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Pirate Radar posted:The way planets work right now is just boring, tbh. Build the buildings that the tiles tell you to and then don’t look at the planet again for the rest of the game. Also: go through all your planets ever time you get a new building to upgrade them all. I'm looking forward to the tile replacement that wiz teased, gonna be good.
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I think the game would work fine with a SotS Plus model - every planet just provides a set ratio of resources per pop. You also get an EU style option to build things like planetary shields or mutually exclusive choices of administrative bonuses.
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Groogy posted:There were more adjacency bonuses at launch but people didn't like them from what I can recall? Some Tomb World blockers had adjacency bonuses at launch, and blockers from primitives if you chose that option when colonizing a primitive planet. That last one might have actually been pre-sentients, I don't remember. They were very powerful, and better than actually having a pop working the tile unless they only had one non-blocked adjacent tile. I remember primitives especially giving insane amounts of society research, making planets with them incredibly valuable. Demiurge4 posted:I think the reason was that they were too strong. Mines would boost adjacent mines and so players would ignore tiles and just put mines on every tile. I think you're thinking of mineral silos. IIRC they used to give +1 mineral adjacency at level 1 and 2, and +2 at level 3. So you made a checkerboard patter of mines and silos, with the central silos giving +8 base minerals total, and still +4 in the corners. Silos had zero maintenance so this was extremely efficient, even without taking into account increasing the mineral cap. Then they were reduced to +1 at all levels and made planet unique, I think, before finally being changed into a starbase building in 2.0. I think the capital buildings and silos are the only buildings that have ever had adjacency bonuses, though I've heard there were a bunch in development.
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Actually building a bunch of buildings on planets in games where you should be able to control three digit numbers of them is wasteful and it'd be better off as moo1 style sliders.
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May 23, 2018 12:05
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Panzeh posted:sliders 
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I think my PC would scream in terror if I had a triple digit number of planets just from all the pops it would have to keep track of.
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Panzeh posted:Actually building a bunch of buildings on planets in games where you should be able to control three digit numbers of them is wasteful and it'd be better off as moo1 style sliders. This. Good lord, so much this. The goddamn ruler of space doesn't give two shits about the type of factory the governor is faffing about with building - he/she/it just wants the planet to produce a certain amount of industrial output (minerals), or a certain amount of research, or some combination of the two.
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I'd like a new planet system to allow and encourage specialization. I want multiple farm worlds feeding my Trantor style mega city and stuff.
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May 23, 2018 16:07
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Klingon w Bowl Cut posted:I was the only goon who stuck around for the Saturday party and karaoke. It owned, even if the fact that my song never came up while some jerks got to go two or three times has torn away my ability to feel human. I didnt get to sing either.. too long queue, and I even tried to pull rank
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May 23, 2018 18:00
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You rocked that Toga. One word, gravitas. I'm properly hyped about Rome 2!
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yeah that announcement was really cool
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PORTUGAL BEGONE
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AppleDan posted:PORTUGAL BEGONE Côte d'Ivoire, the soft underbelly of the Mali empire 
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Mans posted:Côte d'Ivoire, the soft underbelly of the Mali empire With Aragon beating the poo poo out Castille that poo poo'll be mine TOO
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pdxjohan posted:I didnt get to sing either.. too long queue, and I even tried to pull rank Pooned posted:You rocked that Toga. One word, gravitas. I'm properly hyped about Rome 2! Agreed, even though I didn't get to see the announcement I saw toga screenshots and the game looks pretty neat so far. Dev diaries when?? The Stellaris DLC surprise-dropping this week was cool too.
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May 23, 2018 22:30
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I for one can't wait for my favorite tubers to start let's playing Rome 2.
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Poil posted:I for one can't wait for my favorite tubers to start let's playing Rome 2. We need to recreate the Crete LP. It's only proper  populists! 
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I forgot to ask Johann at the time, but they'd better be populists in this version...
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pdxjohan posted:I didnt get to sing either.. too long queue, and I even tried to pull rank A good announcement for rome 2. The bard clue instantaneously made sense
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May 23, 2018 23:17
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The map is growing. Tribes now spotted in Britain, northern Germany, Scandinavia and the Ukraine. And the Zoom! Sweet mother of God, the Zoom! Skip tp 4:09 unless you know German https://youtu.be/Esf9xZW8HN8
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axeil posted:We need to recreate the Crete LP. It's only proper Twitch plays Rome 2
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gradenko_2000 posted:Twitch plays Rome 2 Twitch plays crusader kings.
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I don't know how the tile overhaul in Stellaris work out, but I'm a bit apprehensive. For example I don't care about my planets in Endless Space at all. They are all the same abstracted places. and I usually build nearly the same buildings in the same order. Stellaris tiles are more engaging, and I do enjoy building up big planets or planets with unusually many good tile bonuses. But Wiz has often proven to be right in game redesigns, so I trust him for now.
