that. That movie broke my drat brain at least the first coupla times I watched it. But goddrat if it doesn't hold together on rewatch. Has anybody on here seen 'Upstream Color'? It's by the same director, and I'm afraid to watch it b/c I'm not sure if he can do such an amazing plot execution yet again.
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Frank_Leroux posted:Has anybody on here seen 'Upstream Color'? It's by the same director, and I'm afraid to watch it b/c I'm not sure if he can do such an amazing plot execution yet again. yes. it's very good, but way more of a 'tone poetry' sort of film. watch it when stoned and just let your mind go where it goes.
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Warhawk109 posted:obey progressive overload principle I have no idea if this is a real thing, but holy poo poo it reads like something from a badly translated microwave oven owners manual.
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alf_pogs posted:yes. it's very good, but way more of a 'tone poetry' sort of film. watch it when stoned and just let your mind go where it goes. Gotcha. I have some friends in Colorado that I'm visiting in August, so...(makes note in calendar).
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May 16, 2018 04:42
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SoftNum posted:Can Ben even legally drive?
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May 16, 2018 04:47
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Please ignore Star Trek: Voyager. It was just a dream anyway. Captain Taneway was awful.
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May 16, 2018 04:53
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Just ban every single fucker not talking about Star Citizen ITT imo.
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Federationship must be earned!
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May 16, 2018 04:58
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Thoatse posted:Federationship must be earned! You're thinking of latinium trade insurance, now pay your bribe to see the Grand Nagus
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In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The LA Times recently ran a story about the Child Exploitation Section of the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit, which contained a mind-boggling statistic: of the more than 100 offenders the unit has arrested over the last four years, “all but one” has been “a hard-core Trekkie.” Blogger Ernest Miller thought this claim was improbable. “I could go to a science fiction convention,” he explained “and be less likely to find that 99+ percent of the attendees were hard-core Trekkies.” While there may be quibbling about the exact numbers, the Toronto detectives claim that the connection is undeniable. In fact, Star Trek paraphernalia has so routinely been found at the homes of the pedophiles they’ve arrested that it has become a gruesome joke in the squad room. (On the wall, there is a Star Trek poster with the detectives’ faces replacing those of the crew members). This does not mean that watching Star Trek makes you a pedophile. It does mean that if you’re a pedophile, odds are you’ve watched a lot of Star Trek. This is not the first time Star Trek has been linked to bizarre sexual practices. Those involved in the Heaven’s Gate mass suicides in Rancho Sante Fe in March 1997 also purported themselves to be avid Star Trek fans. One may recall that the cult forced its members to wear unisex clothing, had a strict policy of celibacy, a ban on all sexual thoughts, and eight of the members had surgically castrated themselves. So why would sexual deviants be attracted to Star Trek? The link between Star Trek and pedophilia is obscure, even to the detectives in the sex crimes unit: “It has something to do with a fantasy world where mutants and monsters have power and where the usual rules don’t apply,” Det. Constable Warren Bulmer told the LAT. “But beyond that I can’t really explain it.” Explain it or not, one thing is clear: the detectives identify the pedophiles with the mutants and monsters and themselves with the crew of the Enterprise. But, in fact, the detectives probably have more in common with the pedophiles than they think, because the pedophiles, too, are almost certainly identifying with the crew of the Enterprise, and not with the mutants and monsters. After reviewing a bunch of episodes from the original Star Trek series, what became apparent is that sexuality on the Enterprise is pretty peculiar. At first blush, the crew might seem kind of sexy — big-breasted, scantily clad female crew members, men in skin-tight uniforms, and Captain Kirk ripping off his shirt at the slightest hint of heat — but the features of their sexuality are exaggerated in the manner of a comic book, creating a hygienic distance from anything to do with real sexuality. Despite the cartoonish trappings of sexiness, there are, in fact, no sexual or romantic relationships aboard the Enterprise. The male crew members demurely ignore the sexually enticing (if antiseptic) female crew members. There seems to be a tacit agreement that any sexual