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Skwirl posted:I wouldn't worry too much, Disney will probably buy Warner Brothers in the next decade and then the rights issues with a reprint will be a lot easier. You're probably right but by that logic, I should have waited 15 years for Miracle Man to get reprinted with a "The Original Author" credit or whatever, instead of tracking down the Eclipse trades.
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A Strange Aeon posted:You're probably right but by that logic, I should have waited 15 years for Miracle Man to get reprinted with a "The Original Author" credit or whatever, instead of tracking down the Eclipse trades. I wasn't saying don't track it down and read it, just that if it's too expensive now it might become cheaper in the future.
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May 20, 2018 23:10
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The Fox purchase isn't even confirmed and could quite possibly be nixed. It's very unlikely that Disney will ever own WB's assets in our lifetimes.
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May 20, 2018 23:13
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Rhyno posted:The Fox purchase isn't even confirmed and could quite possibly be nixed. It's very unlikely that Disney will ever own WB's assets in our lifetimes. Ahahaha.
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May 21, 2018 00:01
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Skwirl posted:Ahahaha.  I don't see it happening. Has WB even publicly said HEY WE'RE FOR SALE?
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May 21, 2018 03:48
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Rhyno posted:
Not yet, no. But you never know. As under strange eons even death may die.
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May 21, 2018 03:50
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There's a limit to which Disney would be indulged. Like I said, the Fox deal hasn't even begun and a lot of industry people seem to think it won't go through.
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May 21, 2018 03:54
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Listen, I have little faith in anything happening for two reasons: 1) Disney managed to make copyright law a loving orobos of poo poo that has stolen our own culture from us and 2) the current government is super pro-business and is run by a corrupt business man.
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May 21, 2018 03:59
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You say antitrust, but Mickey is the most trusted character in the world!
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May 21, 2018 04:32
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Rhyno posted:
Lucasfilms wasn't for sale until Disney bought them, same for Marvel (Bizarrely Marvel was for sale a decade or so earlier and no one bit).
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May 21, 2018 04:41
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Covok posted:Not yet, no. But you never know. And with strange aeons even death may die. Fixed that for you!
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May 21, 2018 04:50
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Covok posted:corrupt business man. You didn't need to repeat yourself.
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May 21, 2018 05:15
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I would've gone bananas trying to keep track of all the characters and outfits appearing during the fights of jla/avengers 4, so kudos to busiek and Perez Also, lol 
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May 21, 2018 08:23
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Skwirl posted:Lucasfilms wasn't for sale until Disney bought them, same for Marvel (Bizarrely Marvel was for sale a decade or so earlier and no one bit). Disney acquired Marvel in 2009. A decade earlier would have been 1999, right after they were coming out of bankruptcy? People bit because there was a battle to figure out who would acquire Marvel after Perelman ruined its financials, and people did in fact buy it. The idea that Marvel was less appealing an asset in 1999 after a decade of mismanagement than it would be in 2009 on the heels of a decade of blockbuster films based on their IP (and a self-produced second biggest film of 2008) doesn't seem that bizarre or surprising.
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May 21, 2018 14:00
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site posted:I would've gone bananas trying to keep track of all the characters and outfits appearing during the fights of jla/avengers 4, so kudos to busiek and Perez
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CapnAndy posted:From what I remember that was all Perez, who decided on his own that he was going to get every last Avenger or JLAer in, and every single one of their costumes at least once, because he knew he'd never get another chance at this and also he's insane enough to think it was possible in the first place. I think that's actually the result of some kind of curse put on Perez. Now he's compelled to draw gigantic images featuring as many characters as possible in as many different costumes as possible simultaneously.
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May 21, 2018 18:17
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Is Perez the one who gave The Wasp a different costume every issue?
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May 21, 2018 18:30
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Guy Goodbody posted:Is Perez the one who gave The Wasp a different costume every issue? Absolutely. He'd previously done an Avengers lithograph where he drew every Wasp to date as the border.
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May 21, 2018 19:12
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CapnAndy posted:From what I remember that was all Perez, who decided on his own that he was going to get every last Avenger or JLAer in, and every single one of their costumes at least once, because he knew he'd never get another chance at this and also he's insane enough to think it was possible in the first place. Didn't he hurt his hand doing the cover to JLA/Avengers #3? This one:  (I think my favourite bit is Blue Beetle hanging off Machine Man.)
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May 21, 2018 21:03
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He's hurt his hand quite a bit. His wife slammed it in the door of their car during JLA/A.
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May 21, 2018 21:43
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Wheat Loaf posted:Didn't he hurt his hand doing the cover to JLA/Avengers #3? Big Sir is in this. Lol
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Wheat Loaf posted:Didn't he hurt his hand doing the cover to JLA/Avengers #3? His drawing of the Sentry is outstanding.
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If it had just come out a couple of years later they could've included a scene where Sentry's fighting Triumph.
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site posted:I would've gone bananas trying to keep track of all the characters and outfits appearing during the fights of jla/avengers 4, so kudos to busiek and Perez They best part is they're punching out each other's nemeses.
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CapnAndy posted:From what I remember that was all Perez, who decided on his own that he was going to get every last Avenger or JLAer in, and every single one of their costumes at least once, because he knew he'd never get another chance at this and also he's insane enough to think it was possible in the first place. I don't know if Perez has some kind of dark past or anything but hearing stuff like this just makes me like him; he's a big nerd who jumped at the chance (with considerable effort on his part) to finally play with all the toys in the toybox.
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Edge & Christian posted:I'm not sure what your timeline is here? The time is not correct (I'm old enough now that I often forget how long ago the 90's were) but wasn't whoever the owner was at the time trying to sell off Marvel somewhere in the mid 90's, right after the comics crash? They ended up selling off movie rights to X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man and a whole bunch of other poo poo instead. My original point that when Marvel and Lucasfilm were bought by Disney, they weren't thought of as things being for sale is still true I think.