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Pharohman777 posted:Twitch plays crusader kings. Twitch Plays Aurora 4X
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How about a Stellaris crossover DLCwith Imperator. Aliens are running amok, playing Mesopotamian God King, or just kidnapping people and doing crazy experiments.
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The Narrator posted:I was thinking about the EU: Rome model, but now that I'm reading back on it, it did go into further depth with characters than I thought it did, and you're right that the CK2 adventurer system would be perfect. The only gap I can think of is that in Imperator you're playing as an EU4-style "spirit of the nation" guiding things along, whereas in CK2 you're a specific person, and adventurers in CK2 are characters without land or other responsibilities, aren't they (it's been a while)?. So suddenly temporarily losing a big army because their general decided he was going to take a jaunt to Gaul could be frustrating, if indeed historically accurate. EU:Rome already basically had an adventurer system with the barbarian hordes. Depending on your views of Populists, the barbarian hordes were either the worst or second worst thing about EU:Rome. The Populists were bad because they effectively took control out of the players hands. So yeah, that whole independent generals doesn't really address the problems of EU:Rome at all, and instead suggests that they make things worse.
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What's the deal with the latest Stellaris update getting downvoted because it lacks Chinese localization? I saw someone referring to Russia's Baltic suppression as a similar reference to what they are experiencing at the hands of Paradox.
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Stellaris used to have an incomplete Chinese localisation that could be enabled with a mod (it was never able to be selected normally). It was removed recently. I have no idea what's stopping them from just grabbing the files from an old version into a new mod.
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e: Double posted somehow, might have double clicked the button really quickly maybe? My mouse has been doing that lately.
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I enjoyed the Stellaris planet tile system and liked buildings that provided adjecency bonuses. That said, if planet management could be reworked to be it's own minigame, I would enjoy that even more. My fear is it being scrapped entirely--to me, the planet surfaces give the universe life and the galaxy would be wholly depopulated without them. Unrelated to Stellaris: The nations font on the the Imperator: Rome map feels too "big", it seems to be filling up the entire countries. I know it's early, so I also hope they dress it up just a little too (EU4's outlined serifs were nice). That being said, I really like the ocean/sea font.
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ExtraNoise posted:I enjoyed the Stellaris planet tile system and liked buildings that provided adjecency bonuses. That said, if planet management could be reworked to be it's own minigame, I would enjoy that even more. My fear is it being scrapped entirely--to me, the planet surfaces give the universe life and the galaxy would be wholly depopulated without them. Personally I love the zoom and the rotatable camera. I have been wanting that since CK2. Of course, I know that I can zoom, but not being able to permanently rotate is probably what prevents me from doing that too much.
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One of the tricks that was missed (but would have been *very* difficult to pull off) would be to go hard sci-fi on the premise and use that to draw distinctions. ie. 'this species evolved from birds, which makes them exceptionally good at 3d thinking and space combat tactics. the downside is their bones are light so they can only pull 2g's of acceleration'
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Alchenar posted:One of the tricks that was missed (but would have been *very* difficult to pull off) would be to go hard sci-fi on the premise and use that to draw distinctions. I could see making these opt-in, like each phenotype has some unique traits they can take. 'Hollow boned', 'Cold blooded', 'Spores', 'Night vision', etc etc. So your birds don't have to have light bones, but its an option for extra trait points that mammals don't get to pick.
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I enjoy Roman history but know next to nothing about the details. Are there any good books to read on the subject that aren't college textbooks? (Or maybe ones that are?)
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ExtraNoise posted:I enjoy Roman history but know next to nothing about the details. Are there any good books to read on the subject that aren't college textbooks? (Or maybe ones that are?) https://thehistoryofrome.typepad.com/
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ExtraNoise posted:I enjoy Roman history but know next to nothing about the details. Are there any good books to read on the subject that aren't college textbooks? (Or maybe ones that are?) I recommend anything by Adrian Goldsworthy. It's easy enough to get your hands on his books, and I don't think they're too "difficult" to read.
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ExtraNoise posted:I enjoy Roman history but know next to nothing about the details. Are there any good books to read on the subject that aren't college textbooks? (Or maybe ones that are?) Your best bet is Mary Beard's SPQR. She's a great writer and it's on the academic cutting edge. Adrian Goldsworthy is good, but he can get a little crankish on some things. His history of Rome's decline is still probably the best chronological history of the late empire. But yeah, i would say Beard first
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ExtraNoise posted:I enjoy Roman history but know next to nothing about the details. Are there any good books to read on the subject that aren't college textbooks? (Or maybe ones that are?) You could read Gibbon if you really wanted to, his fanatical hatred of Turks can be entertaining but it's a bit of a slog and can be hard to follow. For something easier, Mary Beard's SPQR is a fun read and Mike Duncan's History of Rome podcast and his book The Storm Before the Storm are both easy to listen to/read. I'd also echo the Goldsworthy recommendation, I really enjoyed his Caesar but haven't read anything else he's written. Lastly, Caesar's commentaries are actually really easy to read and very enjoyable.
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