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Maybe I've just been reading too much Paradise Lost recently but I could really go for a Bronze Age Mesopotamia game right about now. I know it's probably Rome, but if I can't have Vicky at least let me have this hope instead.
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May 19, 2018 03:50
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DrSunshine posted:As if the hint that "Norway isn't there" wasn't enough for people? I mean, seriously, that's a pretty obvious hint that it's not a game that takes place in the Victoria era since Norway existed during that time. norway didn't exist from 1815 to 1905 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_between_Sweden_and_Norway
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May 19, 2018 03:55
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Crazycryodude posted:Maybe I've just been reading too much Paradise Lost recently but I could really go for a Bronze Age Mesopotamia game right about now. I know it's probably Rome, but if I can't have Vicky at least let me have this hope instead. a great twist for the game would be for the last phase to be the bronze age collapse so you have to rapidly de-tech your city while your people die en-masse from starvation or get sent off to die pointlessly leaving your entire work a hollowed out shell decorated with magnificent buildings you know longer know how to build holding great scrolls no-one knows how to read.
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May 19, 2018 03:57
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"THIS IS [...] VICTORIA 3" - Johan
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May 19, 2018 04:30
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Raskolnikov38 posted:norway didn't exist from 1815 to 1905 Ah! You learn something new every day.
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May 19, 2018 04:32
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Agean90 posted:a great twist for the game would be for the last phase to be the bronze age collapse so you have to rapidly de-tech your city while your people die en-masse from starvation or get sent off to die pointlessly leaving your entire work a hollowed out shell decorated with magnificent buildings you know longer know how to build holding great scrolls no-one knows how to read. You know one thing that Paradox games have a hard time with, and strategy games in general really, is the decline of empires. Like no matter how big you get in say, CK2, the added complications of managing a large empire never actually become so great that you become unable to handle it unless you're a really new player. I guess the problem is that if you do have some kind of tipping point, players will eventually figure out exactly where it is and min-max to get the largest empire they possibly can without triggering the consequences. But it would be neat if there was some sort of system where as you grow larger you end up having to make major sacrifices to maintain your size, sacrifices that might ultimately doom you.
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May 19, 2018 04:46
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Paradox typically doesn't announced in-studio stuff until its close to release, right? Stellaris was subsequently released less than a year after being announced so they've stuck to that so far at least. Sindai fucked around with this message at 04:57 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 04:55
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As a dirty unwashed CKII European christian who usually spends a game forming a crusader empire, is Jade Dragon for me? I.e. am I missing out on not having it or would I just get pop ups every once in awhile saying "china loves you, now give me gold" or "china hates you, here, have this doomstack from off-map"?
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May 19, 2018 04:56
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OhGreatAGinger posted:As a dirty unwashed CKII European christian who usually spends a game forming a crusader empire, is Jade Dragon for me? Does your Crusader empire contain Jerusalem? They are on the Silk Road and thus will have access to interactions with China, although you probably won't be doing as much with them as you would in say, India or the Steppe, since you probably won't end up bordering the Western Protectorate.
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May 19, 2018 04:59
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Agean90 posted:a great twist for the game would be for the last phase to be the bronze age collapse so you have to rapidly de-tech your city while your people die en-masse from starvation or get sent off to die pointlessly leaving your entire work a hollowed out shell decorated with magnificent buildings you know longer know how to build holding great scrolls no-one knows how to read. to do that we would have to know what caused the bronze age collapse but all history's got for us is "i dunno lol, sea peoples?  "
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May 19, 2018 05:03
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The Cheshire Cat posted:You know one thing that Paradox games have a hard time with, and strategy games in general really, is the decline of empires. Like no matter how big you get in say, CK2, the added complications of managing a large empire never actually become so great that you become unable to handle it unless you're a really new player. This is why Vicky 2 is great. The thing it does best is imploding empires and if you get hosed hard enough there's nothing the player can do.
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Radio Free Kobold posted:to do that we would have to know what caused the bronze age collapse but all history's got for us is "i dunno lol, sea peoples?
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There are tons of ways you could do it. One of the great things about the Bronze Age and not knowing how half of it actually happened is that you can fudge it practically any way you like and spergs can’t flip out at you about it. I’ve been working on an antiquity mod for EU4 for a while now and when I first conceived it my plan was for it to be just that, starting in 1500 BCE with the onset of the unification of Egypt’s New Kingdom and then ending in cataclysmic Sea People invasions / breakdown of the Bronze Age trade routes / environmental catastrophe and so on a few hundred years later. It seems like a perfect way of getting around the normal Paradox lategame steamroller problem; a genuine existential external threat as well as issues that test the strength of the state you’ve been building up to its core. Then, as I researched more, I realized that sweet gently caress all is going on in the world beyond the Ancient Near East in that time and since I really wanted to incorporate some East Asia stuff into my mod that was probably not gonna work out unless I wanted 90% of the map to be empty, so I pushed my timeline forward 500 years. But if Paradox took on a more focused approach it could definitely be a really great setting. Alternatively Total War could do it. Or loving someone. The total lack of pre-Roman ancient world games is so mystifying to me, the ancient near east is such an amazingly evocative setting and the buildup leading into the eventual Bronze Age collapse is so perfect.
