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RBC
Nov 23, 2007

IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888
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Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Holy cow I just read the Parm Gill allegations and apparently (there's a recording lol) he asked a candidate to step aside so he could run in that seat, and suggested a job in the government as return afterwards. After they just spent YEARS harping on the Liberals for doing this exact thing in Sudbury, and it led to criminal charges and a short trial before they were dismissed.

quote:

“The opportunities are limitless,” Gill, a former federal Conservative MP, tells Qadri at one point. “Let’s assume we form a government and you become a chief of staff.”

The party said Thursday it considered a complaint that Gill had exerted inappropriate pressure, but received three expert opinions — including a letter from former police chief and federal cabinet minister Julian Fantino — that he did nothing wrong.

Oh who's that? Former OPP Chief, Toronto police Chief and federal cabinet minister Julian Fantino says it was ok?

Just lol.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Well he knows a thing or two about corruption, I'd say that counts as expert advice.

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Amsel just ended up ranting about the Crown and his ex-wife faked the whole thing to set him up and the whole government is conspiracy against him.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Sep 9, 2022

Postess with the Mostest
Apr 4, 2007

Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Same girl

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Hey guys, guess what else the OLP just sold for pennies on the dollar!

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Sep 9, 2022

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
It goes to show how defence attorneys are demonized no matter what. Do a good job and get your client off? loving rear end in a top hat helping guilty people go free! Don't manage to convince a jury your client is innocent? Hah, you schmuck; you overworked moron, just give up, you're hopeless, I know much better how to win cases based on my extensive experience watching Law & Order whilst sitting in my underpants eating ketchup chips :smuggo:

Thank god people still do it anyway :unsmith:

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

They're absolutely shameless.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

This is good ... for Andrea!

Le Saboteur
Dec 5, 2007

I hear you wish to ball, adventurer..
Huh now I know why my local casino just changed names recently.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
So I was doing a bit of schadenfreude research on the possibility of Doug Ford losing Etobicoke North and I found that Shafiq Qaadri, Liberal has doubled or more the Conservative vote in that riding in the last four elections going back to 2003.

In the 2015 federal election, Kristy Duncan (Liberal) received a staggering 62% of the vote to the Conservatives 23%.

Doug actually might lose his seat. :laugh:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
:colbert:

I posted a link to the riding results and a blurb saying exactly that yesterday.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

infernal machines posted:

:colbert:

I posted a link to the riding results and a blurb saying exactly that yesterday.

Welp

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

Good article about Glen Chernen, the closest thing Vancouver has to a Rob Ford "stop the gravy train" type figure. Previously he seemed like a crank that wasn't going to get anywhere, but in the Fall he successfully took over the board of the NPA and the board subsequently disallowed the front running NPA Mayoral candidate, Hector Bremner (an NPA councillor!!) from running for Mayor. This has cleared the way for Chernen to become NPA candidate.

Up to this point Chernen seemed like a real mystery, and no one actually knew what he did or how he made a living. Seems like he's idle rich?


quote:

Glen Chernen wants to be mayor, but both critics and supporters are confused about what he stands for
VANCOUVER—Glen Chernen is convinced something is rotten at city hall and believes the only way to fix it is to become mayor.

The Dunbar resident, who says he hasn’t held a conventional job in 20 years but makes a living managing his own investments, has become increasingly absorbed with examining city land deals and what he believes are conflicts of interest. He now spends nearly all his time doing this, he told StarMetro in an interview on Wednesday.

“Somebody needs to go in there and start operating the city to the benefit of the public,” Chernen said.

Chernen co-founded the Cedar Party and briefly ran for office in the last civic election, but this time around he’s hitched his wagon to an established political party. The Non-Partisan Association board chose Chernen, along with two other candidates, to run for the party’s mayoral nomination.

In an upset, the NPA board rejected its own sitting city councillor, Hector Bremner, who had also hoped to run for mayor.

The move set off a political drama that has revealed a power struggle between two factions: people who believe adding more housing and densifying neighbourhoods is necessary to fix the city’s extremely unaffordable living situation, and those who believe developers have too much influence over city hall and are calling for more measures to slow demand for housing, especially from offshore buyers.

Bremner, a public-relations executive and former B.C. Liberal staffer, has championed the supply argument and has won followers from Abundant Housing Vancouver, a group that advocates denser housing. Chernen is supported by some members of a group called HALT, which advocates taxation targeting foreign buyers and people who have bought property in B.C. but don’t pay income taxes here.

