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If a painter couldn't get his message across with visual imagery, and instead conveyed the message by filling 3/4 of the canvas with text, would people think he's a good painter? No If a video game designer couldn't get his message across with gameplay, and instead conveyed the message by making 3/4 of the game a movie, would people think he's a good video game designer? Yes, because gamers are loving stupid
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May 11, 2018 21:13
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great wisdom from noted good poster feelixjonathan posted:I started playing metal gear rising. I don't really know this rainden's backstory having only played GZ and TPP before... But I'm having a lot of fun with the cheesy powermetal music. The controls for blocking hits loving suck and the camera is wonky but it's still fun. I just beat the robot dog. I tried it probably 20 times straight. Gave up and probably said some racist things about the Japanese. Then a week later I came back and beat it first try. It's awesome. My favorite Platinum game and my third favorite Metal Gear game.
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May 11, 2018 21:14
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jonoathan you're wrong about everything except for the camera Everything about the controls is amazing including the parry and the music isn't power metal you dumb loving bitch
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May 11, 2018 21:16
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They could be conveyed and told better but I still think Metal Gear easily has the most compelling and interesting plot of all video games.
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May 11, 2018 21:18
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I come to Metal Gear for batshit insanity and it has always delivered. Plot wise I think MGS1 or 3 is the best, just from a structural storytelling and character standpoint. Because uh, that is a low bar in this series.
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May 11, 2018 21:28
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feelix posted:If a painter couldn't get his message across with visual imagery, and instead conveyed the message by filling 3/4 of the canvas with text, would people think he's a good painter? No 
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May 11, 2018 21:43
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feelix posted:If a video game designer couldn't get his message across with gameplay, and instead conveyed the message by making 3/4 of the game a movie, would people think he's a good video game designer? Yes, because gamers are loving stupid The game came out two months after 9/11 and despite literally having a scene cut for being too similar to 9/11 is more relevant now than it ever was then. I'm not talking about the ludonarrative flow, I'm just talking about the narrative.
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May 11, 2018 21:46
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I'm not arguing that the 45 minute codec conversation into cutscene into codec conversation right before the final boss fight is Kojima's most egregious moment of excess, but I don't understand why my saying the actual plot of MGS2 has aged well is getting this response. no, text is text, painting is painting, and nothing informs anything and god help you if you screw up metal taxonomy which is why this fails to be sculpture which is probably an opinion that dude holds in earnest, actually  e; this is how you do a hot take: By virtue of being skippable and allowing the player to rush directly to the final boss battles, the 90 minute codec finale of mgs2 is more gamelike than the intro to God of War 4. Willie Tomg fucked around with this message at 21:57 on May 11, 2018 |
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May 11, 2018 21:54
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Which MGS game is the most replayable? Which has the most NG+ stuff?
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May 11, 2018 21:54
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Terminally Bored posted:Which MGS game is the most replayable? Which has the most NG+ stuff? Does anything besides MGS3 really have NG+ stuff?
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May 11, 2018 22:23
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Look Sir Droids posted:Does anything besides MGS3 really have NG+ stuff? Well yeah, all of them do. I would say that unless you’re really into the FOB stuff in 5 then MGS3 would have the better NG+ stuff if only because it has a much wider variety of areas to mess around in.
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May 11, 2018 22:30
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4 allows you to take your accumulated gunporn and items into NG+ which is neat. 3 also has a decent swath of NG+ stuff and imo has the best array of places and situations to use it all in. 2 ties it all to dogtags/wigs, and gently caress that. 1 has the stealth camo and bandanna and camera. Wooooooo. 
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May 11, 2018 22:45
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Willie Tomg posted:4 allows you to take your accumulated gunporn and items into NG+ which is neat. 3 also has a decent swath of NG+ stuff and imo has the best array of places and situations to use it all in. 2 ties it all to dogtags/wigs, and gently caress that. 1 has the stealth camo and bandanna and camera. Wooooooo.
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May 11, 2018 22:49
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Kibayasu posted:Well yeah, all of them do. I would say that unless you’re really into the FOB stuff in 5 then MGS3 would have the better NG+ stuff if only because it has a much wider variety of areas to mess around in. I don’t consider MGS5 to have any NG+ stuff tbh. The FOB stuff is all open to you mid-game and you never play the main plot over again. It’s all NG.
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May 11, 2018 22:52
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Terminally Bored posted:Which MGS game is the most replayable? Which has the most NG+ stuff? Phantom Pain is definitely the most replayable with Peace Walker being a close second.
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May 11, 2018 23:32
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4 also let you play around with wacky weapons like the solar gun from Boktai and the Tanegashima in NG+ AND you can go back and play through the whole game as Otacon who doesn't want that
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May 11, 2018 23:35
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In Peace Walker the whirlwinds from the Tanegashima blow enemies into the sky where they're caught by Kaz in a helicopter. Unless we're not counting PW postgame as NG+ I don't know how it's even a contest. 
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May 11, 2018 23:47
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Look Sir Droids posted:I don’t consider MGS5 to have any NG+ stuff tbh. The FOB stuff is all open to you mid-game and you never play the main plot over again. It’s all NG. I suppose I'm forgetting about going back and doing all the tasks or S-ranking the missions with all the much, much better equipment you've developed/stolen. That's definitely a form of NG+ no matter one's opinion on 5's mission structure. I guess FOB's are more "end-game" stuff where you slowly (very slowly without buying coins) make your way up the development ladder and invade bigger and bigger players.