relationships would destroy the unity of the crew. In one episode, Mirror Mirror, the crew members are confronted by their evil, mirror counterparts in a parallel universe and discover that the parallel Starship is a hotbed of sexual activity, with no moral code. And when it comes to relationships off the ship, Captain Kirk displays a truly astonishing emotional poverty. He goes from planet to planet, having trysts with an assortment of nubile women, but never forms any real attachments. By the next episode, the last female partner is forgotten. (Although we don’t know all that much about pedophilic sexual offenders, one thing we do know is that they have trouble forming authentic adult romantic relationships.) Despite this apparent promiscuity, Kirk’s sexuality is anything but clear. His relationships are certainly never based on his own wants or desires. If he seduces a woman, it’s usually in order to escape danger on behalf of his crew, or else he’s overtaken by some alien power that makes him behave like a sex fiend. (e.g., a woman’s tears contain a love potion that causes Kirk to become amorous). There’s a pervasive message that women are toxic. In an episode called Cat’s Paw, there is an evil sorceress who separates the crew from each other and from the starship. The perpetually indignant Dr. McCoy cautions Kirk, “Don’t let her touch your wand Jim, or you’ll lose all your power! On the very rare occasions where Kirk seems to find love, his partners quickly die off. After one of his loves has croaked, Kirk admonishes Spock “Love, you’re better off without it.” The one longstanding attachment Kirk has is to Mr. Spock. In fact, their bond is so intense that there’s an abundance of gay porn written about the two. (Oddly enough, it’s frequently written by heterosexual women.) Spock, of course, doesn’t have the emotional apparatus for a romantic or emotional relationship. It’s easy to imagine how the garden variety pedophile might identify with the half-human, half-Vulcan character who is bereft of human feeling, essentially neither male nor female, and living in a society where those around him seem to have a different set of rules. (It turns out that autistics also strongly identify with Spock, but that’s another story). For both Kirk and Spock, their true shared love object is the luminous Starship Enterprise, and it essentially serves the purpose of a fetish object – a non-human, inanimate detour for evading anxieties belonging to genuine intimacy. In an episode called I, Mudd , when one of Harry Mudd’s androids asks Kirk what it is he desires: he replies, “The Enterprise.” “But the Enterprise is not a want or desire” says the android. “It’s a mechanical device.” “It’s a beautiful lady,” Kirk interjects sharply “and we love her.” So if the pedophiles are identifying with the crew members, who do the monsters represent? Possibly aspects of the pedophile’s mind that are split off because they are unthinkable, and projected into someone else. On the Enterprise, aggressive impulses aren’t battling it out with libidinal ones as they are here on earth. In the Star Trek universe, every “bad” impulse is attributed to an external force. When it comes to sex, for example, it’s always an outside influence that takes possession of the crew’s minds and bodies, causing them to behave in erotically driven ways. Child molesters have a similar mechanism at work. They deny having any sexual impulses themselves; they frequently claim that it was the children who seduced them. There is another aspect of Star Trek that likely makes it irresistible to perverts. It is utopian, in the sense that all the differences and distinctions which create tensions here on earth have been eradicated. Despite their exaggerated sexual characteristics, for example, the crew members are citizens of a utopian interracial and interplanetary world where the usual conflicts associated with gender do not apply. In perversion, there is an attempt to obliterate any distinctions that provoke unconscious anxiety. First and foremost, this entails a denial of the difference between the sexes and the difference between the generations. Pedophiles are, at the very least, attempting to deny the difference between the generations. The utopian fantasy here is to normalize sex between adults and children. According to Dr. Peter Mezan, a psychoanalyst in New York City, “There is an impulse that is common to perversion and to utopian thinking. The wish is to create a world in which differences make no difference. The great utopian thinkers have been immensely inspiring, but there is a reason that utopian communities have never worked out. In the name of equality of every sort and in the attempt to eliminate the tensions that normally divide us, they propose to create a marvelously unnatural world without the usual boundaries. But then it gets all hosed up.” Think of Michael Jackson. He has attempted to eradicate just about every sexual, generational, and racial difference – and to construct an alternate utopian reality in Neverland. While there is certainly a futuristic quality to his clothing and mask-like facial features, it is unclear whether he watches Star Trek or just looks as if he does.