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May 19, 2018 06:08
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Drone posted:It's actually playable online for free via Archive.org (and is apparently legitimate) I always wanted tropico to be a bit more like this, as in actually remotely difficult to stay in power, like some middle point between "nearly impossible to fail" and "nearly impossible to survive"
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May 19, 2018 06:30
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OhGreatAGinger posted:As a dirty unwashed CKII European christian who usually spends a game forming a crusader empire, is Jade Dragon for me? Most of Jade Dragon's features aren't very relevant to Western Europe, but it DOES include a bunch of handy new CBs that make expansion less of a slog. Notably, "Border Dispute" is pretty much "Pay out prestige and cash, immediately go to war over neighboring county," for those times when fabricating claims is too much of a hassle.
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May 19, 2018 06:33
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Ill be at the conference today with my wife (who works at paradox). I have on jorts, a green canvas jacket, and bright yellow watch. If anyone wants to say hello!
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May 19, 2018 08:38
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Dirk Pitt posted:Ill be at the conference today with my wife (who works at paradox). I have on jorts, a green canvas jacket, and bright yellow watch. If anyone wants to say hello! There's a bunch of us here wearing red Mapgoons shirts, you can't miss us.
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Dirk Pitt posted:Ill be at the conference today with my wife (who works at paradox). I have on jorts, a green canvas jacket, and bright yellow watch. If anyone wants to say hello!
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May 19, 2018 09:31
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Agean90 posted:a great twist for the game would be for the last phase to be the bronze age collapse so you have to rapidly de-tech your city while your people die en-masse from starvation or get sent off to die pointlessly leaving your entire work a hollowed out shell decorated with magnificent buildings you know longer know how to build holding great scrolls no-one knows how to read. The game should spit out a 700s CK2 save that is 50% identical to the Charlemagne start but has a bunch of residual details (culture distribution, de jure kingdom names and shapes, artefacts, a couple of remaining kingdoms and duchies) from the end of your bronze age.
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May 19, 2018 09:37
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May 19, 2018 09:39
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I think I've managed to put myself at ease if it's not Vicky III. Yeah, sad, but if what's previewed looks good then hey, no worries.
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May 19, 2018 09:42
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Stellaris soundtrack as the stream goes live, so clearly they're announcing Stellaris 3 then.
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May 19, 2018 09:43
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About how many people are actually there? The convention area didn't look THAT huge from what few pictures I've seen so far. Gonna base my decision on whether or not I want to go next year on feedback from goons who went this year. Tickets are way expensive, on top of an already very expensive city. Drone fucked around with this message at 09:57 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 09:54
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canepazzo posted:Stellaris soundtrack as the stream goes live, so clearly they're announcing Stellaris 3 then. And they opened with "yes it really isn't V3" 
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Dirk Pitt posted:Ill be at the conference today with my wife (who works at paradox). I have on jorts, a green canvas jacket, and bright yellow watch. If anyone wants to say hello! hello
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May 19, 2018 10:00
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Gonna miss Fred Wester, I like that dude.
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It sucks that life got in the way and I couldn’t get to pdxcon this year
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May 19, 2018 10:05
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This Triumph game has an amazing aesthetic.
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May 19, 2018 10:12
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May 19, 2018 10:12
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it's 2:15 in the morning and apparently the Secret Announcement is in about an hour and fifteen minutes. Should I stay up to watch it live or just gently caress off to sleep now and catch all the infodump in the morning? Please help me make poor life choices.
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May 19, 2018 10:14
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^^^The announcement stream is on now. A new Age of Wonders game and Johan's new game coming next. On paper I should enjoy the gently caress out of AoW3 but it never grabs me when I play it. Tentatively optimistic for this one.
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May 19, 2018 10:15
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Plot twist: it's tabletop.
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May 19, 2018 10:18
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Victoria III as a tabletop game confirmed.
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May 19, 2018 10:18
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New board game division announced. Cities game by the designer of Nations Hearts of Iron board game Europe Universalis board game (come full circle there) Crusader Kings board game I think I'm more excited about this than Johan's new game. NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 10:24 on May 19, 2018 |
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May 19, 2018 10:20
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Not really a surprise, they've been talking about wanting to do this for years (and EU itself started with a board game). This kinda... can't be THE announcement though right...?
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May 19, 2018 10:20
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Victoria III as a tabletop game confirmed. Keeping track of your pops is gonna be a nightmare.
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May 19, 2018 10:20
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It's not Johan's announcement, these are all outsourced apparently.Vastakaiun posted:Keeping track of your pops is gonna be a nightmare. Ah, very true to the original.
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May 19, 2018 10:21
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Oh god for a minute there I thought that they were announcing a mobile game and that was the new game (I think the crowd did too since they went loving dead quiet for a second )
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Europa Universalis: the board game: the videogame: the board game.
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