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Scaramouche posted:I don't know if Perez has some kind of dark past or anything but hearing stuff like this just makes me like him; he's a big nerd who jumped at the chance (with considerable effort on his part) to finally play with all the toys in the toybox. He'd been working at DC and Marvel for decades prior to JLA/A, it's not like it was his first run at the characters. Or even the project, he was working on an early version of the crossover many years before that was canceled after he finished 18 or so pages.
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Scaramouche posted:I don't know if Perez has some kind of dark past or anything but hearing stuff like this just makes me like him; he's a big nerd who jumped at the chance (with considerable effort on his part) to finally play with all the toys in the toybox. He directs superhero fetish work in his off-time but like, as far as I know it's on the level, one of the last issues of Wizard did an article about it
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May 22, 2018 03:23
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He's also up front about how much porn commission he does. It's a lot.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:He directs superhero fetish work in his off-time but like, as far as I know it's on the level, one of the last issues of Wizard did an article about it Rhyno posted:He's also up front about how much porn commission he does. Joe Shuster drew bondage porn, which is especially amazing since he didn't have a lot of range in faces and hairstyles, so it all looks like Lois Lane having kinky sex with Clark Kent.
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Skwirl posted:The time is not correct (I'm old enough now that I often forget how long ago the 90's were) but wasn't whoever the owner was at the time trying to sell off Marvel somewhere in the mid 90's, right after the comics crash? They ended up selling off movie rights to X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man and a whole bunch of other poo poo instead. As for the timeline of Marvel in the 1990s, there are a ton of moving parts; you've got it half right with the movie options, but a lot of those were sold before a cascade of crashes that led Marvel into bankruptcy and were done less as a fire sale and more as part of Ron Perelman's shitbag vulture capitalism with the idea that they can slap a few million dollars in (one-sided) movie options onto the ledger in the quarters before he sold the company to make it look like they're swimming in money and then sell the company and the new owners have to deal with how they'd basically make no money off of the X-Men and Spider-Man movies assuming they ever got made and earned money, which was definitely an open question circa 1995 or whatever. Under Perelman after Marvel went public in 1992, Marvel bought two trading card companies, a sticker company, Malibu Comics, a comics distributor, Panini, and struck a deal with Toy Biz's Ike Perlmutter where Marvel would own half of Toy Biz in return for permanent royalty-free license to make all Marvel toys, even though Toy Biz essentially only was making Marvel Toys. It was during this period (before the bankruptcy hammer fell) that Perelman was selling off extremely one-sided movie options like hotcakes because again, they looked great on the quarterly reports just like expanding your market share by buying Malibu or buying a baseball card company and imagining that baseball card revenue will continue to rise throughout the decade and not collapse thanks to speculator fatigue AND the 1994 baseball strike. The combination of the card market collapsing, the comics market starting to collapse, Heroes World being a terrible idea, a shitload of debt from all those acquisitions, and the Toy Biz deal not being the bonanza it was sold as meant that all of this short term grifting caught up to Perelman before he could sell the bloated corpse. But the fire sale on movie options was a feature, not a bug.
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Mr Hootington posted:Big Sir is in this. Lol Everyone who had been on any Justice League or Avengers team ever to that point is on that cover. So Justice League Antarctica is on there. So are the Great Lake Avengers. All of the Guardians of the Galaxy are in there because they got referred to as future Avengers. Perez included Power Girls cat.
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Skwirl posted:Joe Shuster drew bondage porn, which is especially amazing since he didn't have a lot of range in faces and hairstyles, so it all looks like Lois Lane having kinky sex with Clark Kent. I guess there's no chance of well-known comic artists' private commissions ever seeing the light of day in a published volume? I think it'd be kind of fascinating--just imagine seeing footless Liefeld porn between the 90s Image heroes.
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A Strange Aeon posted:I guess there's no chance of well-known comic artists' private commissions ever seeing the light of day in a published volume? I think it'd be kind of fascinating--just imagine seeing footless Liefeld porn between the 90s Image heroes. It's unlikely given the nature of them, but Adam Warren's superhero bondage porn commissions were used to kick of Empowered and consequentially some of them are in the first volume.
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A Strange Aeon posted:I guess there's no chance of well-known comic artists' private commissions ever seeing the light of day in a published volume? I think it'd be kind of fascinating--just imagine seeing footless Liefeld porn between the 90s Image heroes. Jeff and Phil Moy (who came to fame drawing Legionnaires in the mid 90's) have pretty much retired from regular comics and make a living drawing porn commissions.
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A Strange Aeon posted:I guess there's no chance of well-known comic artists' private commissions ever seeing the light of day in a published volume? I think it'd be kind of fascinating--just imagine seeing footless Liefeld porn between the 90s Image heroes. I don't think it's any stuff from people's private collections or anything, but you can get a Bruce Timm naughty art book. e: And there's a book of that Joe Shuster erotica stuff. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:40 on May 22, 2018 |
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I don't have an issue with people drawing or living off porn stuff, as long as it's not like, pokemon porn or whatever. But you can definitely be a dick about drawing porn, like Frank Cho. And some dudes like Bruce Timm kinda let their kinks seep into their regular work a bit, which can certainly be criticized.
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Lmao I love searching the Facebook marketplace for comics. These people trying to sell stuff greatly over-estimate the value of their books. There is a guy that is selling Infinity Gauntlet/War/Crusade and wants $500 for it. I can't stop laughing.
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Is it at least the big box set? That was originally $500.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Is it at least the big box set? That was originally $500. It's single issues. Doesn't have any of the Silver Surfer tie-ins that are worth more money.
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