The NPA board rejected Bremner over conflict-of-interest concerns raised over his past lobbying and current public-relations work, according to a response to the letter written by Bremner’s campaign manager. Justin Fung and Raza Mirza, who are members of HALT and the NPA, have filed official conflict-of-interest complaints against Bremner. Bremner’s campaign says the complaints are politically motivated and without merit.

Although Mirza and Fung have publicly said they support Chernen, he insists he has no formal arrangement with HALT and denies that HALT members are supporting him.

“There are things that I think people in that organization and myself agree with, and that’s that the City of Vancouver has some deep-rooted problems in the way they manage their real estate and the way they approve real-estate rezonings,” Chernen said.

He noted he does not support every measure designed to tackle speculation in real estate.

Chernen opposes a new surtax recently introduced by the B.C. NDP government that increases property tax for homes worth over $3 million. He said he is personally affected by the school tax increase. But his opposition to the tax hasn’t dimmed his admiration of David Eby, B.C.’s attorney general, who has focused on money laundering and supports taxation on real-estate speculation.

Chernen is also not sure about the City of Vancouver’s new empty homes tax.

“I think, in theory, that it’s a good idea,” Chernen said. “But I’m not a fan of big brother creating more rules, taking away property rights.”

There are critics and supporters who both say they’re not entirely sure what Chernen stands for.

“He’s always trying to play both sides, it seems,” said Jennifer Bradshaw, a member of Abundant Housing. “As far as I know, HALT is a supporter of the school tax, and Raza Mirza, who is a spokesperson for HALT, is a Chernen supporter.”

Mirza previously told StarMetro he did not agree with Chernen on the school tax issue but for now continues to support him for mayor.

Paul Doroshenko is a lawyer who has filed freedom-of-information requests to challenge B.C.’s vehicle emissions testing rules and roadside prohibition penalties for people caught driving under the influence. He admires Chernen’s doggedness and thinks the investigative work Chernen does is important.

“He’s a very intense guy. He would make a very interesting mayor. It would be a major shakeup and I don’t think it would be a destructive shakeup,” Doroshenko said, adding that he will probably vote for Chernen.

Still, he said: “I can’t pin down his ideology. Maybe we’re in a post-ideology era.”

Chernen describes himself as a fiscal conservative, but “with a heart.” He then mused, “Am I part socialist? I don’t know. That’s where I think I have this common bond with guys like David Eby and the people in HALT.”

To make housing more affordable, Chernen said he would allow extra density only when developers agree to put a covenant on the new homes, to ensure they’ll be sold to people who live and work in Vancouver. He doesn’t know exactly how it would work, but it could be that the properties would be available to Canadian citizens and to others who could produce “four or five years of T4s” to show they pay income tax in Canada.

On Twitter he’s promised to rip out the 10th Ave. bike lane with “heavy equipment” and says he’s also not a fan of the Point Grey bike lane. But, he said, he doesn’t oppose all separated bike lanes in the city. He also opposes the removal of the Georgia and Dunsmuir viaducts, two sections of elevated highway the city plans to replace with an at-grade roadway, parks and new housing. He believes the viaducts removal will turn East Vancouver “into a parking lot.”

Chernen’s critics have pointed to several court challenges he launched and lost. When he tried to challenge Mayor Gregor Robertson’s nomination papers, arguing they were void because the correct residential address hadn’t been entered, the judge wrote that the application was without merit.

When Chernen argued in another case that Robertson was in conflict of interest over a city building that had been leased to local social-media management company Hootsuite, the judge wrote that the suit was an abuse of process.

Chernen attempted to challenge why the 2015 assessed value of Oakridge Centre had dropped by $300 million after the shopping centre’s owner appealed to BC Assessment. The panel hearing the case wrote that Chernen was unprepared, lacked expertise and made unfounded allegations of corruption. They ordered him to pay the costs of the challenge to the owner of the shopping centre.

But Chernen’s concerns about a complicated Yaletown land swap deal were shared by Eby, then an Opposition MLA, who raised the issue in the legislature. Details about the deal were eventually released to the media, showing the private developer received a low interest-rate “bridge loan” from B.C. Housing so the developer could get started on a market condo tower after completing the social-housing portion of the project.

Chernen says the court cases were waged “for the public good.”

“I’m the most qualified to do this job,” he said. “People are very worried about me maybe raining on their parade because I’m going to be looking out for the people of this city, not the development industry.”

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
https://twitter.com/reutersLjungg/status/997266996659077121?s=19

:laffo:

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?

I doubt the CPP investment board would buy in once they review the returns. I wouldn't doubt they would fund it through the Infrastructure Bank though P3-style.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
The defense lawyer was Saheel Zaman who appears to own his own firm so I was wrong there. Is there anyway to tell if his lawyer arranged for him to testify or if he asked to go up himself or is that type of arrangement is usually kept private?

