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Wheat Loaf posted:I believe "Han Solo origin movie" was something Lucas asked Kasdan to draft a screenplay for years before he sold Lucasfilm to Disney. Not a few years, but a few months before the purchase. And from what I understand from interviews with his son, Kasdan essentially handed over writing the script to his son once Kasdan Sr. got asked to re-rewrite the TFA script. Back in 2008, I remember some interview where Lucas had considered doing an old Han Solo movie instead of Indy 4, but I assume Ford probably put a halt to that.
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Erotic Wakes posted:Television is getting a show about Alfred Pennyworth's adventures before working for the Waynes. Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Oh good, I hope it's the oafish private eye Alfred or the dour legacy footman Alfred, since the awesome SAS pugilist Alfred from Gotham is too good to sully with a lovely show where he would inevitably run into even younger versions of Batman villains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9WhJyyTtqo
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May 24, 2018 19:01
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Ah, but what if you came up with an entirely original structure for your story? Then the criticism simply becomes that your film is 'plotless/just a bunch of things that happen but don't go anywhere/isn't developed properly/doesn't establish character/whatever.' We know that we get tired of convention, but we also desire convention as an essential means of identifying with and investing in the symbolic order of a film. But instead of accepting this inherent contradiction and focusing on criticizing specific aspects of form and narrative, we blame mediocrity on filmmakers being lazy/out of touch, vaguely hand-waving at some other kind of better condition we could have if certain superficial memes were followed.
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May 24, 2018 19:08
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Well, I guess I'm watching Teen Titans GO! now.
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May 24, 2018 19:13
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Wheat Loaf posted:Why has Marvel managed to have 20 movies out in 10 years without an obvious lapse in interest when Star Wars has had four movies out in as many years (which, whether you mean it positively or negatively, are probably of about comparable quality to the Marvel movies) and it's the one that has people hemming and hawing about over-saturation? Interesting question. Personally, I think that Marvel movies allow more of a varied landscape and genre mix than grim space opera, which has been the consistent tone prevalent in the modern Star Wars canon. Kennedy also seems more hands on regarding directors/writers (the clusterfuck in Solo, Abrams stepping in for Treverrow in IX) than Feige has been other than on Iron Man 2 and Ant-Man, the first possibly an artifact of the Perlmutter era, the second which doomed the movie but hasn't been repeated since. Having the same handful of folks writing all the movies doesn't exactly help either, Kasdan is great but he's also old and set in his ways as hell. The Star War movies have also been more of a drag than the Marvel movies. Muted, both in tones and substance, purposefully challenging and disappointing its core audience. And lastly the Star War movies probably have never gotten as close to hitting all the demographic quotients as the Marvel movies have done. They've just not been as widely popular, no matter how much the mania regarding it in the late 90s made it seem. Force Awakens is one of the most popular movies of all time. But I'd love to see how that population of movie goers end up with men v. women, whites v. minorities, etc.
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May 24, 2018 19:15
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K. Waste posted:Then the criticism simply becomes that your film is 'plotless/just a bunch of things that happen but don't go anywhere/isn't developed properly/doesn't establish character/whatever.' On a scale of 1-10 how badly do you wanna use the word dialetic?
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May 24, 2018 19:20
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Shageletic posted:On a scale of 1-10 how badly do you wanna use the word dialetic? Probably 0 because the word is dialectic
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May 24, 2018 19:22
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ALFbrot posted:Probably 0 because the word is dialectic kinda proud of that.
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May 24, 2018 19:24
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Oh good, I hope it's the oafish private eye Alfred or the dour legacy footman Alfred, since the awesome SAS pugilist Alfred from Gotham is too good to sully with a lovely show where he would inevitably run into even younger versions of Batman villains. Instead have him fight old-school villains, like The Mist or any other Star Man/Sandman/JSA bad guy. Edit: The Gentleman Ghost! Etrigan!
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May 24, 2018 19:28
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Iron Crowned posted:That movie sucked for a lot of reasons, I'm pretty sure that the characters being "too different" is really low on the scale things He's right for once though, Genisys was good.
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May 24, 2018 19:28
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Well, I guess I'm watching Teen Titans GO! now. teen titans go to the movies is going to be the best superhero movie of 2018
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May 24, 2018 19:37
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Brother Entropy posted:teen titans go to the movies is going to be the best superhero movie of 2018 It'll be either that or Incredibles 2.
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May 24, 2018 20:01
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May 24, 2018 23:44
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We really are going to get a new goddamn Star War every year until the heat death of the universe.
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May 24, 2018 23:45
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I can’t do it anymore. I have lost the capacity to Star Wars.
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May 24, 2018 23:45
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I'm pretty sure that literally happened in ROTJ.
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May 24, 2018 23:48
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Well, at least they got somebody good. The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy from the 90s is goofy as gently caress, they should take a lot of inspiration from that. Lizard Dance
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May 25, 2018 00:06
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Pirate Jet posted:I can’t do it anymore. I have lost the capacity to Star Wars. Would you say that you are just so tired, of all these star wars?
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May 25, 2018 00:13
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For gently caress's sake. Maybe it's just that I'm 31, but I cannot care about any more Star Wars movies. TLJ was the first one I didn't get around to watching in the cinema, but I have a feeling it won't be the last. When they first announced the new ones, I was hoping they'd do something completely different, honouring the pulp origins of Star Wars and just doing something completely new, like fighting a crime empire or some new enemy that's alien even to this universe. Instead they're heading into territory where they're just remixing, inverting and commenting on the original films, but doing it worse than LOGH did back in the 80s. gently caress, LOGH is so good. It starts from 'what if the war between the Galactic Empire and Rebel Alliance calcified for 400 years?' and is just loving fantastic. It is what Game of Thrones fans insist Game of Thrones is.