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May 11, 2018 23:57
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feelix posted:If a painter couldn't get his message across with visual imagery, and instead conveyed the message by filling 3/4 of the canvas with text, would people think he's a good painter? No This is true but also it's a criticism he took seriously after MGS4. You can tell because MGSV's lack of cutscenes wasn't just due to it being unfinished. The opening hospital set piece that taught you the basics of stealth would've been a 20 minute cutscene from MGS2-era Kojima. MGSV indulges his cinema fetishism by making the gameplay look and sound like a movie, rather than making it play like one.
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May 12, 2018 00:00
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Kibayasu posted:I suppose I'm forgetting about going back and doing all the tasks or S-ranking the missions with all the much, much better equipment you've developed/stolen. That's definitely a form of NG+ no matter one's opinion on 5's mission structure. I guess it’s more accurate to say replay value than NG+. Yes TPP and PW have the most replay value by far. You just don’t have to “start over” to do it.
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May 12, 2018 00:07
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Kojima's game design is frequently genius, but he is evidently more interested in tying the occasional narrative flourish to a single mechanic or sequence than making the whole gameplay experience track with the message and plot at all times. The latter is by no means an impossible ideal, but ill-suited to the sprawling games he wants to make, and that's fine.
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May 12, 2018 01:19
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Death Stranding will be good.
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May 12, 2018 01:24
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SeANMcBAY posted:Death Stranding will be good. If nothing else I did find the first time through the more tense/scary parts of MGS5 pretty well done. Parts of the intro goes on waaaaay too long of course but if Death Stranding is going for even more horror/disturbing as the trailers make it seem then it really will be.
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May 12, 2018 02:22
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SeANMcBAY posted:Death Stranding will be good.
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May 12, 2018 03:04
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I’m buying a PS4 Pro just for Death Stranding because I’m a sucker. Of course then I can also get Bloodborne and HZD and Shadow of Colossus remake and a PS4 copy of Darks Souls Remastered after I get tired of getting hacker owned on the PC version.
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May 12, 2018 03:19
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feelix posted:jonoathan you're wrong about everything except for the camera Hey that's not very nice. And I know metal. There are powermetal shred fests in many scenes.
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May 12, 2018 10:23
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jonathan posted:I started playing metal gear rising. I don't really know this rainden's backstory having only played GZ and TPP before... But I'm having a lot of fun with the cheesy powermetal music. The controls for blocking hits loving suck and the camera is wonky but it's still fun. I just beat the robot dog. I tried it probably 20 times straight. Gave up and probably said some racist things about the Japanese. Then a week later I came back and beat it first try. Congratulations. You found the realest metal gear game.
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May 12, 2018 11:10
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https://twitter.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/996175513264635904?s=21 I like to imagine he’s only been working on the thumbs up fetus for the past 6 months.
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May 15, 2018 00:50
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Lol “imagine”
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May 15, 2018 01:52
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So I guess you can get invaded even if you’re not on PS+, you just can’t go defend your base in person apparently? Does that mean I can invade other players without PS+? If I can invade the hints seem to say that another player will only know they’re being invaded or who did it if the invader gets spotted. Am I reading that right?
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May 16, 2018 14:54
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https://twitter.com/KojiPro2015_EN/status/996929204166975488?s=20 New trailer confirmed. GZ/TPP had like six trailers so we’re like 66% of the way to this new unfinished game.
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May 17, 2018 03:26
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Back in the day when TPP came out, impatient people used to cheatengine poo poo to make the grind faster. I'm thinking about playing it again, but I've grinded enough for one lifetime. What sort of "hacks", "tips" and "tricks" (cheat engine or not) would you guys recommend to make MGSV more fun the second time around. Also, an observation: I don't know how many times I've finished MGS 1-3, but even though I loved MGSV, I've only played through it once because of the sandbox/grind nature, and that's kind of sad.
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May 18, 2018 00:07
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It's also like six times bigger than the rest of the series put together, to be fajr
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May 18, 2018 00:40
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Black Griffon posted:Back in the day when TPP came out, impatient people used to cheatengine poo poo to make the grind faster. I'm thinking about playing it again, but I've grinded enough for one lifetime. What sort of "hacks", "tips" and "tricks" (cheat engine or not) would you guys recommend to make MGSV more fun the second time around. Don't wear the sneaking suits and go full armor the whole game. FULL MURDER. Wear it for invasions and just destroy/balloon every asset of theirs you see. Always prioritize the mortars, since they can one shot you in rank 7 armor.
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May 18, 2018 01:04
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If you want to still have a reasonable rate of progression, cheat engine every resource except fuel, and you will get base upgrades not much faster than the intended rate, but not have to worry about bringing an extra sleep grenade you won't use, or going out of your way to grab a plant in the middle of a mission, or whatever. Man I wish they'd gone with the PW method of your loadout only costs carried weight and GMP.
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May 18, 2018 01:17
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Considering how much you need I’m surprised you can’t steal shipping containers of plants too. But I guess you technically “always” need metal and such for more FOBs (Is there a max number you can have? I’ve only ever seen at most 3 for 1 player) and you only need plants for research.
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May 18, 2018 01:36
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Why not send out your flunkies to pick plants in combat deployments
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May 18, 2018 02:12
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Shining Hippo was killed in action while gathering African peaches. He will be remembered for his bravery.
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May 18, 2018 02:13
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It takes days for not that much.
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May 18, 2018 02:16
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Just give yourself max resources. The timers for everything (platform construction, higher level developments) staggers your progress enough to feel balanced. Definitely grab the mod that removes the deployment cost for everything so you can actually use the fun stuff.
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