For the record here's the story about him taking the stand

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/accused-mail-bomber-takes-stand-denies-accusations-463942213.html?k=H3e7Yn

quote:

DNA evidence may have been "implanted" to implicate a 51-year-old autobody shop owner in a series of explosions targeting his ex-wife and local lawyers, the accused has testified.

Guido Amsel took the stand in his own defence Wednesday, offering the court a range of theories — from "innocent explanations" to unproven conspiracy allegations — that he said could explain why some of his DNA was found at the scenes of two explosions. Court has heard his DNA was extracted from a stain on a zippered pouch that was found in lawyer Maria Mitousis's law office after a bomb blast blew off her right hand in 2015.

"I have not sent explosives to anybody, anytime," Amsel said. He's pleaded not guilty to five counts of attempted murder, as well as aggravated assault, mischief and several explosives-related charges. He's accused of trying to kill his ex-wife and the lawyers who represented the couple in a lengthy civil lawsuit by mailing them bombs containing a homemade explosive.

During his full day on the stand, Amsel claimed his ex-wife was responsible for the bombings, he accused an RCMP officer of bribery and said he suspected his former defence lawyer, a Crown prosecutor, police and lab analysts of planting DNA evidence against him. He spoke about his ability to transfer his DNA via his sweaty hands, his habit of licking his fingers to flip pages and his regularly bleeding nose. During his testimony, Amsel pulled a napkin from his pocket and told the Crown prosecutor "I want you to see my blood."

He theorized his DNA could have ended up on the pouch — which police traced as being sold at Dollarama — during one of his near-weekly dollar store shopping trips with his kids. Or, he said, it could have found its way into Mitousis's office via the documents after he reviewed documents for the civil lawsuit his ex-wife, Iris Amsel, had brought against him. Mitousis was representing Iris, and Guido Amsel had spent time at her previous law firm, Monk Goodwin, going through 400 to 600 pages, he said. He didn't know whether the files he looked at were in Mitousis's new office at Petersen King on the morning of the July 3, 2015 explosion.

"I have proof that the DNA is fabricated," Amsel said during cross-examination questioning from Crown attorney Chris Vanderhooft. He repeatedly suggested his former defence lawyer, Martin Glazer, knew about the DNA match "way too early" before the tests had come back from the lab. But Amsel admitted he'd "made a mistake" in his initial belief that Glazer had cut out a section of the pouch to implant false evidence, later learning that analysts at the RCMP lab had removed a section of the pouch to test it. He held up photos of the pouch for the judge to see, saying the stain was visible in one photo but not the other.

Amsel also offered different explanations for how his DNA ended up on a piece of string found outside his ex-wife's home in the aftermath of a December 2013 explosion that damaged the front of her home, where Amsel had lived until shortly before the couple divorced. His DNA being found there only proves he lived there, he said, blaming his ex-wife.

"I had the assumption that Iris Amsel is behind it," he said.

Under questioning from his defence lawyer Saheel Zaman, Amsel said he didn't have knowledge of explosives, didn't plant a bomb at his ex-wife's home in 2013, didn't send a note with a voice recorder to lawyer Maria Mitousis and didn't recognize the handwriting on mailed packages that exploded.

"That's not my writing," he said.

Iris Amsel sued Guido to try to get him to pay her the $40,000 plus equipment costs he owed her after they dissolved their business partnership following their 2004 divorce, and Mitousis was representing her.

The accused said he suspected his ex-wife of stealing more than $4 million from their business, but he said when he reported his suspicions to the RCMP, the officer he spoke to held out his hand "like a cashier" asking for money in order to investigate, Amsel claimed. Sgt. Dan Bresciani previously testified he never asked Amsel for money. He said he decided there wasn't enough evidence to launch a fraud investigation, and Amsel later filed a public complaint to the RCMP, which he subsequently resolved. On Wednesday, the accused claimed he was forced to sign the complaint resolution form by RCMP officers who showed up at his business, "pushed a phone against my head," and made him listen to Sgt. Bresciani apologizing on the line. Vanderhooft noted Amsel's public complaint didn't mention a corrupt officer or bribery allegations.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Sep 9, 2022

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007


I haven't been paying too much attention to Canadian politics and was struggling to understand why Trudeau's govt is playing Weekend at Bernie's with a dead pipeline. I found this comment article useful:

GM posted:

Trudeau faces a potential political reckoning by going all-in on Trans Mountain pipeline
...
The PM’s pledge to advance both Canada’s resource economy and climate measures was seen by many as a facile way of pleasing everyone. It has turned out another way. Mr. Trudeau has been attacked on both sides and has found the middle increasingly hard to hold – yet, he’s still willing to take risks for it.
...
Public opinion suggests a similar conundrum: A Léger poll conducted earlier this month found 51 per cent think the government should intervene to support the Trans Mountain expansion, but only 30 per cent back the idea of putting public money into it.
...
Two years ago, Mr. Trudeau hammered out a “pan-Canadian” climate change framework with most premiers. Now, he’s coming down to one real ally: Alberta Premier Rachel Notley.