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May 25, 2018 00:15
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Well, I guess I'm watching Teen Titans GO! now. TTG is great because of its contempt for its peers, fans, and the entire concept of superheroes and cartoons in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kX16v-jdOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk5kIKKtdZU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFgs18qh1Yg
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May 25, 2018 00:18
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Okay is it nostalgia or did the DC cartoons of the late 90s/early 00's pull off a shared universe really well and actually we're fun shows to watch while Marvel's were hit or miss and all over the place? And how did they just do so very bad at recreating that for movies?
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May 25, 2018 00:26
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It's really weird to me because the original trilogy are still my all-time favorite movies and I legitimately loved The Force Awakens and Rogue One, but just within the last 6 or 7 months (ever since I saw The Last Jedi the first time), any enthusiasm I had for Star Wars died. I'm not excited to see what happens in Episode 9, I'm not excited to see Solo, I'm not excited for a standalone Boba Fett movie, I'm not excited to play any future Battlefront games, etc. I genuinely thought the property was in good hands with Disney because those first couple years seemed so strong, but now it's like all that positive momentum they'd built up around the Star Wars name (which hadn't had it for a while because of the prequels and Special Editions and all that poo poo) is gone. I wish they'd just bury it again because it feels like they've been reanimating a corpse over and over again but not keeping its soul intact, but I suppose it makes them far too much money to quit while they're behind.
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May 25, 2018 00:26
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This will only be good if they went with the attached casting of Michael B. Jordan (announced a couple of years ago, before he blew up) and it's a Dread Pirate Roberts scenario where Jordan finds Fett's armor and becomes Boba Fett (also rumored to be the script).
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May 25, 2018 00:36
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Len posted:Okay is it nostalgia or did the DC cartoons of the late 90s/early 00's pull off a shared universe really well and actually we're fun shows to watch while Marvel's were hit or miss and all over the place? they didn't fire Bruce Timm and Paul Dini in the middle of production
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May 25, 2018 00:41
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I have to admit a lot of the entertainment I get from the current star wars movies is jaded old nerds falling over themselves on the internet to constantly post about how over star wars they are.
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May 25, 2018 00:51
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Young Freud posted:This will only be good if they went with the attached casting of Michael B. Jordan (announced a couple of years ago, before he blew up) and it's a Dread Pirate Roberts scenario where Jordan finds Fett's armor and becomes Boba Fett (also rumored to be the script). The wailing and gnashing of teeth from nerds would be worth it.
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May 25, 2018 00:55
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Finally, a story exploring the origins of the galaxy’s greatest bounty hunter who was killed by a monster sand vagina when a blind man accidentally booped his backpack.
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May 25, 2018 01:07
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boba fett sucks like most star wars characters
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Low Desert Punk posted:boba fett sucks like most star wars characters yes but you see in the extended universe
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Fart City posted:Finally, a story exploring the origins of the galaxy’s greatest bounty hunter who was killed by a monster sand vagina when a blind man accidentally booped his backpack. I can't imagine what possible could have shaped him into becoming the bad-rear end that he was, but it most have been rad as all hell! 
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May 25, 2018 02:20
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Lol we literally have an origin story for him. It wasn’t good but that hasn’t stopped Disney before
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May 25, 2018 02:21
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CharlestheHammer posted:Lol we literally have an origin story for him. That tweet doesnt call it an origin story and theres a lot of time between ep 2 and ep 6 they can have him be a bounty hunter during.
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May 25, 2018 02:23
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Len posted:That tweet doesnt call it an origin story and theres a lot of time between ep 2 and ep 6 they can have him be a bounty hunter during. Lol if you don’t think he will get his suit or something over the movie
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May 25, 2018 02:25
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CharlestheHammer posted:Lol if you don’t think he will get his suit or something over the movie Isn't that Jango's suit? He's already wearing Mandalorian armor when he was bounty hunting with Bossk and Aurra Sing before Episode 3.
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The MSJ posted:Isn't that Jango's suit? He's already wearing Mandalorian armor when he was bounty hunting with Bossk and Aurra Sing before Episode 3. I mean i would assume he got the armor right after he took his dead fathers body out of it. But this is the new universe so who knows. But lol this movie thats nothing more than a tweet is already poo poo and bad 
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May 25, 2018 02:36
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Fart City posted:Finally, a story exploring the origins of the galaxy’s greatest bounty hunter who was killed by a monster sand vagina when a blind man accidentally booped his backpack. That's exactly why Boba Fett was great. He was basically the original trilogy's version of Luke punking Rey at the beginning of The Last Jedi after an entire movie of buildup to that moment.
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The MSJ posted:Isn't that Jango's suit? He's already wearing Mandalorian armor when he was bounty hunting with Bossk and Aurra Sing before Episode 3. It doesn’t happen on screen so there is wiggle room
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May 25, 2018 02:52
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I hope it's a low stakes story about a bounty hunter hunting some bounties.
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May 25, 2018 02:56
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The MSJ posted:Aurra Sing I think the only reason I know who Bossk is is because he was in some Star Wars video game. I don't even remember which one. I know he's in Empire and Return of the Jedi, but he isn't mentioned by name in those movies, is he?
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