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trucutru posted:Star Trek  holy poo poo I always thought that stereotype was anecdotal or a joke. Those numbers can't be right, surely?
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Daztek posted:No FUD please, he's working remotely. 
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Tinfoil Papercut posted:Leonard J Crabs, Attorney at Law was reclined in the conference room chair, listening with thinly veiled disinterest at the quarterly earnings report his partner was presenting. He drummed a beat on the table, irreverent to the professional display these well dressed chimps tried to put on. Samantha shot him daggers, only to be greeted with Leonard leering back at her cleavage. She quickly turned back to the presentation as she adjusted her jacket to hide the endowment. Miles behind, I just wanted to  this.
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I’ve finally finished (I think) taking in most of the streamer shows that followed in the wake of the Hercules LTI / Warbond debacle and it’s really stunning to hear the sort of conversations that have followed in its wake. I can’t think of a single week where this many streamers actually engaged in #realtalk. Even though they can’t quite reach the final breakthrough. Here’s an example: YOUTUBE: Asylum bemoans the Fun Tax problem of Star Citizen game design In discussing design, they can see WHAT the problem is but not WHY it is. (And it’s hit repeatedly in this episode...) They can’t seem to imagine that the reason Star Citizen is so punishingly ridden with funkilling busywork is because Chris Roberts is a terrible game designer and he wants his game to be that way. That this still eludes them at this late hour when they’ve witnessed Chris “The Funkiller” Roberts in action isn’t completely surprising. They just like him too much to believe it, thus rendering the obvious unthinkable. There are other great bits, too. LittleBitOfMadness cracks me up because he has a charming way of stating heresies. Just watch this hilarious segment where the others excuse CIG’s tin-ear on the Warbond thing and he struggles even to contain himself. When he gets the floor and then points out the mutually exclusive propositions in the air it’s a huge  moment. (Dude needs an SA account, stat...)“I’m sorry...” <— (I laughed out loud...) I found the entire episode worth a listen, really. They hit a lot of interesting topics — the Warbond / LTI thing, Citcon and unsold CitCon tickets, all the unnecessary layers of overcomplicated game design, questions about the large scale ground warfare game, the abominable Marketing, and more. There are a lot of good moments and a few really great ones. The only thing missing, really, is a serious discussion about what it all really means. If and when that time comes, we may see a WholeLottaMadness and in more ways that one.
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G0RF posted:
Holy poo poo! These guys see the lines, they are aware of all the crap, yet somehow cannot do the final move to solve the puzzle. They mention every little aspect that is wrong: the deliberate lack of fun, the unfathomable scope, the communication issues, marketing, balance, control, you name it. And yet they don't get the whole picture. Favorite quote: quote:We're playtesting the game, and we're helping them balance the game. We're showing them how it's all broken These dudes are smart (way smarter than the other youtubers/streamers we are used to) so how comes that they can't connect the dots? Are they just that trusting? trucutru fucked around with this message at 08:25 on May 16, 2018 |
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trucutru posted:Holy poo poo! These guys see the lines, they are aware of all the crap, yet somehow cannot do the final move to solve the puzzle. They mention every little aspect that is wrong: the deliberate lack of fun, the unfathomable scope, the communication issues, marketing, balance, control, you name it. And yet they don't get the whole picture.
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veiled boner fuel posted:I put it on for background ambiance while I'm sexing my girlfriend, i'm no nerd! There is no sexual act that is not enhanced by the sound of Nog getting his leg blown off. https://youtu.be/kxO7dv3gONM?t=67
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Virtual Captain posted:Just ban every single fucker not talking about Star Citizen ITT imo. You'd make a better Captain than Janeway anyway!
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Most if not all of the "canon" books were poo poo but A Stitch In Time solidified Garak as my favorite DS9 character. Garak is probably my favourite TV character from any show. I hadn't read A Stitch In Time as I didn't want that ruined, but if you're recommending it....