The defeat of former B.C. premier Christy Clark, and successor John Horgan’s opposition to TMX sparked the current drama. His biggest climate ally, Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne, is running third in an election campaign, amid discontent with her green-energy policies. If Doug Ford unseats her and Alberta United Conservative Leader Jason Kenney defeats Ms. Notley next May, Mr. Trudeau could be fighting a full-on federal-provincial carbon-tax war.
If his energy-environment bargain has already blown up, he’ll have a hard time.

IfWhen Ford and Kenney win their elections the climate change plan is going to be a major target, and Trudeau is trying to keep a doomed pipeline alive in an attempt to please oilsand supporters. IMO he's wasting his time, those people are absolutely going to vote for anyone promising to repeal the carbon tax anyway.

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Sep 9, 2022

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Reince Penis posted:

So I was doing a bit of schadenfreude research on the possibility of Doug Ford losing Etobicoke North and I found that Shafiq Qaadri, Liberal has doubled or more the Conservative vote in that riding in the last four elections going back to 2003.

In the 2015 federal election, Kristy Duncan (Liberal) received a staggering 62% of the vote to the Conservatives 23%.

Doug actually might lose his seat. :laugh:

If he loses his seat he's definitely running for mayor though. Watch out for that monkey's paw.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
LMAO. Who here has tickets to this shitshow?


odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Oh hey, I was just reading this about Peterson:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/18/style/jordan-peterson-12-rules-for-life.html

loving sick of seeing this guy brought up online.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

You would have to pay me to go to that.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

infernal machines posted:

LMAO. Who here has tickets to this shitshow?




I wish I could go tell at them but I have soccer tickets.

It's the kind of place I'd be proud to be ejected from.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



JPiss is coming to Winnipeg for his little tour too.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Reince Penis posted:

I wish I could go tell at them but I have soccer tickets.

It's the kind of place I'd be proud to be ejected from.

You don't think they'd eject you, right? What about your free speech? :rolleyes:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Reince Penis posted:

I wish I could go tell at them but I have soccer tickets.

It's the kind of place I'd be proud to be ejected from.

I will be a block away drinking heavily.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011
Jordan Peterson is definitely a virgin
https://twitter.com/calebecarma/status/997509866142011392?s=21

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Sadly he somehow has a loving wife

sitchensis
Mar 4, 2009

Why is the media bootlicking Peterson so much

Yellow Ant
Feb 28, 2016
Stephen Fry noooo. Is he a milkshake duck?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
I don't know what that means, but he is generally known as an rear end in a top hat in the finest British tradition.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Someone who the internet decided they loved, and then later discovered was a horrible person.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

sitchensis posted:

Why is the media bootlicking Peterson so much

Why does the media constantly publish sympathetic profiles of neo-Nazis?

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
What kind of sentence would he be looking at for 4 attempted murder charges and a host of stuff related to bomb-making?

Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 9, 2022

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost
God damnit I just got tricked into reading a J.J. McCullough article on WaPo.

It started good, then started getting worse and worse until I was like "waiiiiit a minute" and checked the byline.

Good opening hook though:

quote:

As is common among sheltered men of extreme privilege, when Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau attempts to share relatable thoughts on modern life, his words tend to expose a speaker who has no actual familiarity with social trends but has clearly been briefed to their existence.

I won't subject the thread to the full text but if anyone wants to read it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.0d4855999c61

SilverMike
Sep 17, 2007

TBD


Yellow Ant posted:

Stephen Fry noooo. Is he a milkshake duck?

Not quite as bad as that.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/stephen-fry-political-correctness-1.4662626

"I'm very, very... I won't say dreading, but I'm, hmm, somewhat tentative about this whole thing. I don't think Jordan Peterson is a man with whom I necessarily share an enormous amount of, you know…

But to me, that is the point. I wanted to appear with someone from a different side of the political spectrum, if you can put it that way, in order to express, as much as anything, just a sense of worry."

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brucio
Nov 22, 2004
That Jordan Peterson article is not bootlicking. He comes off as an idiots vision of a smart person.

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