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I was wondering what "heavy" meant there, but as far as I'm concerned the matter is now resolved.
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May 18, 2018 01:05
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lofi posted:But surely there's a difference between 'I don't want to read it' and 'it is a bad thing'? Randaconda posted:I hate it because real life doesn't operate like that. People get away with being shitheads all the loving time, and art should reflect life.
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May 18, 2018 01:16
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Chinatown works on two levels because no one was held accountable in either the film or real life.
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May 18, 2018 01:21
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Strudel Man posted:To an extent, sure. Though most judgements of the quality of a work, I think, can be reduced to subjective considerations of what one likes and doesn't care for. What’s it like being a Nielsen panelist?
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May 18, 2018 05:27
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Another problem is prevalence of the Well Made story. Every narrative, especially for Hollywood movies, must have a tidy ending with proper levels of set up and pay off to feel like "good writing" now. If it doesn't follow the three act structure, people immediately jump to the writing being lazy or bad. I think this feeds into that idea of the morality of stories, where people feel if the "bad guy" doesn't receive karmic justice, then the story didn't do it's job.
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May 18, 2018 06:04
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That is confusing multiple issues. Not to say there aren't a pile of bad armchair critics out there who conflate the two, but writing CAN be objectively bad. There is objective value in all forms of art and creative pursuits beyond the subjective value people ascribe to w/e piece. Whether somebody assumes that 'good' writing inevitably involves bad guys being punished for being bad is a whole seperate thing. (it's also dumb as hell)
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May 18, 2018 06:07
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The differentiation between subjective and objective critique is fuzzy at best, and the most easily defined objective measures usually deal with technique rather than content. This started with talking about a comic being bad for being meandering, ignoring that it was meant as an emotional observation rather than a tight narrative, though, so I feel like talking about the prevalence of well made narratives fits.
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May 18, 2018 06:17
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Hey you guys could you please stop being so meanful?
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May 18, 2018 06:41
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Discuss this:
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May 18, 2018 07:10
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Whose wig is it?
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May 18, 2018 07:22
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heres a morality tale you weirdos      
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May 18, 2018 07:27
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Agent355 posted:Is any of that profound? Is any of that really an insight to any except the most dense bricks of people? But no you go ahead and enjoy your pretentious art comic. Go back to that subreddit then
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May 18, 2018 07:42
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Loucks posted:What’s it like being a Nielsen panelist?
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May 18, 2018 08:57
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Poor Miserable Gurgi posted:The differentiation between subjective and objective critique is fuzzy at best, and the most easily defined objective measures usually deal with technique rather than content. I got lost somewhere around the middle of the comic and started skimming, missed that it started going back in time and suddenly saw shouty man show up again. It felt a bit Zen Pencils, it thinks spending a long time making a point is the same as making it well.
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May 18, 2018 09:33
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May 18, 2018 11:59
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Thank you for posting a funny comic in the "post a lot of words about comics" thread
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May 18, 2018 12:45
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Why a pig instead of a sheep. What are you even doing here.
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May 18, 2018 13:33
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A capitalist pig maybe?
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May 18, 2018 13:59
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RJWaters2 posted:Why a pig instead of a sheep. What are you even doing here. 
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May 18, 2018 14:24
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Elfface posted:I got lost somewhere around the middle of the comic and started skimming, missed that it started going back in time and suddenly saw shouty man show up again. It felt a bit Zen Pencils, it thinks spending a long time making a point is the same as making it well. The mistake is thinking it's making a point the way you're thinking. Like, as people have said, it's totally fair if people don't like it. That's a fair opinion. But it's not moralizing or making some "deep point". It's just loose vignettes showing that people change. It's really not trying to be high art, and you don't have to condemn it for failing to meet some standard you imagine it's trying to reach.
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May 18, 2018 15:55
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Three funny and good comics all at once, holy moly! I think I need to sit down. 
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May 18, 2018 16:10
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terminal velocity baby batter
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May 18, 2018 16:21
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RJWaters2 posted:Why a pig instead of a sheep. What are you even doing here. The three little pigs built houses
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May 18, 2018 16:44
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Krankenstyle posted:heres a morality tale you weirdos Philippe Caza. That poo poo blew my mind in the best way when I was about 15-16.
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May 18, 2018 21:46
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Pondex posted:Philippe Caza. That poo poo blew my mind in the best way when I was about 15-16. heck yeah! I remember reading through the whole album of these "suburbian tales" that my dad had and some of them I thought "this one I will have to read in a few years because I don't get it" Love his physical, shaped, textured art. You can tell the Moebius/Giraud inspiration but it's more cartoonish and, uh, "bulbous" 
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May 18, 2018 22:07
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Krankenstyle posted:heck yeah! I remember reading through the whole album of these "suburbian tales" that my dad had and some of them I thought "this one I will have to read in a few years because I don't get it" Yeah, I think I brought that same album home from the library a dozen times or more. Like Moebius with a bit of Cronenberg mixed in.
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May 18, 2018 22:16
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Krankenstyle posted:heck yeah! I remember reading through the whole album of these "suburbian tales" that my dad had and some of them I thought "this one I will have to read in a few years because I don't get it" To be the slow one in the thread, what am I jot getting?
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May 18, 2018 23:33
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Foul Ole Ron posted:To be the slow one in the thread, what am I jot getting? What's there to get? It's weird underground comics. This one pokes fun at boring bougie people. It doesn't have to be your thing.
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May 18, 2018 23:45
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Volcott posted:Chinatown works on two levels because no one was held accountable in either the film or real life. Three levels.
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May 19, 2018 02:25
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gleebster posted:Three levels. Which level am I missing? I wanna get in on level three.
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May 19, 2018 02:45
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May 19, 2018 02:51
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How is life a lie?
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May 19, 2018 02:53
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Volcott posted:Which level am I missing? I wanna get in on level three. The actual people who were behind water distribution in California were never held accountable. They made huge fortunes, which they passed on to their unworthy heirs. Or maybe you were forgetting Roman Polanski's unwelcome penis in the anus of a crying 13-year-old. Either one is a perfect third level.
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May 19, 2018 03:07
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Fantastic Flyer posted:How is life a lie? You can't spell "life" without spelling "lie". 
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May 19, 2018 03:08
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May 19, 2018 03:21
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Fantastic Flyer posted:How is life a lie? lol if you arent dead right now
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if i was the girl in the red shirt i would look at that womans tiddies too
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