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trucutru posted:Holy poo poo! These guys see the lines, they are aware of all the crap, yet somehow cannot do the final move to solve the puzzle. They mention every little aspect that is wrong: the deliberate lack of fun, the unfathomable scope, the communication issues, marketing, balance, control, you name it. And yet they don't get the whole picture. If the wording of the quote is because are actually talking to someone in the company, I'd assume it's because they think they have an in and not noticing whoever they are talking to isn't going to care within 10 minutes after they give off a list of issues and possible fixes. I don't blame them being bright eyed naive in that regard. If not, just another group of guys thinking that Star Citizen will fix every single of it's 10,000 problems once it leaves alpha.
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trucutru posted:These dudes are smart (way smarter than the other youtubers/streamers we are used to) so how comes that they can't connect the dots? Are they just that trusting? I think they just can’t believe Chris “death of a spaceman” Roberts has a miserable game design vision. Everything he wants must first be implemented in the game, put in the hands of players, and produce mountains of evidence of its irredeemable awfulness via playtesting before the rank and file Devs have permission to start making changes to it. The Asylum actually guys touch on something Twerk was openly bemoaning in his own recent acts of televised despair. Twerk was pleading with his audience to drop the LTI Warbond raging — something Moist also specifically calls for — because “the Devs at CIG and Foundry aren’t responsible for that and they actually are listening to player feedback and trying to make the game better. So why can’t we talk about gameplay? Mechanics? How to make Service Beacons Better? The Devs are listening, we have their ear, let’s help fix this game — pleeeeeeaaaaassse?” All of what Twerk was saying is true. Guys like Pressley, Papy, Coulson and formerly Will Maiden (now at Avalanche Stockholm and probably having a blast on Just Cause 4) all have sent signals at various times through varying channels of their interest in constructive feedback and suggestions. BoredGamer has seen this up close and I personally think it’s sincere. There are honest to goodness gamer / developers who care about all the right things trapped inside Foundry and CIG. And they’re listening and persevering to improve the game Chris keeps fighting to make bad. But it doesn’t matter enough. They can’t overcome Chris Roberts and his miserable, desperately overcompensating “vision” of game design. G0RF fucked around with this message at 13:50 on May 16, 2018 |
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stingtwo posted:If the wording of the quote is because are actually talking to someone in the company, I'd assume it's because they think they have an in and not noticing whoever they are talking to isn't going to care within 10 minutes after they give off a list of issues and possible fixes. I don't blame them being bright eyed naive in that regard. Leaves alpha?, it still has to get there first. I'm sure on any give day it is defended by being pre-alpha. Like the males who play it.
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The Titanic posted:Your post made me actually read this guys post screenshot. Whoever posted that has zero experience on how actual real life development works and reinterations / forks / branches on actual working prototypes. More often than not are deployed concurrently with working systems to provide real world results. If you equate this with Star Citizen, its pretty pointless, because the core prototype doesn't work. There is no result. You can't quantify brokenness that way. Elite Dangerous would be closer to agile development than Star Citizen if you want to compare apples to apples. SC is waterfall, with each "point oh" being a restart of the entire development process.
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Kosumo posted:Leaves alpha?, it still has to get there first. alpha, pre-alpha, CIG's R&D "work", jpg photos on what star citizen could be, the future of what it gets called all depends on that $350 dinner spergcitizen's have spent money on.
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Daztek posted:I like how MoMA is standing just a tad behind Alexis so we can't see his belt Hold on. MoMA is Toast?
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Iceclaw posted:Who is willing to bet that Lesnick's driver is just going to go 'round the building and behind the shed? Toast: We`re gonna get a little place. Ben: Okay, yeah, we`re gonna get a little place and we`re gonna... Toast: We`re gonna... Ben: ...have... Toast: We`re gonna have some donuts, and some pizza, and we`re gonna have maybe, maybe, some diet pepsi. Down in the basement we`ll have boxes of... Ben: Boxes of Wing Commander stuff for me. Toast: For you. Ben: And I get to sort the Wing Commander stuff.
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stingtwo posted:alpha, pre-alpha, CIG's R&D "work", jpg photos on what star citizen could be, the future of what it gets called all depends on that $350 dinner spergcitizen's have spent money on. Don't forget all the
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